The gender/race of god

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 8:39 pm

I was sitting here flipping through the channels when I stumbled by a show called "Touched by an Angel." The characters were having a discussion about god and they always referred to god as a he. It seems that god is always portrayed as a white male. For some reason this really pisses me off. Nobody knows for certain if there even is a god let alone its gender and race. Perhaps EMINEM would like to enlighten us on this subject, if not I'm sure somebody else will.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 8:46 pm

Even though I'm Atheist (Who here doesn't know that?

) If I believed in him, I'd picture him a big, burly black guy with a sense of humour, and self-loathing.

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 8:49 pm

I always thought he might look like a cross between John Godman and Shaquile O'neal.

nael · Post by **nael** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 8:52 pm

i liked it on south park where god was that weird hippo looking monster.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 8:59 pm

And Satan looked like a giant red ball, with Saddam Huessan stuck out his posterior?

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 9:03 pm

@Aegis LMAO!

Yanlee · Post by **Yanlee** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 9:15 pm

(Note that this is from a philosophical perspective, not a religious one, as I personally don't believe in god)

god is not human, or an animal as we know them. So why would god have to have a gender? Why does god have to exist in a human-type form?

Presumably god wouldn't have to obey any earthly laws either, so therefore doesn't have to have a gender.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 9:36 pm

Again, philisophical, God is Omnipotent. Thus, has neither gender, race or pinball machine. Although, God is probably quite found of the Woodbines...

Meerlight · Post by **Meerlight** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 9:43 pm

Maybe god has to look like a human because he/she/it created man in his/her/its own image? I read that somewhere in the bible. But then again he supposedly is all powerful so he/she/it could look like anything he/she/it wants. Anyways I am also an athiest and maybe God doesn't have any distinguishing "organs" because he/she/it does not need to reproduce.

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Sun Sep 02, 2001 9:51 pm

If I was god I would become a shower tile. Think of all the interesting things you would see.

Word · Post by **Word** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:39 am

One reason that many people believe that God looks human is because it serves to boost human arrogance towards all other things. Also as a religous ploy to their religon more believable. Since humans always assume that we are superior why would we worship an "inferior" object such as an animal.

EMINEM · Post by **EMINEM** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:57 am

This is how I look at it:

1. Jesus = Male (Matthew 1:1)
2. Jesus = God (John 1:1)

3 Therefore, God = Male

also,

1. Jesus called God "Father" (John 17)
2. Father = Male (Webster's)
3. Therefore, God = Male

From the Biblical POV, it is impossible to see God as being female.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:58 am

Originally posted by Aegis:
Again, philisophical, God is Omnipotent. Thus, has neither gender, race or pinball machine. Although, God is probably quite found of the Woodbines...

LOL

I agree, though, that since god is supposed to be an omnipotent, eternal, infinite and transcendent being, it(?) has no material or physical attributes like gender or skin colour.

And I don't think I need to add that I'm a non believer in gods

Now, where's Eminem when you need him?

EDIT: What a coincidence! Just as I posted this, MM showed up!

Hi MM, sorry I have to rush, a friend's picking me up for dinner I'm preparing a post about how life on earth began and on molecular genetics, I hope to finish it this evening when I come home.

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ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:02 am

Well i call myself god, and i'm male, i guess the god is a he.
Well god can look like anything you want him/her too. Since he/she doesn't exist.

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:42 am

@EMINEM You really believe everything that little book says don't you?

Rob-hin · Post by **Rob-hin** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:45 am

God made man after his own image, when he saw man was getting bored, he made women for man to play with...

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:36 am

Eminem writes:
1. Jesus called God "Father" (John 17)
2. Father = Male (Webster's)
3. Therefore, God = Male

I always understood that the Aramaic word translated as "father" (please excuse me; I don't have it handy at the moment) actually refered to "generative principle" rather than a different word which would be "father." Yes, I know the two are sometimes considered synonomous among humans, but that issue aside, I'm wondering if, when we're discussing a discorporate, universal being, equating this principle to "male" isn't extremely limiting. @Eminem, you have considerable experience in reading and interpreting the bible. What *is* the word used for father, taking into account cultural context?

Can a discorporate universal being that informs everything be said to have genitals? And no, I'm not being facetious. Who are we to put limitations on something which is beyond imagination?

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Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:11 pm

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rapier · Post by **rapier** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:18 pm

Originally posted by Azeroth:


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Mhm?

Azeroth · Post by **Azeroth** » Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:35 pm

Originally posted by rapier:
Mhm?

Got a little carried away with the backspace key. You don't want to know what I said anyway, it was very demeaning to our friend Eminem.