Should weed be legalized?

OneWingedAngel · Post by **OneWingedAngel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:00 pm

I seriously think marijuana, (spelt that right?) should be legalized. If anyone wants to comment on this, I'll explain more.

Athena · Post by **Athena** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:01 pm

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:02 pm

*nods* I concur, although I do believe the debate between Mah, Cuch and myself regarding the discussion of illegal substances never got resolved, and I think the mods will close this thread.

Phreddie · Post by **Phreddie** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:03 pm

I dont really care on way or the other, seeing as most of those who want to smoke dont bother oeying that law any way, and most dont get caught, a few do, but most dont. Altough wasnt there some legislation passed recently that legalized it in small amounts some where in michigan/colorado/alaska?

OneWingedAngel · Post by **OneWingedAngel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:03 pm

I think it should be legalized. I mean The Man knows people are gonna do it anyway, so just legalize it so The Man can be cool. :laugh:

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:06 pm

No. And yet, yes. That depends on how will it be legalized.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:06 pm

[QUOTE=Magrus] I think the mods will close this thread.[/QUOTE]

Yep..
As I gather, Buck is not keen to give the appearance that he promotes illegal activities..

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:09 pm

[QUOTE=dragon wench]Yep..
As I gather, Buck is not keen to give the appearance that he promotes illegal activities..[/QUOTE]

*nods* However, the issue never did get resolved the last time Cuch and I had a debate on the impact of illegal drugs on society. *shrugs* I think it should be able to be discussed in an intelligent manner if we can discuss murders and bombings.

slade · Post by **slade** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:09 pm

[QUOTE=dragon wench]Yep..
As I gather, Buck is not keen to give the appearance that he promotes illegal activities..[/QUOTE]
unless your debate has some reason to it and not because you just think it should be legal for you pleasure, if you were talking as a scientific or some sort of real reason then I dont think he would really mind but since there not talking about that....yeah this place is going down:laugh:

OneWingedAngel · Post by **OneWingedAngel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:10 pm

I'm not trying to make Buck mad at me because of this, I just want an honest answer out of everyone. I mean they're putting up such a big deal about Marijuana, it makes me mad. They should go after some of the worse drugs, like Meth or Crack.

Athena · Post by **Athena** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:11 pm

[QUOTE=Magrus] I think the mods will close this thread.[/QUOTE]
Why would this thread be closed?

There is medical marijuana in 13 states.
Maine
Vermont
New York
Rhode Island.
Washington DC
Colarodo
Arizona
New Mexico
California
Oregon
Washington State.
Alaska
Hawaii.

There. Some states just choose the anal belligerent route, turning up their noses claiming "Criminal Cannabis". Bah! The two should never be used in the same scentence.
[QUOTE=OneWingedAngel]I think it should be legalized. I mean The Man knows people are gonna do it anyway, so just legalize it so The Man can be cool. :laugh:[/QUOTE]
Like I stated above, the gvt is too anal to realize that it could help A LOT. It should definately be decriminalized. A lot less people would be criminalized, hence the prison populations would diminish. I think the gvt thinks is that it's too hard to 'convert' to the Cannabis Culture. Sure, It might cost millions, but ooh, the possibilities. It would make the world a better place.

Anyone interested in this should check out the Norml website. I believe it's http://www.norml.com

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:12 pm

The discussion is about "should it be legalized?" so why would a mod close it? Its not (yet) a pro weed thread. Maybe we could focus on the way it could or shoudl be regulated.

OneWingedAngel · Post by **OneWingedAngel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:16 pm

[QUOTE=Athena]Like I stated above, the gvt is too anal to realize that it could help A LOT. A lot less people would be criminalized, hence the prison populations would diminish. I think the gvt thinks is that it's too hard to 'convert' to the Cannabis Culture. Sure, It might cost millions, but ooh, the possibilities.Anyone interested in thhis should check out the Norml website. I believe it's http://www.norml.com[/QUOTE]

Yea, it could help out a lot, thats why I want a honest, statement from everyone. I mean it gets me frustrated that they're putting so much effort keeping this off our streets, when its on their anyways. They should just legalize it and get it over with. I mean as I stated above, they're are worse drugs that they need to worry about.

Athena · Post by **Athena** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:20 pm

Seriously, being criminalized for marijuana charges ruins good people's lives. It should be decriminalized.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:22 pm

[QUOTE=Athena]Seriously, being criminalized for marijuana charges ruins good people's lives. It should be decriminalized.[/QUOTE]

Of course it does, and with good reason. They're still drugs, they're still illegal, and people should avoid them.

