Unofficial Patch 1.7
Check out the unofficial 1.7 patch for Bloodlines. It fixes many bugs with the game. It requires the 1.2 patch.
[quote="unofficial patch]
1.7
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Restored original models for the low and high grade computer tomes.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade instead of taking it from Chastity.
Corrected wrong name of the cafe and other locations and map names.
Provided 1 xp for keeping Zhao alive and modified quest accordingly.
Fixed feat conditions in Muddy bum dialogue and a missing variable.
Awarded 1 xp for killing Bruno Giovanni and changed log accordingly.
Corrected wrong subtitles speaker name for Vandal and other people.
Restored many mistyped intimidate options and some answers to Pisha.
1.6
All dialogues were spell checked. Several mistyped variables found could provide additional dialogue.
Corrected still not working Hitman quest fix and other related bugs.
Fixed variables in texts of Ash"]
Unofficial Patch 1.4
I'll paste the pertinent part of the readme from the patch. As far as I can tell, it's unofficial because Troika is, as you know, defunct and has stopped work on the game. It seems very worthwhile, though.
[QUOTE=Unofficial Patch Readme]
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines unofficial patch 1.4
---------------------------------------------------------
This is an unofficial patch for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
by Troika Games. It is based on Dan Upright's great unofficial oma
Vampire Patch 1.2 whose readme is included with minor corrections.
Extract the archive into your game folder keeping the directory
structure intact and back up all overwritten files if you want to
remove it later.
This patch attempts to fix many bugs, but no guarantees are made,
since we haven't had time to test them all. It can be installed on
top of the official 1.2 patch from Troika Games without problems.
Confirmations of fixes marked with a "*" would be nice, also reports
of any other problems, glitches or non-crashing bugs we have missed
up until now.
Not done (impossible?):
-----------------------
Giovanni can be heard speaking when he isn't in the room anymore.
The news report a bloodbath even if you just sneak-killed Johnny.
There is a door in the Santa Monica hospital with lockpicking 11.
In Gary's lair you have to jump over the furniture to move along.
v1.4
----
Repaired SWAT rifle crosshair and set damage similar to 'Jamie Sue'.
Made rifles and crossbows use single shots to fit reload animation.
Barabus will not be in the Fu Syndicate anymore after you have left.
Removed illogical placed flamethrower and Ra blade from Hollowbrook.
Chastity will have the Ra blade and a crossbow can be found nearby.
Put flaming crossbow, torch and flamethrower at the Leopold Society.
Changed damage of blunt weapons to fists < arm < baton < bat < iron.
Made CD quest available to all clans as Malkavian lines were there.
Fixed Tawni and friend noticing you before accepting Imalia's quest.
Made vendors sell crossbow bolts with Tseng selling a crossbow too.
Imalia's magazine quest is now also available after her Tawni quest.
v1.3
----
After providing Romero with a sexy night he will give you his rifle.
Removed Dan's "Ginger Swan fix", because the quest was not updated.
Isaac-Tzimisce dialogue line will disappear after quest is complete.
Changed the inventory text of Jamie Sue, Bach's rifle and Steyr Aug.
Corrected some subtitles so the Hengeyokai surprise is not spoiled.
Changed lots of subtitles so not every thug is called a Sabbat thug.
Edited quest log texts of Necromantic to prevent misunderstandings.
Corrected Isaac dialogue options so you can't get the gift right on.
Changed the strange "untie" lines in the Johansen dialogue options.
Provided 2 xp for rescueing Ash from the Society of Leopold caverns.
Made Bach drop rifle or sword on defeat, may remove teleport light.
Removed Yukies untakeble sword and changed the dialogue accordingly.
Modified some dialogue of Wong Ho in regard to the white haired man.
Wong Ho and hostess will not be in the Red Dragon after he is gone.
The White Cloud doors in Chinatown will be open from the beginning.
Yukie will not appear before you visited the temple to fit her talk.
