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Internet partly to blame for increase in social isolation

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Since I know several people here are interested in the effects of internet at social life and communication, I thought this recent study would be of interest.

You can read the pop-version here:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/0 ... iends.html

or download the full article as a pdf here (I hope, let me know if the link doesn't work):
http://www.asanet.org/galleries/default ... eature.pdf

The study starts with the previously many times demonstrated fact that social interactions are important for people, and that close social confidants, called core confidants play a special role in people's lives since they provide us with a broader scope of support and are more likely to provide major help in crisis situation. Our core confidants also influence us more than less close people.
The study use a phone survey in order to assess people's social networks, and compare the results from 1985 with the present results. The main findings are:
1. Discussion networks are smaller in 2004 than in 1985.
2. The number of people saying there is no one with whom they discuss important matters nearly tripled.
3. The mean network size decreases by about a third (one confidant), from 2.94 in 1985 to 2.08 in 2004.

In the discussion part of the article, the authors express worries about the changes in social network. A previous well-established study has shown that people who have only one or none core confident, has insuffiecient support. Generalising the findings of the present study, would mean that half of all Americans lack adequate social support.

The reasons for the changes are not known, but based on other studies, the authors suggest geographical spreading, increase in work hours and increase in internet use as possible factors. The also suggest the possibility of a change in mode of communication as an explanation for the results.
McPherson wrote: Wellman et al. (2006:10–13) note that Internet usage may even interfere with communication in the home, creating a post-familial family where family
members spend time interacting with multiple computers in the home, rather than with each other. They suggest that computer technology may foster a wider, less-localized array of weak ties, rather than the strong, tightly interconnected confidant ties that we have measured here.
This may not be all bad, of course, since we know that weak ties expose us to a wider range of information than strong, close ties. We also know, however, that strong ties offer a wider array of support, both in normal times (Wellman and Worley 1990) and in emergencies (Hurlburt et al. 2000). Only geographically local ties can offer some services and emotional support with
ease (Wellman and Worley 1990). Whatever the reason, it appears that
Americans are connected far less tightly now than they were 19 years ago. Furthermore, ties with local neighborhoods and groups have suffered at a higher rate than others. Possibly, we will discover that it is not so much a matter of increasing isolation but a shift in the form and type of connection. Just as Sampson et al. (2005) discovered a shift in the type of civic partici-
pation, and the Pew Internet and American Society Report (Boase et al. 2006) showed a shift in modes of communication, the evidence that we present here may be an indicator of a shift in structures of affiliation.
So what do you think? Is it negative that people have smaller social networks and fewer confidents? Can internet friends compensate for lack of real life friends? Don't we need friends in our physical environment anymore?

I'd also like to hear if you are aware of any similar studies, and the results of those, in your countries. This study was performed in the US, and the results are consistent with other similar studies in the US. I haven't seen any studies on non-US populations though, but sociology is quite far from my own field so I may well have missed it.
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I personally have 0 "core confidants." I used to but stuff happens. And I can tell you internet has messed up a lot of stuff.

Lets see... a friend of mine likes to chat online and many times I have to wait for her to get off with her online friends before she actually starts chatting with me. It is so annoying >,< She will take around like 30 minutes to an hour. Half the time I'll just leave...

Also, back in the day in my hood' we used to go out all the time and hang out with each other. Nowadays I rarely see any of them outside and rarely see kids playing outside. Well summer people tend to come out more but that's it. In between work, school, game consoles, and sleeping people don't have the time to go out anymore... it sucks.
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I remember having very few "core" friends growing up; I didn't get along much with anyone, and when I did, trouble generally ensued (yes, I was one of those kids). Around the age of 8, my sole "core confidant" was gone; his mom wouldn't bring him to the afterschool daycare anymore due to an accident he suffered (accident; a girl hit him on the head with something and he had to get stitches). I had other friends, and some of them could have been "core confidants," but they were more on the cusp of being such rather than actually being those. At 13, I was already immersed in online stuff, and at 14 I was quickly losing interest in what friends I thought I had, few though they were; they made it rather clear they had lost interest in me, too, so it wasn't so bad. I probably didn't gain a new C.C. until I was 19, but then I didn't even consider him a friend. I probably finally gained some C.C.s last fall when I got my first job, and the staff--particularly the assistant manager--started dragging me out of the cave I'd so effectively cloistered myself in.

