About Thavian Red Wizards

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:39 am

I was wondering if someone could explain me why this group is pursuited all over Athkatla. All I know about them is what I found out about Edwin - he told me that they're not very fond of the Cowled Wizards and it's better not to reveal themselves. But why is that?

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:35 am

Because the Cowled Wizards hate magic-users who aren't Cowled Wizards themselves and Edwin is an evil magic-user from a land of evil magic-users?

(It's Thayvian btw

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Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:12 am

ThaYvian, thanks

OK, I put it this way, then: why do the CWs hate other magic users?

(Nothing special about the thayvians at all?)

SP101 · Post by **SP101** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:37 am

They don't really "Hate" them, because without other mages, they would'nt have any job in Amn at all! They need rebel wizards to imprison, slay or track down.

moltovir · Post by **moltovir** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:16 am

I think they want to be the most powerful group of magic users, and therefore have acquired the right (with a lot of bribes and under-the-table-politics probably) to imprison all who they see as a danger to their power. Plus it keeps the normal folk happy, because the Cowled Wizards have spread the false ideas that all magic-users are deviants and dangerous to the existence of mankind.

If you look at them this way, they seem very similar to the nazi's, don't you think?

The Jester · Post by **The Jester** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:48 pm

The Cowleds Wizards are a secretive group of magic user who installed false laws in Amn to be the only Wizards to access to magic so they can control the city of Athkatla.As Moltovir said, they are well loved by citizens because they keep law and order in city, accepting bribes and illpayments usually.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:31 am

I see. What you said makes me feel like teaching them all a lesson... Wonder what would happen if I eliminated the whole group...?

nephtu · Post by **nephtu** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:38 am

Hah

[QUOTE=Brynn]I see. What you said makes me feel like teaching them all a lesson... Wonder what would happen if I eliminated the whole group...?[/QUOTE]
De facto magic license - you save 5000 gold, and get some cash and prizes.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:02 am

Sounds a good deal, then. I just can't stand mages who think they're better than me

Ekental · Post by **Ekental** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:45 pm

Thayvians are a group of evil wizards in the forgotten realms setting. They do the slave-trading thingy, the child selling thingy, evil-magic for power thingy, generally everything you associate with "evil" magic, the red wizards generally facilitate or practice. Thats why obnoxiously good people like paladins, Drizz't, etc etc etc tend to dislike them, often going out of their way to attack and kill them (surely to end their evil schemes and make the world a better place)
As for killing the cowled wizards, there are lots of threads on how to exploit the cruddy AI gifted to wizards to easily kill them. Though there are mods that make this harder... I'm thinkin of 2 in particular
Just one example:
SPOILER
If you press "dual-class" on yoshimo, and click cancel after you enter the second class selection screen, he gets all his traps back, hence you can use this to lay traps for them no matter how few points you have in lay traps skill.

Brynn · Post by **Brynn** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:30 pm

IC! Now that's a better description. See, if I knew that, I would'ce thought over picking Edwin... I know he's evil, of course, but didn't know that his group is trading children.