The Hollowbrook Hotel cutscene will only happen if Heather is alive.
v1.2
-----
fixed an indentation error in warrens.py that was causing scripts to
stop working
v1.1
-----
included romero's dialogue file, so the fix from v1.0 stands a
better chance of working this time around
v1.0
-----
patch now automated (and merged with leopatch) -> undone
prince/beckett cutscene fix is back in
fixed a typo in beckett's dialogue that was breaking an auto-link
(thanks to doug thompson)
fixed beckett's dialogue trailing off as you're teleported into the
ventrue lobby*
fixed romero locking up if you're a woman, you flirted with him and
completed the zombie quest*
fixed imalia's newspaper from appearing when you fail the tawni
quest*
fixed the society of leopold crash with style and grace (meaning all
clans should now transition unbugged to the correct landmark in la)
undid a previous mess i'd made of gary's poster quests - should work
as originally intended now
v0.9
-----
fixed beckett trying to increase your scholarship when it's already
at max (thanks to Executor for this and the similar fix in v0.8)*
updated fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.3.rar)
v0.8
-----
removed the prince/beckett cutscene fix until a reported bug is
confirmed/fixed
placed the sound file for a line of isaac's dialogue in the correct
directory (had been incorrect since v0.1)
fixed beckett trying to increase your inspection feat and failing -
now increases investigation instead*
v0.7
-----
hunters won't spawn if the courier is behind the fast buck in
hollywood - should stop people being killed during this cutscene
the highlight for imalia's newspaper shouldn't appear when the
newspaper isn't there anymore*
shouldn't be possible to get stuck in vv's dialogue so that you
can't take the chastity quest*
if you get the quest log entry for the igor quest from venus, igor
should be there*
the prince/beckett mini-cutscene/broken convo bug should be fixed
(i disabled the cutscene)*
updated fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.2.rar)
v0.6
-----
if you try to use the locked computer in warrens4 without the
keycard, the keycard is highlighted if your inspection feat was too
low to highlight it automatically*
cleaned up brother kanker's dialogue - shouldn't get stuck in a loop
anymore*
zygaena shouldn't be in the red dragon after you've killed him
anymore*
shouldn't teleport to kingsway mansion after watching snuff film
with isaac*
shouldn't be able to get stuck with vandal's dialogue so he thinks
you're on the replacing lily quest when you're not
if you've already read about rolf toten on the krimeputer when you
find the bail bond, you don't need to read about him again*
if you've already read about virgil crumb on the krimeputer when you
get the driver's license, you don't need to read about him again*
should no longer get a masquerade violation for convincing the
serial killer not to kill again*
should now get xp for completing the replacing lily quest*
relinked the xp award for finding lily's items to the experience
table*
fixed a logic error in beckett's dialogue that resulted in "no valid
responses" when talking about disciplines*
v0.5
-----
if you've already read about ginger swan when you talk to the
courier, you shouldn't need to go back and read again -> removed
bonus xp for completing warehouse quest without killing should now
be awarded even if you don't make it to beckett before the timer
runs out*
fixed another incorrect gender reference in samantha's dialogue
v0.4
-----
should no longer be able to get both rewards for the hitman quest in
chinatown -> corrected
bonus xp for completing warehouse quest without killing should be
awarded
isaac should now no longer refer to everyone as a toreador*
gargoyle quest completion lines should now stop reappearing before
you've been to king's way, not just after*
isaac should give everyone a gift for completing the king's way
quest*
fixed some responses to samantha in hollywood that were referring to
the player as the incorrect gender*
v0.3
-----
xp for killing bach and saving johansen in the leopold quest should
now be given*
when intimidating vandal, you should now get the free bloodpack*
fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.1.rar)
added changelog.txt for those who want to know exactly what's been
altered -> removed
v0.2
-----
the computer in the nocturne theatre being hackable for mitnick's
quest before you've even met mitnick
mercurio giving morphine quest reward twice if you have morphine the
first time you meet him