Being an online junkie did not cause this; it was a result of it. I made better friends online than I ever did off (well, until recently anyway), and for all my idiosyncracies, I came out just fine (though some of you will argue to the contrary :rolleyes: ). Anyway, what's so important about having physical friends? An online friend can be there for you in every way you need them as much as a physical friend; only way they can't be there for you is to take you out drinking when you're feeling blue. :rolleyes:
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@JonIrenicus: It's sad to hear you have 0 core confidents...
In the case of your friend, would you think that the online-friends she is chatting with provide as close relationships as real life friendships?

@Chimaera: The reason why the authors of the article propose that physical friends can provide more support than online friends is mostly practical - online friends may live far away and cannot help you out if you need to escape from a catastrophy, an abusive family or similar. Another reason, although not as explored, is the tendency for online-contact to be more superficial and not centered around things that are really important to people. The latter does however not exclude the possibility of very close online relationships, it merely points out that the frequency is lower.
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[QUOTE=C Elegans]It's sad to hear you have 0 core confidents...
In the case of your friend, would you think that the online-friends she is chatting with provide as close relationships as real life friendships? [/QUOTE]

Lot of shady people around here, hence why I have none. My first core confident killed himself two years ago and since he was my best friend that hurt. My other really good friend was living a different state so it was hard to really get connected. Well he moved back (much thanks to me) and now he works so much I rarely ever see him. I have maybe seen him once every few months. Lately we have been getting together more then that but he still isn't my core confident any more. If he isn't working then he is playing video games and if he isn't doing that then he is drinking...

In case of my girly friend she ahh... treats everyone like a friend, even people who aren't her friends per say. She will also blindly (or at least she used to) go meet people that she has met online and some of them have turned out to be some of the worst people I have ever met (she feels the same). Well to get to the short answer... no. She just cares for herself whether she sees it or not.

Both my older brothers treat my dad as their core confident, like the person they go to with any major problem. I have a feeling I may have my dad as a core confident as well, after I move out and all.
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I'm really bad at keeping contact with old friends, so the Internet helps some in that aspect, because e-mail and similar helps compared to having to meet up or send snail-mail (which I hate).

I am not one who is socially outgoing, so to speak, I preferer to keep tomyself when in private to counter the social facade I put up (and think many people have to put up) when in public/at work etc and thus only have few "friends", and the Internet has had nothing to do with this (heck - the Internet wasn't even invented the first half of my life :D ).
I am not even sure I'd classify any of my friends as people whom I would confide in, in all aspects of life. There are issues which I keep almost fully to myself.
And seeing that I already started doing this - prior to the Internet, I doubt my influence from that has been significant :)

Personally, I'd often classify some online friends as real life as well, because well - it is ultimately real life people you meet on the other side of cyberspace, and I must admit that once in a while I miss "talking" to some of the online friends I've made through various games as much as I miss talking to some of the real life friends I've lost touch with. In this electronic day and age, I have difficulties with every finding which seperates the cyberspace from real life because cyberspace is often an indicator of real life - sure people cheat, lie and steal there, but they do so in real life as well. You are not more sure that the person you meet in real life tells you the truth anymore then the person you meet in cyberspace. It is just easier for some to lie in cyberspace, but there are many good liers in real life as well.
For me people are people, whether I've met them via text on a screen, text on paper, telephone call or in person. How my "relationship" with them moves from there then depends on if I like that person, not whether the media is electronic or not.


So I can't argue much with the findings (don't have the knowlegde to back it up) other then say it doesn't fit me, but whether the findings are actually bad or not, that I'd judge in each case because people are different.
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I only have a handful of core confidents. Some of those are RL friends, some are OL friends. I don't view the internet as having affected my situation all that much, however. I've always been fairly guarded, and there are only a few people to whom I really reveal things.

IMO, friendships are friendships, regardless of whether they are online or offline. In either case, some are profound, some are superficial.

But, that being said, I do think that online friendships do not always have the same ability to help during a crisis. If an RL friend is hurting I can spend time with her/him, sometimes I can even do something concrete that helps.
But..when an OL friend is going through something difficult.... I feel so damned helpless. And, if somebody just has OL friendships, that is very serious indeed. There is a practical limit as to what an online friend can do, especially when the distance is vast.
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[QUOTE=Xandax]I'm really bad at keeping contact with old friends, so the Internet helps some in that aspect, because e-mail and similar helps compared to having to meet up or send snail-mail (which I hate).[/QUOTE]
That's also the same for me. :D I am also bad at keeping in contact with friends especially when they are living in another town or country. With the internet (and especially broadband), I was able to keep in contact with one of my friends studying overseas. The others just fade away into non-existence and I really regret not keeping in touch with them (thanks a lot, 56K dial-up).

