How to achieve 650 keep score?

Ildun · Post by **Ildun** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:41 am

According to NWN2 wikia, I need 650 keep score to get good ending for my keep. However I still get the bad ending eventhough my Crossroad Keep status is as following:

built building: ALL
peasant: 500++
merchant: 400++
greycloak: 1800++
peasant and greycloak civil: high
peasant and greycloak morale: very high
road and land security: very high
greycloak training: best of the best
weapon and armor: best
sergeant: ALL
other recruited NPC: Deekin, Caelryna, Uncus, Wolf, Ivarr, Joy, Torio, Pentin, Calindra, Orlen, Edario, Jacoby, Kistrel, Mephasm, Lasshiva, Khulma.
Keep time: 100%

Anyone can tell me how to count the score and what is require to achieve 650 point?

Faust · Post by **Faust** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:40 am

I'm really not sure. You might try looking at a Crossroad Keep Guide. Thieves Guild has a very [url="http://www.thieves-guild.net/index.php?pid=144"]nice one[/url].

kgambit · Post by **kgambit** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:39 am

Could you provide a link to the exact page where you saw that reference to the 650 keep score? I just finished checking the wikia guide and couldn't find anything on that.

That being said I believe the problem is with the NPCs you recruited, in particular THESE: Caelryna, Uncus

If you carefully read the Crossroad Keep guide that I wrote, in order to get the GOOD ending (by which I assume you mean the Warden of the Keep epithet) you can NOT recruit Uncus at all, and you can ONLY recruit Caelryna AFTER the sequence triggers where you get the epithet. If you recruit her BEFORE - you are fubared. (you can google fubar wikipedia if you aren't familiar with the term .... :laugh:

If you are talking about the Defender of the Keep epithet, however, that is determined by the number of Greycloak casualties you suffer during the three battles in that sequence.

Ildun wrote:According to NWN2 wikia, I need 650 keep score to get good ending for my keep. However I still get the bad ending eventhough my Crossroad Keep status is as following:
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other recruited NPC: Deekin, Caelryna, Uncus, Wolf, Ivarr, Joy, Torio, Pentin, Calindra, Orlen, Edario, Jacoby, Kistrel, Mephasm, Lasshiva, Khulma.
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Anyone can tell me how to count the score and what is require to achieve 650 point?

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:33 pm

I think Kgambit is right. I've allways gotten the defender of the keep (or whatever), but I've never gotten the other (I've always recruited Uncus and Caelryna).

kgambit · Post by **kgambit** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:08 pm

Okay, I finally found the reference in Wikia:

Official campaign - Neverwinter Nights 2 - NWN2Wiki: your guide to everything Neverwinter Nights 2

it's near the bottom of the page.

I haven't dug through the toolset to see exactly what factors influence that score but (unless you agreed to serve the KoS in which case the answer is obvious) the likely factors are the Defender of the Keep and/or the Warden of the Keep epithets.

Sorry but I simply don't have the time to dig through the toolset for the answer.

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:20 pm

Hmmm... Now that I've read the ending you're talking about, I'm farily certain I've gotten it.

Perhaps the ending is given based on all your choices? Aiding people (quests gotten in CK), recruits (and not recruiting Raven's mercs etc), building your land and so on...

Because I've always had Uncus and Caelryna, and the last time I completet it I'm almost certain I got that particular ending.

kgambit · Post by **kgambit** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:43 pm

Fiberfar wrote: Because I've always had Uncus and Caelryna, and the last time I completet it I'm almost certain I got that particular ending.

If that's true then the warden of the keep epithet has no impact on it, although defender of the keep might.

Ildun · Post by **Ildun** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:47 pm

kgambit wrote:If that's true then the warden of the keep epithet has no impact on it, although defender of the keep might.

I got the defender of the keep feat

My character is chaotic good, so I let Caelryna stay in my keep, provide her shelter and protection and I let Uncus stay is because I heard that only if Uncus stay then I can recruit Caelryna. I also recruit Raven's mercs because instead of making them as threat I rather put them at my side.

The causes I can think of are:

I failed to recruit Guyven the road due to bug

I did not complete all special assignment which only available in certain time period, I think I miss 2 or 3 of them.

My greycloak quality is not elite ( because I do not receive gift from grecloak at the end )

Anyway, I though 650 score is not highest standard whereby I mean I though the max keep score would be 1000 so even I do not achieve best outcome in every circumstances I can still get 650++ score.

Beside this, I cannot get Cormick ending as well although I saved his life. What is mean good standing?

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:39 am

Ildun wrote: I cannot get Cormick ending as well although I saved his life. What is mean good standing?

Raven's allies takes a massive hit to your standing, I believe.
Cormicks good ending requires that you takes his "side" during the dialogue between him and captain Brelania (or whatever she is called). This is just my theory, though.