skipping the tutorial now gives lockpicks, the .38 and 2 xp
food critic quest should now always give reward, only worked in v0.1
under very specific circumstances (if you've already completed this
quest, you'll notice it become unfinished in your log - go to your
haven and type "tomSetQuestFour()" to complete it and get the reward)
dialogue option from asylum blood donor showing up for the
confessions blood donor when playing as a female
v0.1
-----
lily's sire's license plate not showing up in quest log
mercurio not selling the swat rifle
food critic quest not giving a reward
serial killer quest failing when persuading him not to kill again
isaac's conversation not allowing anyone but toreadors to mention
the tzimisce
gargoyle quest completion lines constantly reappearing in isaac's
conversation*
dialogue line showing up twice when venus gives you money
melee attacks doing zero damage when breaking obfuscate level 1 or 2
with an attack
being able to tell strauss you solved his gargoyle problem even if
you didn't know he had a gargoyle problem*
gary's email quests for the posters sometimes not all appearing*
-----
not fixing (not considered bugs):
heather goes to haven anyway if rejected outside ventrue tower ->
intended behaviour
museum trip beams leaving door locked to anyone who can't hack ->
guard carries key
gary's posters appearing at all havens -> intended behaviour
mitnick quest emails disappearing -> intended behaviour
-----
not fixing (look like engine errors):
inventory space issue (items disappearing, but still being in
inventory) -> fixed in official patch 1.2
frenzy jamming obfuscate on conversation lockup during beckett's
"wait!" cutscene -> replay until it works
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Unofficial Patch Readme]
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines unofficial patch 1.4
---------------------------------------------------------
This is an unofficial patch for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
by Troika Games. It is based on Dan Upright's great unofficial oma
Vampire Patch 1.2 whose readme is included with minor corrections.
Extract the archive into your game folder keeping the directory
structure intact and back up all overwritten files if you want to
remove it later.
This patch attempts to fix many bugs, but no guarantees are made,
since we haven't had time to test them all. It can be installed on
top of the official 1.2 patch from Troika Games without problems.
Confirmations of fixes marked with a "*" would be nice, also reports
of any other problems, glitches or non-crashing bugs we have missed
up until now.
Not done (impossible?):
-----------------------
Giovanni can be heard speaking when he isn't in the room anymore.
The news report a bloodbath even if you just sneak-killed Johnny.
There is a door in the Santa Monica hospital with lockpicking 11.
In Gary's lair you have to jump over the furniture to move along.
v1.4
----
Repaired SWAT rifle crosshair and set damage similar to 'Jamie Sue'.
Made rifles and crossbows use single shots to fit reload animation.
Barabus will not be in the Fu Syndicate anymore after you have left.
Removed illogical placed flamethrower and Ra blade from Hollowbrook.
Chastity will have the Ra blade and a crossbow can be found nearby.
Put flaming crossbow, torch and flamethrower at the Leopold Society.
Changed damage of blunt weapons to fists < arm < baton < bat < iron.
Made CD quest available to all clans as Malkavian lines were there.
Fixed Tawni and friend noticing you before accepting Imalia's quest.
Made vendors sell crossbow bolts with Tseng selling a crossbow too.
Imalia's magazine quest is now also available after her Tawni quest.
v1.3
----
After providing Romero with a sexy night he will give you his rifle.
Removed Dan's "Ginger Swan fix", because the quest was not updated.
Isaac-Tzimisce dialogue line will disappear after quest is complete.
Changed the inventory text of Jamie Sue, Bach's rifle and Steyr Aug.
Corrected some subtitles so the Hengeyokai surprise is not spoiled.
Changed lots of subtitles so not every thug is called a Sabbat thug.
Edited quest log texts of Necromantic to prevent misunderstandings.
Corrected Isaac dialogue options so you can't get the gift right on.
Changed the strange "untie" lines in the Johansen dialogue options.
Provided 2 xp for rescueing Ash from the Society of Leopold caverns.
Made Bach drop rifle or sword on defeat, may remove teleport light.
Removed Yukies untakeble sword and changed the dialogue accordingly.
Modified some dialogue of Wong Ho in regard to the white haired man.
