good sword, neutral sword or evil sword?

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 5:27 pm

which of these swords would you say that is most popular?

Daystar..the good sword..bringing the ligth of the heavens and smiting evil and undead

The Equalizer...cutting of the extremes of the universe..and keeping the mind of the bearer in place

Blackrazor..the evil sword that steals the life of others..transfering it as incredible gain for yourself for a short time..and also protects the mind

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 5:29 pm

Daystar .

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 5:30 pm

Blackrazor rulez!

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Step in shadow, you are prey, pray you live to see the day.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:07 pm

None of the above! I will by pass all, brave the periolous hidden quest of BG2!
After going to the Asylum, you can meet a rare person while wandering the streets of the slums. His name will be Gore. He will introduce you to his friend Al, and that will set the quest! After braving the halls of Government, you will warp several, unmentionable, people to the land of Faerun. They will, in turn, send you on a quest to retrieve their mystical utensials of the kitchen. By exploring deep into presidential recount offices, you will find the Mystic Fork of the Carnie. That is my weapon of choice...

(please excuss any ramblings I may do. I am quite insane...)

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Courage is Bravery,
Bravery is Courage,
Children are Flamable

rapier · Post by **rapier** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:09 pm

Absolutly, this has to be the ULTIMATE ´WEAPON!!!!

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Step in shadow, left a husk, killed in moments after dusk.
Step in shadow, you are prey, pray you live to see the day.

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:14 pm

*smirks* perhaps the butter knife of baluran would be more fitting.....please keep on track of the discussion

Grimm Battlebones · Post by **Grimm Battlebones** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:30 pm

Depends who you are fighting at the time. Clearly, the Daystar and the Mace of Disruption are good against undead, but against say Firkaag it may not be the weapon of choice. My point is to not be quick to sell swords after a certain battle. You never know when you'll face a similar enemy later on in the game.

It seems to me that you guys haven't had the privilage of adventuring with the +5 Holy Adventurer. It's almost taking the fun out of the game. Another one to keep your eye on is Valygar with his "family" scimitar. I believe the weapon speed on this is something like zero, and he deals out MEGA damage with it. Pretty smokin'!!!!

GB

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:35 pm

That depends.
If you are a Paladin - Hollier-that-the-Gods avenger.
If you going afther some undead -Daystar
If your enemy is LE or LG - Equalizer
personly I like the adjba -The driker.

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:39 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lucian:
please keep on track of the discussion

I believe Lucian asked which of the three would you say is most popular.

Not the Best.

Sorry i posted again Lucian.

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 6:39 pm

equalizer gives best damage to chaotic evil and lawfull good.

overall ill say that the combo of celestial fury and blackrazor is pretty lethal..and then having the sunblade equiped in another weapon slot to access its sunray ability

Seabass · Post by **Seabass** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 7:59 pm

Yeah I just passed the game as a paladin... and I was equipped with three swords:
The Carsomyr
The Equalizer
The Silver Sword
All of these three are good depending on the situations.. Carsomyr against mages etc because of the handy dispel magic.
Also I found the Celestial Fury to be a wicked weapon in early-mid game, even though not a sword, it has great features like stunning people on succesful hits...
I tried to get all of the forgable items this time around...
The Wave was a killer weapon, even though none of my guys really had any Halberd proficiency, a damn shame....
Crom Fayer kicks ass

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 9:04 pm

By the way there is none Good,neutral or evil sword in the game. these swords aren´t limited to aligment nor the they swith your aligment to good, neutral or evil. But Blackrazor is on real AD&D a Evil sword that chances your aligment to Evil. It comes from Greyhawk campain setting (The Return to White Plume Mountain).

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

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Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 9:10 pm

i just tried to point out what swords that where closest linked to other alignments..equalized is obvious..i would have said carsomyr for good..but it is a paladin only blade..severely limiting who who may use it....i think daystar easilly takes the role

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 9:22 pm

Mystic Fork! Mystic Fork! Mystic Fork! Or, if you are feeling different, perhaps the Vampirec Spoon might suit your tastes. But listen to me all, Ignore the so called power swords of BG2, the Utensials of the Kitchen are so much better!

