Temper ! Temper ! (mildly spamable)

KidD01 · Post by **KidD01** » Wed May 15, 2002 10:27 am

An acquaintance of mine have a temper which might require a huge toned down. He easily got upset on things. Example if he's got upset while he's driving he started to throw tantrum by doing most unpleasant moves when he drives into corners so the car passengers feel tilted a bit due the steep cornering moves

He's far much overweighted that my ZX 900 feels like carrying 3 sacks of cement

Is there any connection with a person diet, over-weight problem and the temperament ?

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Wed May 15, 2002 10:40 am

Originally posted by KidD01

Is there any connection with a person diet, over-weight problem and the temperament ?

I wouldn't think it would. I'm not over weight and have a serious Temper problem...Or I could be just crazy and not figure in the equation.

McBane · Post by **McBane** » Wed May 15, 2002 11:59 am

I used to have a lot of problems with my temper when I was younger. I had lost my mother at an early age and my sorrow was quickly replaced with anger. It wasn't until I came to grips with my loss that my temper subsided. (About 15 years later

)

Perhaps your friend has some issues he needs to deal with.

Can temper be a genetic trait? I have an in-law who had a violent temper, and one of his sons is exactly like him. Although one can argue that the temper is a learned behavior. Hmm...I don't know if this helps or confuses...***looks for CE to help explain**

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:34 pm

No. But I would be wary having him on the back of my ZX900 if he is in such a mood that dictate his own driving skills

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:39 pm

Originally posted by McBane
Can temper be a genetic trait? I have an in-law who had a violent temper, and one of his sons is exactly like him. Although one can argue that the temper is a learned behavior. Hmm...I don't know if this helps or confuses...***looks for CE to help explain**

Heh, I'm currently working on a scientific article about the genetic and biological basis for personality traits

In brief:

A persons personality traits can be divided into basic and higher order traits, where basic traits cover general things anxiety proneness, extraversion-introversion, ability to inhibit impulses etc. These are very basic and can't be used to predict a specific persons behaviour in a given situation, but they can tell us someting about who might belong to a "risk group" or will be vulnerable to develop certain types of problems. Twin and adoption studies as well as genetic linkage studies support a strong genetic influence for those basic traits. This does not mean than learned behaviour doesn't matter, learning is still the most important factor in why we are as we are.

How easily a person becomes angry (if we define angry as an inner state of mind) is farily basic and genetics probably play a big role here, however, how the aggression is expressed by the angry person is most likely a learned behaviour.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:42 pm

Originally posted by KidD01
Is there any connection with a person diet, over-weight problem and the temperament ?

Not as far as I have ever heard, but I wouldn't exclude that a background factor like a personality variable, could make a certain individual more prone to both overeating and having a bad temper - could be related to having difficulties to control impulses. This is mere speculation though.

McBane · Post by **McBane** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:47 pm

Originally posted by C Elegans

Heh, I'm currently working on a scientific article about the genetic and biological basis for personality traits In brief:

A persons personality traits can be divided into basic and higher order traits, where basic traits cover general things anxiety proneness, extraversion-introversion, ability to inhibit impulses etc. These are very basic and can't be used to predict a specific persons behaviour in a given situation, but they can tell us someting about who might belong to a "risk group" or will be vulnerable to develop certain types of problems. Twin and adoption studies as well as genetic linkage studies support a strong genetic influence for those basic traits. This does not mean than learned behaviour doesn't matter, learning is still the most important factor in why we are as we are.

How easily a person becomes angry (if we define angry as an inner state of mind) is farily basic and genetics probably play a big role here, however, how the aggression is expressed by the angry person is most likely a learned behaviour.

Thanks CE!

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:49 pm

A musical artist by the name of Tricky was at one time an extremely paranoid and angry fellow, until he altered his diet to level him out.

Apparently there is some connection, i don't know the exacts but i have heard about diet effecting temprament

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:52 pm

Originally posted by Mr Sleep

A musical artist by the name of Tricky was at one time an extremely paranoid and angry fellow, until he altered his diet to level him out.

