Our post-apocalyptic future?

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:58 am

I've posted it once but it didn't get the attention it deserves. A nice piece of art, by St. Toxic from the RPG Codex forum. But see for yourself...

Is this what Bethsoft will deliver? Our Fallout 3?

I think so...

Discuss.

Malta Soron · Post by **Malta Soron** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:18 pm

It's a really nice cartoon, but I don't know what all the symbols mean. Could you explain them?

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:14 pm

Malta Soron wrote:It's a really nice cartoon, but I don't know what all the symbols mean. Could you explain them?

Which exactly need explanation?

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:17 pm

Monolith wrote:I've posted it once but it didn't get the attention it deserves. A nice piece of art, by St. Toxic from the RPG Codex forum. But see for yourself...

Is this what Bethsoft will deliver? Our Fallout 3?

I think so...

Discuss.

Don't want to paint a gloom picture when we know practically nothing - but I have no faith in bethesda actually putting up a game with quality over graphics and which is challenging (other then simply putting up more monsters).

Some of the symbols on the drawing are level scaling (which takes away from the exploration factor and accomplishment factor from RPGs), the Fallout canon which is being "stepped on" (meaning "lore" will be ignored or altered), soil erosion which I can only interpret as the recent games from Bethesda have required the intellect of a wet blanket to play because the player is being babysat (also on the drawing), for instance with insta-travel and pointer/markers all over all while being hyped so it can "win" the awards from a "critical" gaming community.

I have no faith in Bethesda. They've disappointed me since DaggerFall and I loathed any game where it is up to the community themselves to actually make the game decent (Morrowind/Oblivion - I'm looking at "you") which means the games are little more then graphical displays of a sandbox.
So I think the drawing is painting the future, although one can hope somebody in that company actually likes games.

Malta Soron · Post by **Malta Soron** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:43 pm

Thanks. But what do the guys on the shoulders and the 'twitch gaming' mean? (Note: I didn't play Oblivion, but I read a lot about it.)

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:13 pm

That guy is Todd Howard, Executive Producer of Oblivion (Here's a pic of him. And Twitch Gaming is a derogatory term for reflex based action games. At least that's the way I understand it.

FV-Chainsaw · Post by **FV-Chainsaw** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:15 am

There is two positive things ive read about fallout 3 so far:
They refuse to make it for a throw away console system.
Its going to remain similar to the dark style of fallout 1 2 and tactics.

I also think that without the original interplay programers this game wont reach its potential.

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:18 am

Oh well, it probably will be for a console => http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/fallo ... 84261.html

FV-Chainsaw · Post by **FV-Chainsaw** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:56 pm

Oops I just skimed over that article.

FV-Chainsaw · Post by **FV-Chainsaw** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:58 pm

After buying rouge trooper I vowed never to buy another pc game that was also made for a throw away console.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:45 am

Please do not post back-to-back like this, when an edit of your former post would have worked just as well

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Tricky · Post by **Tricky** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:16 pm

Soil erosion?

Monolith · Post by **Monolith** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:22 pm

Tricky wrote:Soil erosion?

Bethsoft's excuse for crappy level design

Tricky · Post by **Tricky** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:37 pm

Hm, I don't know about that. Having toyed with Terragen in the past I can appreciate those kind of tools.

Infares · Post by **Infares** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:28 pm

For those who didn't catch the parody, this thing will probably seem much funnier to you when you see this:

This is a WWII propaganda poster from Nazi Germany.

But yeah, I'm a huge fan of the original Fallout property, and since Troika tanked I can't really see anyone but the original team doing a proper job with it. I probably will still play the Bethesda version, but then again they probably won't deserve my money and support.