Favorite band lineups.......

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 3:47 pm

Originally posted by McBane

That's low

What the fact that my dad listens to the same music as you? Whats the problem? He's like 35, not that old!

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 3:48 pm

Originally posted by Nippy

He's like 35, not that old!

Thank's a bunch....

- I guess...

Bel. ( Worries. )

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 3:51 pm

somehow, I screwed this all up quoting you a couple of times. I fear attempting to fix the problem would only worsen it.

by Beldin
@Ned: Floyd with Barret was more blues / rock oriented ( on the earliest singles they sometimes sound like a Beatles coverband.)

Corporal Clegg is the tune that stands out in my mind with this statement

by beldin
There can be no discussion about Syd Barret being an innovative genius, but to be completely honest - I like the guitarplaying style of Gilmour more than any other. (And since I'm some kind of guitar-loving freak he has some HARD competition... )]

Agreed on both counts, Barrett was a genius although, I too, prefer the life Gilmour injected in the guitar. Echoes, atom heart mother, pompeii, he did some fantastic stuff early on. As Waters' ego got bigger, after dark side, gilmour's style changed. It got angrier and edgier. Perhaps gilmour himself viewed it as part of a maturation process for both himself and the band, however, I think he lost some of his freedom in style as the band grew in popularity. The product was just as good, it was a little more controlled. wish you..., animals, the wall, final cut, and the end of waters. I could, of course, be overanalyzing things. It wouldn't be the first time.

by beldin
On the Roger Waters question : Since he left, the style of Floyd has developed a "nicer" feel. I can't really describe it in detail it's just feeling, but it's a lot less depressing now to listen P.F. while stoned...

I can't say I agree, but that's a matter of taste. They were excellent with and without Waters. I don't know if it was ever depressing to listen to the Floyd while experiencing the euphoric effects of certain burned plants.

Nice chat about the Floyd though; I still have parents original copies of wish you, animals, and the wall on vinyl. The earlier stuff, they say, was too weird for them so they didn't have it. I believe they got rid of those albums because they were less fun to listen to without extracurricular activities.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 3:51 pm

Originally posted by Nippy

What the fact that my dad listens to the same music as you? Whats the problem? He's like 35, not that old!

Your dad is 35?

That is cool! My dad is only 22 years older than I - so a young dad too by all accounts. However, one major flaw, he likes Meatloaf!!

Oh! and Bon Jovi!

*sigh*

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 3:54 pm

Originally posted by Ned Flanders

Nice chat about the Floyd though; I still have parents original copies of wish you, animals, and the wall on vinyl. The earlier stuff, they say, was too weird for them so they didn't have it. I believe they got rid of those albums because they were less fun to listen to without extracurricular activities.

What do you mean your parents copies?

I have everything Floyd and Barret have done on Vinyl - and a few chosen ones on CD...

I also went to the Roger Waters rendition of The Wall at the Potzdamer Platz in 1990, after the Berlin Wall came down!

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:00 pm

by Ysh
What do you mean your parents copies? I have everything Floyd and Barret have done on Vinyl - and a few chosen ones on CD...

Well, when those albums came out in the mid seventies I was only four five six years old. My parents were in there mid twenties (yes, another product of young parents) and they liked the Floyd and bought their albums. I took them off their hands years ago, they didn't care and were flattered and frightenend I was so into their music. I grew up listening to the beatles, simon and garfunkel, floyd, neil diamond, zep, doors, hendrix.

So, if you have originals of the albums, perhaps you just have a few years on me as far as age goes. Had I been ten, eleven, twelve at the time, I probably would have bought them.

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:07 pm

Originally posted by Ned Flanders

I can't say I agree, but that's a matter of taste. They were excellent with and without Waters. I don't know if it was ever depressing to listen to the Floyd while experiencing the euphoric effects of certain burned plants.

@Ned: It's not necessary to inhale burned vegetables, it's just easier to explain that way...

Let's compare :

The "Delicate Sound of Thunder " Album (or the "Momentary lapse of reason" LP )- which were the first to be released after the break from Waters, they have still a lot of Waters influence in it, but if you listen to "Divison Bell" (one of their latest) you'll find that it sounds like they had more fun playing it...sounds probably weird, but you should be used to that from me by now...

Hell, even the "Dark Side Of The Moon " sounds "happier" on the "Pulse" Album when Gilmour is singing - although I'm not sure if that was intended.

Am I making any sense ? Or am I really to tired to go on...?

No worries,

Beldin

Beldin · Post by **Beldin** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:14 pm

Originally posted by Ned Flanders

I grew up listening to the beatles, simon and garfunkel, floyd, neil diamond, zep, doors, hendrix.

So, if you have originals of the albums, perhaps you just have a few years on me as far as age goes. Had I been ten, eleven, twelve at the time, I probably would have bought them.

