Giovanni Strongholds secret tunnel system?

Cassten · Post by **Cassten** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:35 pm

Is there really something like that at the Giovanni Stronghold? I searched a while for it outside but could not find it. Just asking because if it does exist there may be some items in there that I would miss out on otherwise.

EDIT: Also I really ain't able to find the Dodge II book ANYWHERE in the stronghold...

yrthwyndandfyre · Post by **yrthwyndandfyre** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:14 pm

[QUOTE=Cassten]Is there really something like that at the Giovanni Stronghold? I searched a while for it outside but could not find it. Just asking because if it does exist there may be some items in there that I would miss out on otherwise.

EDIT: Also I really ain't able to find the Dodge II book ANYWHERE in the stronghold...[/QUOTE]
I don't think Dodge II is in the Giovanni Mansion - just the Voce del Morte and a whack of vampires, zombies, and Kuei-Jin.

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:45 pm

Dodge II (ie 4 or 5 level) traing is in the SAME room as the door to the tunnels, proabaly why you have found neither.

As you enter the main room (where all the peeps are) it is the door on the right, near Hot Young School girl, err where was I?
Oh yeah the room, has a sword on the right wall which activates the door.

Cassten · Post by **Cassten** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:46 pm

Yes I found the room but in the guide of this page it is stated that you should be able to use the tunnels to enter the Stronghold. I did some browsing and found this;

Unoffical Vampire Bloodlins patch v1.8

- Added the missing Dodge II manual to second Giovanni Mansion level.

...I guess that is why I can't find it.

Also is there a way to still finish the "poster" quest from Gary once you've recieved your new haven? I putthe Horror Tape Part 2 into my mailbox in the Santa Monica apartment but it was still there once I reentered.

Acleacius · Post by **Acleacius** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:09 pm

Take the tape out and try it in your new Haven.
Were did you read Gary's email?
Make sure the tape is for the correct quest.

You can just, giftxp yourself 12 points and add to Dodge or give yourself the book.

Confuzzled · Post by **Confuzzled** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:17 am

The Dodge manual is in the Giovanni study, along with the entrance to the tunnels/catacombs. I'm running the 1.2 patch, and it has always been there. So unless a later patch took it away again...

If memory serves it is on the desk, surrounded by other books, so unless you have high Inspection, you need to scan around a little to spot it.

Lestat · Post by **Lestat** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:39 am

I don't know of a secret tunnel system, but there is a secret corridor on each side of the passage from the entrance hall to the main hall. You need a quite high inspection feat to discover them, but you can also use it if you don't have it (so once you know where it is, you just need to click the use button on the location even if there is no icon showing up). Through the one on your right (as you enter) you can get to the study. There are also one way windows/mirrors that look into the main hall and some other rooms.

The manual Dodge II is indeed in the study.

Ghoulem · Post by **Ghoulem** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:55 pm

I guess by Giovanni secret tunnel system he means the one behind the bookcase in the study?

Is there any point in the hollow walls except for Clan Nosferatu?

Lestat · Post by **Lestat** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:16 pm

[QUOTE=Ghoulem]Is there any point in the hollow walls except for Clan Nosferatu?[/QUOTE]Yes.
Since you'd need a high Persuasion (or Seduction) to have the girl (forgot her name) to show you the way, the hollow walls are a good way to go without fighting for a non-social character with moderate combate ability.