Loghaire [spoiler]

[the shape]

Does anyone know exactly how much CHA/persuasion is needed to convince Loghaire to end his exile?



P.S.
And the answer is... less than 2 ranks in persuasion.
So you can still get the fate point even if u don't have the stats convince his son to show u the secret passage.

[doady]

I think the key is intelligence. You need to talk about the Stone and the Shape with his son, and you can only do that with 10 intelligence. That opens up the dialogue options needed to convince Loghaire to end his exile. Whether charisma and persuasion is needed also I don't know. I was able to do it with only 8 charisma and 1 rank of persuasion, though it was it enough to convince his son to reveal the secret passage. But that doesn't matter, as you said.

[TwoHandedSword]

I'm pretty sure it's 11 Intelligence, and either 1 or 2 ranks in Persuasion.

[doady]

I meant to say 10 INT and 1 Persuasion is enough to convince Loghaire, but not enough reveal the secret passage. Yes, I did it recently with those stats.