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Courage is Bravery,
Bravery is Courage,
Children are Flamable

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 9:24 pm

Shut up aegis, its the second time you fire nonsense

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 10:04 pm

Well...Yes.And I was just trying to tell somethings about Ad&D, most of the things In the Game are oversimplefied. For example you just give me a good one, Carsomyr It´s a holy avenger. now a holy avenger acts like a normal sword (in P&P AD&D) until a paladin use one, no one besides a paladin get´s a 50% magic resistance, but can still use a weapon +2 bonus even if he isn´t a paladin. another is the Machine of Lum the Mad. it´s a artifact, artifacts are very dificult to put on campains but bioware was able to intergate the machine on the game, still there are so many things on this very artifact that can be used, and it´s a pity that many people pass by it( like myself).
I am not saying that everting is wrong on this game but some people who play and know Ad&D recognize that some thing still nead improve(like getting blackrazor before chaper 4, change to evil and get artifact possesion).

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

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Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 10:12 pm

the machine of Lum the mad? would you care to elaborate on that? i remember from planescape torment, that the transcendent one said that the nameless one once had been dancing sorceries with Lum the mad

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 10:14 pm

Damn, the things I miss when I don't finish one of my games... Was the end of Torment good? If so, I'm gonna re-install it after I'm done BG2... By the way, Sorry Lucien, I won't stray off like that again....

Lucian · Post by **Lucian** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 10:21 pm

yes, good but strange...but you really gotta find the story...i can offer these 2 hints to find to places with lots of story information that are easy to miss....find the severed arm in the dismered crypt and bring it to the tatoist..and have Dak'kon translate..that will bring up an interesting chain of events..and be sure to have the speak to dead ability...
Xachariah is on the bottom floor of the mortuary

the second thing..inside the fortress of regrets, you will find a small room filled with statues..examine them all, you will find a cache at once..and a recording stone..that holds a lot of info..that builds on other story threads

Drakron Du´Dark · Post by **Drakron Du´Dark** » Sun Dec 31, 2000 11:08 pm

This is going to be a long one, so get ready.
the Machine of Lum the Mad can be fund in the asylum. if you get Teleported to a room were 4 people are sitting and FAIL the correct answer of the last,one you will get there ( It´s on the walktrue).
From the Book of Artifacts.
page 53
"....
History

The Machine of Lum the Mad dates back to an age before recorded history.Its design and workmanship are quite singular,making it impossible to guess at its origins.There is strong evidence connecting the origins of this device with the Mighty Servant of Leuk-o,but these may be apocryphal.
The recorded history of this device begins long ago with the infamous tyrant from whow it draws its mane,Baron Lum.Lum was a power-hungry general who happened upon the device during one of his conquests.Prior to his acquisition of the thing,Lum was a petty warlord whose legacy would certainly have been lost.With the aid of the Machine,however,he wrote himself a bloody chapter of wars and brutality into mankind´s history.
By all accounts,Lum was something of an artificer himself.While the creation of the machine was certainly beyond his skills,he was apparently able to learn more about its functioning than even the wisest sage might hope to.It may be that the study of the basic workings of the machine(which combines magic and technology in way the two were never meant to be merged,by techniques and secrets long[and best]forgotten)drove Lum to madness.It is said that Lum unleashed no fewer than 50 new species of monsters on the world in his quest to master the Machine. at one point,it is said,Lum used the settings on the Machine to call down a barrage that decimated an army besieging his stronghold.In so doing,of course,he annihilated a large number of his own troops.However,he carried the day and, as such,he judged the event a great victory.
Lum´s chapter in the history of the Machine ends with both the warlord and his device being consumed by a cloud of vapor which billowed forth from nothing and left nothing when it faded.It would be easy to assume that the Machine was forever destroyed, were not for persistent though garbled reports of its existence in a distant and dreadful land.
..."
it´s a diferent Lum or...
sorry. by the time i finish righting all of this someone have give you the info.
sorry too to go off topic.
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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

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