Can someone please help me sort this out?
Can someone please help me sort this out?
I have just started playing RPG for my computer but am very confused. I would like a list of all AD&D and D&D games for my computer and I would like to play them in order? Including their expansions. I have Baldurs gate and Icewind Dale? Can anyone help me here with a list. Is morrowind one of them? Or is Greyhawk. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Ummm...lemme think:
Icewind Dale
Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter (Expansion for IWD)
Icewind Dale II
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate: Tales of The Swordcoast (Expansion for BG)
Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhall (Expansion for BG2)
Neverwinter Nights
These are the ones I can remember on the top of my head. But I guess that already something to start on
Icewind Dale
Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter (Expansion for IWD)
Icewind Dale II
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate: Tales of The Swordcoast (Expansion for BG)
Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhall (Expansion for BG2)
Neverwinter Nights
These are the ones I can remember on the top of my head. But I guess that already something to start on
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Mudhoney: (great band by the way) welcome to the forum.
Morrowind isn't D&D
as for some good D&D games:
Baldur's gate 1 + expension
Baldur's gate 2 + expension (ToB is almost a BG 3)
Icewind dale + 2 expensions
But I guess you have those mentioned above
Planescape torment: Great D&D RPG, one of the best RPG's around
Neverwinter Nights (3d edition rules): Great grafix, and with the ability to create you're own story, or be a dungeon master, the ultimate D&D experience on the PC. But me personally like the BG perspective more, and in NWN you can only control 1 character
Icewind Dale 2: My new faforite, I realy like that they use the old engine (not 3d perspective) and I realy like the 3d edition rules in this game.
Although it's more linear then BG / Planescape
These are all the D&D RPG's I can come up with at this time
Morrowind isn't D&D
as for some good D&D games:
Baldur's gate 1 + expension
Baldur's gate 2 + expension (ToB is almost a BG 3)
Icewind dale + 2 expensions
But I guess you have those mentioned above
Planescape torment: Great D&D RPG, one of the best RPG's around
Neverwinter Nights (3d edition rules): Great grafix, and with the ability to create you're own story, or be a dungeon master, the ultimate D&D experience on the PC. But me personally like the BG perspective more, and in NWN you can only control 1 character
Icewind Dale 2: My new faforite, I realy like that they use the old engine (not 3d perspective) and I realy like the 3d edition rules in this game.
Although it's more linear then BG / Planescape
These are all the D&D RPG's I can come up with at this time
I do not have the touch, nor do I have the power.
I am a heathen! Burn me!
How could I forget Planescape?!
Kill me please, someone
Btw, my favorite one of the mentioned so far must be Baldur's Gate 2.
Nothing compares.
Planescape: Torment is also very good if you like to read a lot and get really sucked into the plot. Very good story
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor, is also a D&D RPG. But it kinda sucks
How could I forget Planescape?!
Kill me please, someone
Btw, my favorite one of the mentioned so far must be Baldur's Gate 2.
Nothing compares.
Planescape: Torment is also very good if you like to read a lot and get really sucked into the plot. Very good story
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor, is also a D&D RPG. But it kinda sucks
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Here is the order in which I would play them:
Play Baldur's Gate with the expansion, Tales of the Sword Coast, installed. (In other words, don't start playing it unless you have already installed the expansion.) Baldur's Gate was the first game on the market that used the Infinity Engine. The story is pretty good, and you'll pick up some fairly good playing skills along the way. After playing some of the other games, it might seem limited and a bit primitive in comparison, but it has plenty of strong points, and it will always be a great game. It's a great introduction to D&D on the computer.
Then you can play Icewind Dale with the two expansion packs, Heart of Winter and Trials of the Luremaster. (If I misspelled the names, please pardon me.) I haven't actually played this game, but from what I know about it, I think it would be best to play it after you have played Baldur's Gate and before you play Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, mostly because there are new monsters and new spells. You won't be playing the same character that you played in Baldur's Gate, and the story takes place in a different part of the world.
Then you can play Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn. It continues the story that was begun in the original Baldur's Gate, and you can use the same character you had before. I think you'll enjoy being back in the saddle with your old character. But be forwarned: it doesn't exactly give you a chance to "feel comfortable"; in fact, you'll always be faced with some kind of problem or some kind of obstacle. That's just the way things are for your character. Shadows of Amn has better NPC dialogue than Baldur's Gate, and your characters will become more powerful than you can imagine. It just gets better and better.
The expansion pack, Throne of Bhaal, can almost be considered a whole new game. You can either install it before you start playing Shadows of Amn or after you have finished Shadows of Amn. Personally, I think you should wait until after you have finished Shadows of Amn before you install it. You'll have a lot to learn when you first start playing Shadows of Amn, and it's best to keep things simple the first time around. There are also issues of game balance. After you play the games, you'll probably see what I mean. If you replay Shadows of Amn at a later date, then you can play it with the expansion pack installed, and that's what I recommend.
