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Do you consider dudley as cheating?

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Do you consider dudley as cheating?

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I have played through Nashkel mines with dudleyfix installed.
I did not encounter any bugs or glitches. Do I did notice some changes in the game. Some dialouges and new NPC's telling you where to find those hidden items.

Just wondering.
Do you think using Dudleyfix equals cheating?
Cause I'm starting to wonder if I should restart without Dudleyfix, just because it does not seem any other are playing with dudleyfix installed. :confused:
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What's a Dudley Fix?
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Did I say druid?
I'm a super-mage ffs! :D
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Post by Ravager »

It looks more like BGTutu which is supposed to be a conversion without extra features. Chaeating, in my opinion, would be using the CLUA console to get yourself items, gold or XP when you could earn them instead.
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Post by Caxen »

Roger Ravager!

Roger that Ravager! =E
I will continue to play, I guess is does not count as cheating.
I just hate all the small glitches in BG and Dudley was the only pack that fixed so many glitches.

Thank you! :D
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[QUOTE=Caxen]Do you think using Dudleyfix equals cheating?
Cause I'm starting to wonder if I should restart without Dudleyfix, just because it does not seem any other are playing with dudleyfix installed. :confused: [/QUOTE]Even if nobody else was using it, why couldn't you? Any mod, patch or fix that makes me enjoy a game more is fine by me.
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Post by Caxen »

Well, I've allways been kinda... errrr, how do you say? Honest or well I don't want to cheat in any way. I want to be able to say I finnished Baldur's Gate!
Not like, I've finnished Baldur's Gate with my edited character whom I killed Firebead with 100 times and got at level 9 before I left Candlekeep!

I think your'e getting the point. :P
I just want the game to be as hard for as for anyone else, but not because of glitches.
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Post by Faust »

It seems to be mainly a fix patch. None of the listed features are really cheating. Even the feature you mention, i.e. pointing you to hidden cache's, is really cheating (particularly since you probably know where they are, anyway). If you find the fixes useful, I'd keep using it. However, I'd be interested to hear what parts of the mod you are having qualms with.
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Post by Laurelei »

Fixes vs. tweaks

Personally I wouldn't consider dudleyfix (as advertised-I haven't used it myself because I encountered problems with it very early on in the game) or baldurdash fixpack as cheating. These mods attempt to fix known problems within the game itself, but they are not designed to give the player advantages that are unreasonable or (in the case of Baldurdash fixes for sure) not intended by the designers. "God" mods, Gatekeeper and CluaConsole (unless used to get past a bug) *are* cheating, in my opinion, but then again, what's gonna happen? Are the RPG police going to come banging on your door? I think not...in the end, whatever makes your game experience more enjoyable to you is really the point.

Baldurdash (http://www.baldurdash.org) is the best thing ever, in my opinion, for both BG1 and BG:SoA/ToB. In fact, I daresay I probably would not even attempt either game without them at this point, and I've finished them both several times. I had problems with dudleyfix and reinstalled without it, but that's just my experience.
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Post by krunchyfrogg »

Whoa, how do you kill Firebead more than once? ;)
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Post by JackOfClubs »

Gatekeeper and CluaConsole are not necessarily cheating, since they are sometimes the only tools available to fix a problem. But they can be used to cheat in ways that Baldurdash cannot.

@krunchyfrogg: Kill him, export the character and start a new game with the exported character. Repeat as often as you like. You will keep any XP or items from prior "games". IMHO this is a feature that should be disabled for new games as it makes little sense to start the game with an imported character.
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Post by krunchyfrogg »

ok, that IS cheating...
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[QUOTE=Caxen]I think your'e getting the point. :P
I just want the game to be as hard for as for anyone else, but not because of glitches.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I do get your point... I know of quite a few people who ruined their gameplay with cheats and stuff. And I guess it's kind of hard to go back to non-cheating afterwards. "Sigh, what a bother, I could just CLUA in Marek's antidote..." :)
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Post by Ravager »

If you don't like certain parts of a mod and consider them a 'cheat' you can always avoid them. It just takes superior willpower... :p
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Post by Ravager »

If you don't like certain parts of a mod and consider them a 'cheat' you can always avoid them. It just takes superior willpower... :p

I would recommend you try BGTutu as well, which seems similar to Dudleyfix and improves on the interface which could always be a pain ;) . I don't think it adds anything to the storyline like Dudleyfix seems to either, so you could try uninstalling that and installing Tutu if you want (though both may be able to work together).
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