Apparently there is some connection, i don't know the exacts but i have heard about diet effecting temprament

I believe that diet does affect temperament, my six y/o has allergies (you should see him after having cocoa based cereal). I am not so sure that being overweight does though

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:53 pm

Both my partner and I have truly nasty tempers and neither of us are overweight. Just based on our respective family histories I would be more inclined to think it is related to genetics...... However, for fear of sounding like an academic ....

, the subject is very far from my area.....

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Wed May 15, 2002 1:58 pm

I come from a line of people with very short fuses. I believe that anger levels are genetic (I've got too many relatives with too short a fuse). Temper, I believe to be inherited behavior. If you saw your mom or pop blow their stack quite a bit, chances are you will too. Eventually, with experience and age, I think people will generally realize it's not worth it to get all worked up and upset. At least, that's worked for me personally. The thing that really gets me to blow my stack still is when people tell me not to get so upset over something. I'm still extremely stubborn but my temper has subsided quite a bit.

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Wed May 15, 2002 2:08 pm

I have noticed in some of my friends and family who are diabetic that their temperament changes according to their blood sugar levels. I have an uncle who can be downright nasty if he goes too long between meals, but the second you give him a coke or a cookie, he becomes a whole different person. I do not think that temperament has anything to do with body type or physique.

I think that general temperament is genetic, but how people act out is learned. As our friend Ned Flanders says, if you grow up around parents who yell a lot, chances are good you're going to be a yeller, too. The apple don't fall far from the tree.

My wife is a "hot" personality; if something is wrong, you will know it. However, as soon as she says whatever it is she has to say or does whatever it is she needs to do, it's over.

On the other hand I am a "cool" personality. I am not excitable, either in terms of enthusiasm or anger, and I am generally pretty level headed. I consider myself to have a "rolling boil" temper as opposed to a "firecracker" because it takes me a while to get hot, but once I get there, it doesn't stop for a long, long time.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Wed May 15, 2002 2:25 pm

HLD is right on with diabetes comments. My girlfriends father is diabetec and he's had some raging moments. The thing is, we're all acquainted with him well enough we can all pick this out when it is the case. It usually follows with giving him a lot of crap and shoving a snickers and a coke in front of him.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed May 15, 2002 2:34 pm

@HLD, Ned & Ysh: Oh, low blood sugar certainly affects you mood, but not your temperament as I use the word - in research temperament is referring to basic, general temperament as a trait, as opposed to a state. Being more irritable and having mood swings more often because of low blood sugar induced by diabetes or other conditions, would not be called "temperament" in my world

If we talk about things that can affect your mood badly, high pressure caused by overweight as well as diabetes or a diet that makes the blood sugar swing a lot, may result in a person being more irritable.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Wed May 15, 2002 3:20 pm

The guru on behavior puts her foot down once again. Looks like she's got the last word. You want to argue with her, go ahead. I don't want to see get mad or lose her cool.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed May 15, 2002 3:24 pm

Originally posted by Ned Flanders
The guru on behavior puts her foot down once again. Looks like she's got the last word. You want to argue with her, go ahead. I don't want to see get mad or lose her cool.

If it's me you are referring to, I can tell you I have a quite horrible temper - I get angry very easily, and I'm not overweight

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Wed May 15, 2002 3:36 pm

by CE
If it's me you are referring to, I can tell you I have a quite horrible temper - I get angry very easily, and I'm not overweight

Hey, don't click on me! I don't want any trouble.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Wed May 15, 2002 4:05 pm

Excuse me!!!!! But I have the most meanest, vile temper of all!

That is why I'm called the The High Tyrant

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Wed May 15, 2002 6:03 pm

Originally posted by Weasel
Excuse me!!!!! But I have the most meanest, vile temper of all!

That is why I'm called the The High Tyrant

If you repeat that to youreself often enough, you start believing in it.

KidD01 · Post by **KidD01** » Wed May 15, 2002 9:59 pm

Well thanks for the info, peeps

FYI That fella loves to have high colesterol diet.

@Ysh : The fella can't even ride a bike and if my ZX 900 is a horse (not a bike) I'm sure my Aibo would have throw him from its back