Wong Ho and hostess will not be in the Red Dragon after he is gone.
The White Cloud doors in Chinatown will be open from the beginning.
Yukie will not appear before you visited the temple to fit her talk.
The Hollowbrook Hotel cutscene will only happen if Heather is alive.
v1.2
-----
fixed an indentation error in warrens.py that was causing scripts to
stop working
v1.1
-----
included romero's dialogue file, so the fix from v1.0 stands a
better chance of working this time around
v1.0
-----
patch now automated (and merged with leopatch) -> undone
prince/beckett cutscene fix is back in
fixed a typo in beckett's dialogue that was breaking an auto-link
(thanks to doug thompson)
fixed beckett's dialogue trailing off as you're teleported into the
ventrue lobby*
fixed romero locking up if you're a woman, you flirted with him and
completed the zombie quest*
fixed imalia's newspaper from appearing when you fail the tawni
quest*
fixed the society of leopold crash with style and grace (meaning all
clans should now transition unbugged to the correct landmark in la)
undid a previous mess i'd made of gary's poster quests - should work
as originally intended now
v0.9
-----
fixed beckett trying to increase your scholarship when it's already
at max (thanks to Executor for this and the similar fix in v0.8)*
updated fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.3.rar)
v0.8
-----
removed the prince/beckett cutscene fix until a reported bug is
confirmed/fixed
placed the sound file for a line of isaac's dialogue in the correct
directory (had been incorrect since v0.1)
fixed beckett trying to increase your inspection feat and failing -
now increases investigation instead*
v0.7
-----
hunters won't spawn if the courier is behind the fast buck in
hollywood - should stop people being killed during this cutscene
the highlight for imalia's newspaper shouldn't appear when the
newspaper isn't there anymore*
shouldn't be possible to get stuck in vv's dialogue so that you
can't take the chastity quest*
if you get the quest log entry for the igor quest from venus, igor
should be there*
the prince/beckett mini-cutscene/broken convo bug should be fixed
(i disabled the cutscene)*
updated fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.2.rar)
v0.6
-----
if you try to use the locked computer in warrens4 without the
keycard, the keycard is highlighted if your inspection feat was too
low to highlight it automatically*
cleaned up brother kanker's dialogue - shouldn't get stuck in a loop
anymore*
zygaena shouldn't be in the red dragon after you've killed him
anymore*
shouldn't teleport to kingsway mansion after watching snuff film
with isaac*
shouldn't be able to get stuck with vandal's dialogue so he thinks
you're on the replacing lily quest when you're not
if you've already read about rolf toten on the krimeputer when you
find the bail bond, you don't need to read about him again*
if you've already read about virgil crumb on the krimeputer when you
get the driver's license, you don't need to read about him again*
should no longer get a masquerade violation for convincing the
serial killer not to kill again*
should now get xp for completing the replacing lily quest*
relinked the xp award for finding lily's items to the experience
table*
fixed a logic error in beckett's dialogue that resulted in "no valid
responses" when talking about disciplines*
v0.5
-----
if you've already read about ginger swan when you talk to the
courier, you shouldn't need to go back and read again -> removed
bonus xp for completing warehouse quest without killing should now
be awarded even if you don't make it to beckett before the timer
runs out*
fixed another incorrect gender reference in samantha's dialogue
v0.4
-----
should no longer be able to get both rewards for the hitman quest in
chinatown -> corrected
bonus xp for completing warehouse quest without killing should be
awarded
isaac should now no longer refer to everyone as a toreador*
gargoyle quest completion lines should now stop reappearing before
you've been to king's way, not just after*
isaac should give everyone a gift for completing the king's way
quest*
fixed some responses to samantha in hollywood that were referring to
the player as the incorrect gender*
v0.3
-----
xp for killing bach and saving johansen in the leopold quest should
now be given*
when intimidating vandal, you should now get the free bloodpack*
fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.1.rar)
added changelog.txt for those who want to know exactly what's been
altered -> removed
v0.2