That's the end of the Baldur's Gate series. But keep in mind that you could replay them several times. As many of us could tell you, they're addictive. You could also install some MODs. MODs typically add new characters, dialogue, quests, and items. I recommend the Ascension MOD; other people will make other recommendations, as well.
After playing Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, I went back and replayed Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast. Perhaps you might want to do the same thing. It was very interesting and very fun. One difference, though, was that the combat seemed a whole lot easier than it did originally, since my playing skills had improved so much. You'll be using spells, scrolls, potions, and items a lot more effectively than you did the first time you played Baldur's Gate. Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal will do that to you.
After you finish the Baldur's Gate series, Planescape: Torment would be a significant change of pace. It's D&D, and it uses the Infinity Engine, but it feels quite a bit different from Baldur's Gate. The story takes place in a different kind of universe (it seems really bizarre at first), you're not under attack all the time, and there's a great deal of text (instead of combat) to keep you occupied. It's a lot like reading a novel (a mystery novel). Whether you'll enjoy it depends on your own playing style, but a lot of us loved it.
After that, you can go back to the old combat-based games amd have a blast. Icewind Dale 2 is a natural choice. It's still fairly new. It's the last game based on the Infinity Engine. For a new twist, it uses some of the "3E" (3rd Edition) rules of D&D. As a result, it will change the way your characters develop. It's a pretty good game. By the time you start playing IWD2, there might be an expansion pack. (I hope there's one.)
I haven't played Neverwinter Nights. From what I understand, it's a true "3rd Edition" game. Furthermore, it doesn't use the old Infinity Engine. I suppose it feels a lot different from the Infinity Engine games we've been talking about. Therefore, I would play it last. Other than that, I can't really comment on it.
Whatever you decide to play, we'll be happy to give you tips, if you like.
Play Baldur's Gate with the expansion, Tales of the Sword Coast, installed. (In other words, don't start playing it unless you have already installed the expansion.) Baldur's Gate was the first game on the market that used the Infinity Engine. The story is pretty good, and you'll pick up some fairly good playing skills along the way. After playing some of the other games, it might seem limited and a bit primitive in comparison, but it has plenty of strong points, and it will always be a great game. It's a great introduction to D&D on the computer.
Then you can play Icewind Dale with the two expansion packs, Heart of Winter and Trials of the Luremaster. (If I misspelled the names, please pardon me.) I haven't actually played this game, but from what I know about it, I think it would be best to play it after you have played Baldur's Gate and before you play Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, mostly because there are new monsters and new spells. You won't be playing the same character that you played in Baldur's Gate, and the story takes place in a different part of the world.
Then you can play Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn. It continues the story that was begun in the original Baldur's Gate, and you can use the same character you had before. I think you'll enjoy being back in the saddle with your old character. But be forwarned: it doesn't exactly give you a chance to "feel comfortable"; in fact, you'll always be faced with some kind of problem or some kind of obstacle. That's just the way things are for your character.
Shadows of Amn has better NPC dialogue than Baldur's Gate, and your characters will become more powerful than you can imagine. It just gets better and better. The expansion pack, Throne of Bhaal, can almost be considered a whole new game. You can either install it before you start playing Shadows of Amn or after you have finished Shadows of Amn. Personally, I think you should wait until after you have finished Shadows of Amn before you install it. You'll have a lot to learn when you first start playing Shadows of Amn, and it's best to keep things simple the first time around. There are also issues of game balance. After you play the games, you'll probably see what I mean. If you replay Shadows of Amn at a later date, then you can play it with the expansion pack installed, and that's what I recommend.
That's the end of the Baldur's Gate series. But keep in mind that you could replay them several times. As many of us could tell you, they're addictive.
You could also install some MODs. MODs typically add new characters, dialogue, quests, and items. I recommend the Ascension MOD; other people will make other recommendations, as well.After playing Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, I went back and replayed Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast. Perhaps you might want to do the same thing. It was very interesting and very fun. One difference, though, was that the combat seemed a whole lot easier than it did originally, since my playing skills had improved so much. You'll be using spells, scrolls, potions, and items a lot more effectively than you did the first time you played Baldur's Gate. Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal will do that to you.
After you finish the Baldur's Gate series, Planescape: Torment would be a significant change of pace. It's D&D, and it uses the Infinity Engine, but it feels quite a bit different from Baldur's Gate. The story takes place in a different kind of universe (it seems really bizarre at first), you're not under attack all the time, and there's a great deal of text (instead of combat) to keep you occupied. It's a lot like reading a novel (a mystery novel). Whether you'll enjoy it depends on your own playing style, but a lot of us loved it.
After that, you can go back to the old combat-based games amd have a blast. Icewind Dale 2 is a natural choice. It's still fairly new. It's the last game based on the Infinity Engine. For a new twist, it uses some of the "3E" (3rd Edition) rules of D&D. As a result, it will change the way your characters develop. It's a pretty good game. By the time you start playing IWD2, there might be an expansion pack. (I hope there's one.)