[QUOTE=Xandax]
I am not one who is socially outgoing, so to speak, I preferer to keep tomyself when in private to counter the social facade I put up (and think many people have to put up) when in public/at work etc and thus only have few "friends", and the Internet has had nothing to do with this (heck - the Internet wasn't even invented the first half of my life :D ).
I am not even sure I'd classify any of my friends as people whom I would confide in, in all aspects of life. There are issues which I keep almost fully to myself.
And seeing that I already started doing this - prior to the Internet, I doubt my influence from that has been significant :)
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Looks like we both share some similarities. I am also not a very socially outgoing person. In addition, I'm bad at making friends in the past and that made me more cautious when approaching someone. So, if I want to be friends with someone, he/she had to socialise for a long time before gaining my trust.

And about personal issues, I'd rather keep them to myself than blurt it out. Even if I had close friends, I would not be willing to open up at all. I'd rather solve them internally than let others know about it.

And normally, people I've known online are people I've met in person. That's for the reason to keep in touch with them when they are far away. Since I do that, the internet, to me, is not my way of making new friends.
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Well - I'm not "bad" at making friends and contacts, I just have no reason to make all the people in the sphere of contact "real friends".
I have an easy time making "friends" in almost all situations outside social events, meaning educational facilities, work places etc. Somehow I attract (not romantically (unfortunally :D ) ) people to me.
I just rarely make them "real" friends, because I have no need for that aspect.
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Am not surprised.

It's no surprise to me that such a study would eventually come up.

I think the area of concern here is if the large amount of time socializing on the internet (or even just plain using the net for whatever purpose) would cause individuals to lose their social skills when encountering others face-to-face.

I think that it doesn't matter how big is the size of your social network nor the amount of confidants you have. I think what matters if you still have the social skills to relate with others.

Reading, writing, listening, and speaking skills, though inter-related, are not the same in terms of facility. Communication skills come in various forms, include non-verbal gestures here as well.

REAL internet friends are great. I got a significant number of them, especially here at SYM. I have even met some of them in real life. ;)

But still, I think that having your friends ACTUALLY THERE with you means a whole lot more. :)
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[QUOTE=C Elegans]
2. The number of people saying there is no one with whom they discuss important matters nearly tripled.
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Interesting that it's been the opposite as of late for me. For the first time in my life, via the internet, I have people I can confide with and it will be just that, confidential.
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[QUOTE=JonIrenicus]Lot of shady people around here, hence why I have none. My first core confident killed himself two years ago and since he was my best friend that hurt.
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She will also blindly (or at least she used to) to meet people that she has met online and some of them have turned out to be some of the worst people I have ever met (she feels the same).
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I have a feeling I may have my dad as a core confident as well, after I move out and all.[/QUOTE]

Very sad to hear your best friend found life so horrible he had to end it. Suicide is very difficult, it is hard to accept that a person choose that way out.

Dangerous behaviour from your female friend there, I hope she at least sticks to public places when meeting those internet contacts. I guess it satisfied some need she has, but it's a high-risk method she has choosen.

I hope you dad can be your core confident after you've moved. In the study I posted, a majority of Americans who had a core confident at all, had a close family member as core confident. One of the things that had decreased was the prescence of core confidents outside of the immediate family.

[quote="Xandax]
In this electronic day and age"]

So the conclusion seems to be that you are just a genuinly asocial person and internet has not changed that in any direction :D

Seriously though, I personally find one major limitation of online-friendships: you only interact with each other by the use of verbal self-reports of your own self-images. You can't observe the other person in various settings and situations. You can't see the other person interact with other people. You can't see the full range of behaviour patterns, only verbal behaviour and verbal reports of other behaviour. You can't observe how the other person is dealing with different situations in different contexts And vice versa, of course. That severely limits online relationships (unless you meet at some point but then it's not merely and online-relationship anymore) in my opinion. For me to develop a really close friendship with somebody, it requires that I see the other person has a high consistency between self-image and actual behaviour and also, that I see how the other person is dealing with novel situations, especially unexpected conflict- and stress situations. An online friendship with somebody I never meet IRL is to me equivalent to a RL relationship where we would only sit and talk in the same closed room every time. That for me is an incomplete form of relationship.

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I agree, and this was also one of the main points the authors made in the discussion part of the study. Practical support like offering somewhere to stay, basic necessities like clothes and food, physical assistance if somebody is injured or ill...that is a disadvantage of all distance relationships and I agree with the authors that no core confidents geographically close to you is inadequate in the case of crisis.
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