Now, it is not regulated and therefore accepted cause people make more profit from it being illegal than if it was legal. Think about the people with the money making more money without paying taxes, without consumers complaining, without tribunal inquiries.

Magrus · Post by **Magrus** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:23 pm

[QUOTE=Athena]Why would this thread be closed?[/QUOTE]

I don't disagree with you

, however, Cuch and I had a discussion working on the effects of illegal substances on society, and got stomped for it. I'm assuming the same will happen to this as soon as a mod sees it. Advanced warning, that's all.

As to my opinions...the only reason is hasn't been legalized is this:

1. Marijuana can grow just about anywhere. They couldn't make it legal, and then sell it because people could just remove the grass from their lawns and replant with marijuana plants. Hence, no tax money from it.

2. It would most likely cut into Tobacco and Alcohol sales, and the companies involved would lose money, and therefore politicians would lose a percentage of their bribes.

3. It would affect the sales of prescription drugs, and therefore again cut into the pockets of the politicians being payed off to allow many of the prescription drugs that are out to be pushed on anyone who's willing to buy them.

As for why it should be....

1. I only know 1 person who's ever done anything "wrong" to get marijuana simply to have it. I've known plenty of alcoholics or cigarette smokers who turn into nasty people when they are lacking either substance.

2. If cigarettes are proven to kill you, and can be smoked, and marijuana can be smoked, and has similar negative side effects, shouldn't the choice be available too?

3. It has properties which are beneficial, such as it's anti-nausia properties, helping with anxiety and glocoma. Which is more than I can say for many of the prescription drugs I was forced to take by "doctors".

4. I have yet to hear of someone die of overdose from using it.

OneWingedAngel · Post by **OneWingedAngel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:25 pm

[QUOTE=Athena]Seriously, being criminalized for marijuana charges ruins good people's lives. It should be decriminalized.[/QUOTE]

I like that you spoke your mind. This is speak your mind forum and not many people do that when it comes to drugs. Just please be honest.

Athena · Post by **Athena** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:26 pm

Umm, Lui, where is your line between drugs and medicine?

OneWingedAngel · Post by **OneWingedAngel** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:29 pm

[QUOTE=Magrus]I don't disagree with you

, however, Cuch and I had a discussion working on the effects of illegal substances on society, and got stomped for it. I'm assuming the same will happen to this as soon as a mod sees it. Advanced warning, that's all.

As to my opinions...the only reason is hasn't been legalized is this:

1. Marijuana can grow just about anywhere. They couldn't make it legal, and then sell it because people could just remove the grass from their lawns and replant with marijuana plants. Hence, no tax money from it.

2. It would most likely cut into Tobacco and Alcohol sales, and the companies involved would lose money, and therefore politicians would lose a percentage of their bribes.

3. It would affect the sales of prescription drugs, and therefore again cut into the pockets of the politicians being payed off to allow many of the prescription drugs that are out to be pushed on anyone who's willing to buy them.

As for why it should be....

1. I only know 1 person who's ever done anything "wrong" to get marijuana simply to have it. I've known plenty of alcoholics or cigarette smokers who turn into nasty people when they are lacking either substance.

2. If cigarettes are proven to kill you, and can be smoked, and marijuana can be smoked, and has similar negative side effects, shouldn't the choice be available too?

3. It has properties which are beneficial, such as it's anti-nausia properties, helping with anxiety and glocoma. Which is more than I can say for many of the prescription drugs I was forced to take by "doctors".

4. I have yet to hear of someone die of overdose from using it.[/QUOTE]

Good points, but why dont they legalize Marijuana and put tax on it? I mean like anyones gonna admit they grow it, or something. Put tax on the plant, or something. and worry about worse drugs.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:30 pm

[QUOTE=Athena]Umm, Lui, where is your line between drugs and medicine?

[/QUOTE]

Its where lies the line between something being effectivelly approved for use and something that is not allowed due to potential risk, no matter how small it is. Weed makes people happy? I dont know. Weed is a door for other drugs? I dont know. Is it legal? No, therefore not for me. Its like downloading software without paying for it: Its addictive. But not for me. Somewhere in the chain of commerce someones gets screwed. Someone gets down. Something happens. And something is wrong with it. So, no legal, no use.