I haven't played Neverwinter Nights. From what I understand, it's a true "3rd Edition" game. Furthermore, it doesn't use the old Infinity Engine. I suppose it feels a lot different from the Infinity Engine games we've been talking about. Therefore, I would play it last. Other than that, I can't really comment on it.
Whatever you decide to play, we'll be happy to give you tips, if you like.
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Re: mods for BG2/TOB
Interesting new character mods:
Tashia
Solaufein
Kelsey
Valen
Though you will likely want to play the game through before incorporating new NPC's (party members in addition to the one you have created)
Interesting new character mods:
Tashia
Solaufein
Kelsey
Valen
Though you will likely want to play the game through before incorporating new NPC's (party members in addition to the one you have created)
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I would have to agree with the endorsments of all the games on the 'Pro' lists, except NWN. The only (and I do mean the only) redeeming factor it has, is the online factor, and even that is severly lacking in what was promised initially by Bioware. The graphics are sub-par, with an outdated engine, and it is not true 3rd ed. rules. In fact, many of the rules have been butchered to a point were it is no more then a Diablo-esque RPG (curse Blizzard for doing that to the genre! ). The only reason I picked NWN is because I found it cheap (discount bin, surrounded by about eight other copies of the game, each for $15, Canadian!), and the only reason I played it was to see what the fuss was about, and to write my review (which Buck still hasn't posted ). Only if you find a good community of players will the game be worthwhile, and even that is a rare find, as most people believe games like EverQuest, and Diablo are good examples of RPG's.
Anyway, this ends my rant.
). The only reason I picked NWN is because I found it cheap (discount bin, surrounded by about eight other copies of the game, each for $15, Canadian!), and the only reason I played it was to see what the fuss was about, and to write my review (which Buck still hasn't posted ). Only if you find a good community of players will the game be worthwhile, and even that is a rare find, as most people believe games like EverQuest, and Diablo are good examples of RPG's.Anyway, this ends my rant.
Mudhoney, there's one more thing. Don't read anything about BG2: Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal before you have finished playing Baldur's Gate. When you play Baldur's Gate, you don't know who your enemies are, and even more important, you don't know who your parents are--which means you don't know who YOU are and why anyone wants to kill you. The mystery really adds to the appeal. If you read anything about Shadows of Amn or Throne of Bhaal, it WILL SPOIL Baldur's Gate for you. By "spoil", I mean that it will give away secrets, or "spoilers". When we post messages in the game forums, we're supposed to warn people if our posts include any "spoilers". However, when anybody talks about Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal, they can't avoid talking about things that are "secret" in Baldur's Gate. So I suggest that you just stay away from any messages, reviews, etc. about Shadows of Amn until after you have finished playing Baldur's Gate.
If you buy Shadows of Amn or Throne of Bhaal, don't read the back of the box. In fact, I suggest that you don't read the back of the box AT ALL until you have finished playing ALL of the games. For example, there's a really bad-ass monster in Throne of Bhaal that you probably never would have expected to see, and you don't find out what it is until you actually meet it in the game. It's a wonderful surprise. (Sort of wonderful, anyway. I jumped out of my seat.) But the box gives away the identity of the monster. Huh?! Don't read the box! Just believe it when we tell you that the monster is REALLY cool. That's all you need to know. I don't understand why the boxes have so many spoilers on them, unless the marketing department thought it would increase sales. Maybe it does, but it ticks me off.
Some people like spoilers. Some people also like to read the script and watch crappy bootleg copies of movies like Star Wars on their computers before they can watch the real thing in a theater the way it was meant to be seen. To me, that ruins the experience. To each his own. If you want to know how the game ends before you've even started playing it, I don't have a problem with that, but if you DON'T want to know how Baldur's Gate ends before you finish playing it, then take my advice.
If you buy Shadows of Amn or Throne of Bhaal, don't read the back of the box. In fact, I suggest that you don't read the back of the box AT ALL until you have finished playing ALL of the games. For example, there's a really bad-ass monster in Throne of Bhaal that you probably never would have expected to see, and you don't find out what it is until you actually meet it in the game. It's a wonderful surprise. (Sort of wonderful, anyway. I jumped out of my seat.)
But the box gives away the identity of the monster. Huh?! Don't read the box! Just believe it when we tell you that the monster is REALLY cool. That's all you need to know. I don't understand why the boxes have so many spoilers on them, unless the marketing department thought it would increase sales. Maybe it does, but it ticks me off. Some people like spoilers. Some people also like to read the script and watch crappy bootleg copies of movies like Star Wars on their computers before they can watch the real thing in a theater the way it was meant to be seen. To me, that ruins the experience. To each his own. If you want to know how the game ends before you've even started playing it, I don't have a problem with that, but if you DON'T want to know how Baldur's Gate ends before you finish playing it, then take my advice.