Monkfistquestion

Thehalfelf · Post by **Thehalfelf** » Fri Sep 28, 2001 1:13 pm

The monk's fist deals 1-20 damage and is considered a +4 weapon in the end. Does the +4 appear to damage as to the THACO, making the fists deal 1-24?

Thehalfelf · Post by **Thehalfelf** » Fri Sep 28, 2001 1:16 pm

One more thing: If my monk detects the traps, will Haer'Dalis be able to remove them?

Thanks

THE JAKER · Post by **THE JAKER** » Fri Sep 28, 2001 1:50 pm

Haer-Dalis's only thief skill is Pickpockets, he cannot disarm a trap even though he can set them with a high level ability.

Sabre · Post by **Sabre** » Fri Sep 28, 2001 7:39 pm

The +4 is the enchantment of your fist - meaning you can hit monsters that need +4 or lower enchantment to hit - it does not change the amount of damage you deal out, so it remain at 1-20. I don't think it appear on the THAC0 either, enchantment doesn't always mean better THAC0 or damage, it just allow you to hit monsters that need that certain level to hit.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Fri Sep 28, 2001 11:07 pm

I just knew haer dalis was useless! Not only does the bum try to steal my cuddly aerie, he can't even disarm traps!
what good is he!

yeah, I know, people have yelled at me he is really good, but seriously, he is just such a whiner... though I might get him in party for just a while, and run cntrl I to hear his suggestion to sell jaheria in the market...hee hee!!!

Bruce Lee · Post by **Bruce Lee** » Sat Sep 29, 2001 5:41 am

I know for a fact that in the case of monks the thaco and damage bonus is the same as the enchantment. Meaning that it does 1d20+4 when they are enchanted to hit +4.
This is not the case with all weapons ofcourse but with their fists it is.
Easy to see if you watch you thac0 before and after a level up where the enchantment went up.
You can also see it if you look at the fists with infinity explorer.

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Sat Sep 29, 2001 10:11 pm

Does it really matter? 1d20! Thats huge. There isnt a weapon in the game that does that much damage. Not even with bonuses. Find me any other class of char that can have these stats
12
17
14
13
16
14

and still do 20 damage 4 times a round. GO MONK GO!

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Sat Sep 29, 2001 10:11 pm

Then there comes in the quivering palm and stunning blow. Beats the hell outta vorpal and CF if you ask me. Give Monk a girdle of X strength, those cool gauntlets and the ioun stone, hes amazing@!

[ 09-30-2001: Message edited by: Knight Errant ]

Xyx · Post by **Xyx** » Sun Sep 30, 2001 5:49 pm

Flail of Ages +5 does 17-22 damage per hit, 2,5 times per round, and you can dual wield (Belm +2, anyone?) and cast Haste or Improved Haste on top of that. I don't see how any Monk tops that.