-----
the computer in the nocturne theatre being hackable for mitnick's
quest before you've even met mitnick
mercurio giving morphine quest reward twice if you have morphine the
first time you meet him
skipping the tutorial now gives lockpicks, the .38 and 2 xp
food critic quest should now always give reward, only worked in v0.1
under very specific circumstances (if you've already completed this
quest, you'll notice it become unfinished in your log - go to your
haven and type "tomSetQuestFour()" to complete it and get the reward)
dialogue option from asylum blood donor showing up for the
confessions blood donor when playing as a female
v0.1
-----
lily's sire's license plate not showing up in quest log
mercurio not selling the swat rifle
food critic quest not giving a reward
serial killer quest failing when persuading him not to kill again
isaac's conversation not allowing anyone but toreadors to mention
the tzimisce
gargoyle quest completion lines constantly reappearing in isaac's
conversation*
dialogue line showing up twice when venus gives you money
melee attacks doing zero damage when breaking obfuscate level 1 or 2
with an attack
being able to tell strauss you solved his gargoyle problem even if
you didn't know he had a gargoyle problem*
gary's email quests for the posters sometimes not all appearing*
-----
not fixing (not considered bugs):
heather goes to haven anyway if rejected outside ventrue tower ->
intended behaviour
museum trip beams leaving door locked to anyone who can't hack ->
guard carries key
gary's posters appearing at all havens -> intended behaviour
mitnick quest emails disappearing -> intended behaviour
-----
not fixing (look like engine errors):
inventory space issue (items disappearing, but still being in
inventory) -> fixed in official patch 1.2
frenzy jamming obfuscate on conversation lockup during beckett's
"wait!" cutscene -> replay until it works
[/QUOTE]
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That's why I'm not a "heat seeker". I stay away from all the new stuff for awhile, especially if it says "unofficial". That's code for, "Your on your own, kid. Good luck."
Sic gorgiamos allos subjectatos nunc
(The Addams family motto: Gladly we feast on those who would subdue us)
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with Ketchup.
(The Addams family motto: Gladly we feast on those who would subdue us)
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy, and good with Ketchup.
another Unofficial Patch (1.5)
After a while I checked the Net to find new unofficial patch. In addition to 1.4, this one says:
good luck for all you who are going to try it.
Oh, link
After a while I checked the Net to find new unofficial patch. In addition to 1.4, this one says:
The rest is the same as with 1.4.v1.5
-----
Fixed Hitman quest bug that showed failure when making them friends.
Awarded 1 xp for getting Imalia's magazine to compensate money loss.
Lowered award for rescueing Ash from the Society of Leopold to 1 xp.
Adjusted knockback ranges for McLusky, SWAT rifle and the shotguns.
Corrected some errors in Hitman quest log, dialogues and doll texts.
Fixed bugs in the dialogue files of Ash and Velvet for extra lines.
Corrected a bug that kept the Santa Monica haven active for Tremere.
Provided 1 humanity point for not telling Hannah that Paul is dead.
Modified the dialogue files of Damsel and Isaac to fix bad options.
good luck for all you who are going to try it.
Oh, link
Jump on my sword while you can, Evil.
I wont be as gentle.
I wont be as gentle.
Minsc - BG2 SoA
Have some more people tried the patches out yet ?
It would be cool if we could get some feedback on bugs that are still there on 1.4/1.5 or are new....
I am currently playing a few other games, but I will try the patches out when I have more time....
It would be cool if we could get some feedback on bugs that are still there on 1.4/1.5 or are new....
I am currently playing a few other games, but I will try the patches out when I have more time....
Lucita y Aragon, Childe of Ambrosio Luis Moncada, Childe of Silvester de Ruiz, Childe of Boukephos, Childe of Lasombra
You'd might also like to check out 1.7, ill add 1.6 info here too
v1.7
----
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Restored original models for the low and high grade computer tomes.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade instead of taking it from Chastity.
Corrected wrong name of the cafe and other locations and map names.
Provided 1 xp for keeping Zhao alive and modified quest accordingly.