Same here.

G'night y'all !

No worries,

Beldin

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:18 pm

I did like delicate sound and momentary, saw 'em in concert a couple of times. You said, "Vegetables", that was our code word in the dorms in college. that's so very funny.

I suppose with those albums it flows differently. I didn't really listen to division bell. It got so much airplay in the states, it got annoying with the people who only follow the radio thinking there was this new band called Pink Floyd. An exaggeration, of course, but those people were out there, and being the ever non conformist, I wouldn't bite on the album.

nuff said.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:55 pm

That is a big sticking point with a friend of mine and metallica. He still doesn't listen to the Black Album....you know, the one where the masses *discovered* Metallica?

On a related point, I was pleased with jason when he joined after Cliff died. He fit in great, and unlike a lot of other people who come into a band, didn't feel he had to drastically alter their sound to put his stamp on them. He was a real fan of the music, was already and experienced musician in a pretty cool band, and was just plain cool. You could see his leaving coming for a long time though, he never seemed to want to buy into the new thing the band was trying to do. Wish Lars and james had listened to him.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:13 pm

Ah, I'd forgotten about Metallica

Cliff Burton. He was good. Jason Newstead was a pretty good filler. Justice is a fine album. It has lots of good tunes but it has blackened. All of the other tunes could suck and it would still be a good album with blackened. ok I'm rambling.

The black album, despite how it propelled Metallica into the limelight (begins to hear rush tunes ringing in his head), took quite a while to catch on. I remember MTV beating the hell out of enter sandman and I hated them for that. Both Metallica and MTV. But the album didn't really take off until unforgiven and nothing else matters took off. It was strange, I liked the tunes but I could taste them selling out so I jumped off the wagon and started blaring kill em all and ride the lightning.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:18 pm

The influence of Bob Rck I suppose

But, the best lineup change of all time came from Metallica, when they fired Dave Mustaine and thus was born Megadeth.....the bets of both worlds.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:24 pm

forgot about the firing of Dave Mustaine as well...although I never really thought much of megadeth.

Back to Metallica, how many albums have they had since the black album. That "Where's your crown, king nothing" was crap. I did listen to the album, my boycott solely not based on them selling out. I even went to see them live. sure was different than the monster of rock in 87 with tesla, metallica, and VH.

off subject: A while back a new metal/hard rock station started in congruence with Stern coming to the airwaves here. The station claimed to have the largest metal library and challenged the listeners to come up with something they didn't have to wins subs from subway and movie tickets or something like that. We stumped 'em on day 1 with Britny Fox; anyone remember those clowns.

T'lainya · Post by **T'lainya** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:30 pm

Britney Fox...Digs through memories of Headbangers Ball episodes..They wore a lot of velvet/lace stuff right?

How about Anthrax? I loved them getting John Bush as the vocalist

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:34 pm

never was a big anthrax fan although the number they did with public enemy was quite good. A great tune to run to.

again T, for the second day in a row I bid you a fond farewell. I'm outta here.

Oh yeah, about Britny Fox, I have no idea. It was just a band name someone remembered at work at the right time. It scored a bunch of us a free lunch.

I thought the velvet/lace look was the vinnie vincent invasion. damn, there were so many glam bands. I'd like to say I was interested solely for the humor, but I actually dug a lot of the music. got poison's greatest hitz in the car presently, now that is comedy.

in the liner notes: Bret Michaels references writing every rose has its' thorn. He wrote it in a "laundry mat" and I quote. I not sure how that sort of place differs from a laundromat but apparently it inspired front man and pretty boy, Bret Michaels. Which also reminds me, I saw poison in concert about eight years ago. C C Deville was so hammered he fell off the stage. I don't think anyone was concerned about his health, we were all laughing our a's off.

T'lainya · Post by **T'lainya** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:35 pm

That was the only song I liked pre lineup change.

I was much more impressed with The Sound Of White Noise cd.
See ya Ned

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:36 pm

Britney Fox?? begins to hear "Girlschool" playing in his head.

@T, could you be more specific? you just described about 90 percent of the "metal" MTV played in the 80's

Well, there was Load, and Re-Load, and the re-release of garage Inc with additional tracks which was pretty cool. I love the Mercyful Fate tribute on that.

T'lainya · Post by **T'lainya** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:40 pm

Originally posted by Bloodstalker

@T, could you be more specific? you just described about 90 percent of the "metal" MTV played in the 80's

BS that's all I remember of Britney Fox, some video or other or possibly more. They didn't make an impression on me.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:43 pm

please go back and reread my last post I added a funny story about poison in there.

now, I'm really leaving. thanks for the chat. you all helped me miss rush hour.

I'll check back in roughly 35 minutes. this is too good right now.

Bloodstalker · Post by **Bloodstalker** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 5:44 pm

Catch ya later ned.