Fixed feat conditions in Muddy bum dialogue and a missing variable.
Awarded 1 xp for killing Bruno Giovanni and changed log accordingly.
Corrected wrong subtitles speaker name for Vandal and other people.
Restored many mistyped intimidate options and some answers to Pisha.
v1.6
----
All dialogues were spell checked for typos and more by Paul Moloney.
Several mistyped variables found could provide additional dialogue.
Corrected still not working Hitman quest fix and other related bugs.
Fixed variables in texts of Ash, Bertram, Boris, Venus and Mitnick.
Adjusted damage values of Steyr Aug, SWAT rifle and Ithaca shotgun.
Lowered lockpicking skill needed for chemical substances door to 10.
Prevented triggering the building scene before getting Muddy quest.
Made Model Citizen quest show failure directly after leaving Tawni.
Cleared up the log texts of the Muddy quest and Pishas occult quest.
Reconstructed lip-synchro for the misplaced Isaac text moved by Dan.
Re-branded Uzi, Mac 10, Glock 17c, Ithaca and both Remingtons guns.
Fixed double option with wrong link in the dialogue file of LaCroix.
Renamed Blood Purge and spell checked every text besides subtitles.
v1.7
----
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Restored original models for the low and high grade computer tomes.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade instead of taking it from Chastity.
Corrected wrong name of the cafe and other locations and map names.
Provided 1 xp for keeping Zhao alive and modified quest accordingly.
Fixed feat conditions in Muddy bum dialogue and a missing variable.
Awarded 1 xp for killing Bruno Giovanni and changed log accordingly.
Corrected wrong subtitles speaker name for Vandal and other people.
Restored many mistyped intimidate options and some answers to Pisha.
v1.6
----
All dialogues were spell checked for typos and more by Paul Moloney.
Several mistyped variables found could provide additional dialogue.
Corrected still not working Hitman quest fix and other related bugs.
Fixed variables in texts of Ash, Bertram, Boris, Venus and Mitnick.
Adjusted damage values of Steyr Aug, SWAT rifle and Ithaca shotgun.
Lowered lockpicking skill needed for chemical substances door to 10.
Prevented triggering the building scene before getting Muddy quest.
Made Model Citizen quest show failure directly after leaving Tawni.
Cleared up the log texts of the Muddy quest and Pishas occult quest.
Reconstructed lip-synchro for the misplaced Isaac text moved by Dan.
Re-branded Uzi, Mac 10, Glock 17c, Ithaca and both Remingtons guns.
Fixed double option with wrong link in the dialogue file of LaCroix.
Renamed Blood Purge and spell checked every text besides subtitles.
[QUOTE=Bluefang]"Removed illogical placed flamethrower and Ra blade from Hollowbrook.
Chastity will have the Ra blade and a crossbow can be found nearby."
No. Chastity has an ordinary katana.
So there's no special katana in Hollowbrook any more???? I LOVE that sword! Where is it!!!???[/QUOTE]
One of the previous versions of the patch placed the Ra blade on chastity. That's what the message is referring to. They've now moved it to Yukie. I am not sure whether Yukie gifts it, or has to be killed for it. That will be interesting to test. The flamethrower was moved to Society of Leopold.
Chastity will have the Ra blade and a crossbow can be found nearby."
No. Chastity has an ordinary katana.
So there's no special katana in Hollowbrook any more???? I LOVE that sword! Where is it!!!???[/QUOTE]
One of the previous versions of the patch placed the Ra blade on chastity. That's what the message is referring to. They've now moved it to Yukie. I am not sure whether Yukie gifts it, or has to be killed for it. That will be interesting to test. The flamethrower was moved to Society of Leopold.
I like Yukie giving it to you as well. It makes a lot more story sense than finding it in that corner of the hotel. Likewise, you even have a dialogue to ask about Yukie's sword in the unpatched version of the game. It was odd that it was just a 'regular' katana. I didn't care for the change to Chastity, though. That was far too early in the game to receive the blade, in my opinion. So, the change to Yukie was a much more well thought out one.
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