Mr Sleep's Movie Talk
Even a comedy like Galaxy Quest is considered at least partially sci-fi just because of it's setting. I think most people associate science fiction with any kind of movie with a spaceship in it, regardless of plot. But Star Wars definitely deserves to be recognized amongst Fantasy films as well as sci-fi ones.
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
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Gwalchmai
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Perhaps the lines between fantasy and sci-fi have been blurring over the last few decades as Hollywood continues to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find story ideas? (Okay, that’s my personal peeve.) But maybe, just maybe, Star Wars harkens back to the more classic Hero Tale, or Fable, if you will. You know, hero is introduced, hero encounters problem, hero fails at solving problem, hero thinks about it for a while, hero grows as a person, hero destroys problem. Not Fantasy, Not Science Fiction. Classic.
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
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Things Uttered by Yoda While Making Love
12> "Ahhh! Yoda's little friend seek you!"
11> "Excuse me while I put a shield on my saber, Sweetheart."
10> "Now you know why they put one of me in every Happy Meal, do you."
9> "Cuddling, afterplay -- a Jedi craves not these things."
8> "Down here, I am. Find a ladder, must I!"
7> "Do me or do me not -- there is no try."
6> "Early must I rise. Leave now must you!"
5> "You know, this would be a lot more fun without Frank Oz's hand up my ass."
4> "Happens to every guy sometimes this does."
3> "When 900 years old you get, Viagra you need too, hmmmmm?"
2> "Who's your Jedi master? WHO'S your Jedi Master?"
----and the number 1 Thing Uttered by Yoda While Making Love...
1> "Ow, ow, OW! On my ear you are!"
12> "Ahhh! Yoda's little friend seek you!"
11> "Excuse me while I put a shield on my saber, Sweetheart."
10> "Now you know why they put one of me in every Happy Meal, do you."
9> "Cuddling, afterplay -- a Jedi craves not these things."
8> "Down here, I am. Find a ladder, must I!"
7> "Do me or do me not -- there is no try."
6> "Early must I rise. Leave now must you!"
5> "You know, this would be a lot more fun without Frank Oz's hand up my ass."
4> "Happens to every guy sometimes this does."
3> "When 900 years old you get, Viagra you need too, hmmmmm?"
2> "Who's your Jedi master? WHO'S your Jedi Master?"
----and the number 1 Thing Uttered by Yoda While Making Love...
1> "Ow, ow, OW! On my ear you are!"
I'm not dead yet 
Science fiction need not take place in the future or deal with our planet at all. Take the Isaac Asimov story "Nightfall," about a planet where the stars were visible only once in a thousand years. So awesome was the sight that it drove men mad. It has nothing to do with earth or the future of humanity; it just asks some profound questions on the way we look at things.Originally posted by Georgi:
<STRONG>Sci-fi I think predicts the future of the human race at some point in time. It's not just about the technology. That would make Star Wars more fantasy than sci-fi. But the lines are blurred.</STRONG>
Star Wars is not a deep or introspective movie. It has nothing new to say about humanity, it merely repeats old lessons in a new way. Star Wars is about spirituality in the modern era, whereas many true sci-fi movies tend to be secular (but not always) and omit god (or the force) from their musings. I’m not saying one is better than the other, just that they stand on different soapboxes, so to speak.
Of course you can't have Science fiction without some form of technology. Technology is the heart of sci-fi, inquires on the human condition are the soul.
[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: Kayless ]
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
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Very astute post, that. I've written elsewhere that I consider Star Wars the Great American Myth: the idea that a few plucky individuals can, with courage and wisdom borrowed from other cultures, stand against anything and win. History shows otherwise, and the American Experience is one of money, manpower and mechanation winning over individual effort; but that hasn't dented the desire of people to forget reality, and believe otherwise.Kayless writes:
Star Wars isn’t sci-fi, it’s myth set to a sci-fi backdrop. The Star Wars story is as old as human history and contains many items more commonly found in fantasy pictures: Knights with shining sabers, evil warriors clad in black armor, magic and mysticism (the Force). I’ve read a few Star Wars novels and IMO they stink. That’s because the writers make the mistake of assuming that it’s a sci-fi environment. Star Trek is sci-fi; Star Wars is modern myth.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
More things Yoda would say in Bed
"Like that you do don't you"
"Bend over and show me your dark side"
"Yes, the ears are for ressing your ankles mmmmm"
"You like the little green thing don't you"
"Your the force"
"Sleep in the wet spot I wont"
"Like that you do don't you"
"Bend over and show me your dark side"
"Yes, the ears are for ressing your ankles mmmmm"
"You like the little green thing don't you"
"Your the force"
"Sleep in the wet spot I wont"
Cartoon Law III
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
Many people were harping on the Phantom Menace because of Jar Jar Binks and the Gungan way of speaking (“Messa’ your humble servant!”). But Star Wars has never been politically correct. Sentient droids are kept as slaves, the Empire doesn't allow non-humans in its ranks (aside for the occasional freelance bounty hunter), and many aliens speak with questionable accents. It’s indicative of our modern era that people get all bent out of shape over the same 'offensive' things that they ignored 20 years ago. Part of Star War’s charm is its naive innocence. I can't believe its trespasses are deliberate or malicious, just careless. To me, getting angry at the way Jar Jar Binks talks is just silly.Originally posted by Mr Sleep:
<STRONG>What about the issue of star wars and the racist aspect?</STRONG>
Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
The main problem with Jar Jar, and the whole of Phanotom Menace for that matter is that it had too many elements that were targeted towards the little kiddies. It didn't have the same power and feeling that was inspired by the other three. Particularly the scene between luke and vader in front of the emporer. Now that was awe inspiring!Originally posted by Kayless:
<STRONG>To me, getting angry at the way Jar Jar Binks talks is just silly.</STRONG>
Cartoon Law III
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
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I found this script of SW 1 from local Chop Shop
STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACE: THE UNCUT SCRIPT
FADE IN:
INT. SPACESHIP
LIAM NEESON
It is vitally important we enter trade negotiations with the federation.
EWAN MCGREGOR
I agree. This one planet and how it trades with other planets is certainly an important enough topic to be the entire plot of a Star Wars film.
INT. SPACESHIP - MAIN DECK
EVIL ALIEN
Werr. What wirr we do now? My evil, obviousry Asian race must prevair. I wirr not face de Jedi. Send de droid.
INT. SPACESHIP - BACK TO THE JEDI
A droid enters.
LIAM NEESON
I sense a disturbance in the force.
EWAN MCGREGOR
Well, sh!t.
Suddenly, numerous pieces of CGI enter and begin attacking the Jedi. The Jedi use the high concentration of midichlorians in their bodies to use the force to destroy the CGI. They run outside.
EXT. NABOO
They run until they smack into some more CGI.
JAR JAR
Who might you be?
LIAM NEESON
(staring in the general direction of Jar Jar, but not really staring at him)
I am a Jedi. There are bad things coming. Take me to your homeland.
JAR JAR
I see. That is quite interesting. I will guide you to the land from which I have come.
Suddenly, GEORGE LUCAS realizes the Jar Jar toys aren't selling well enough.
JAR JAR (cont^"d)
Oh! Meesa sorry! Meesa ment to says: Weesa can go back to Jamaica mon, okeyday?
EWAN MCGREGOR
(staring at something right above Jar Jar)
Good. Do you have a hotel room for me and Liam? We have..uh..Jedi business to attend to.
JAR JAR
Weesa can smokesa some ganja, mon.
AUDIENCE
Die. Die, Jar Jar. Nobody likes you.
INT. SPACESHIP - MAIN DECK
The queen appears over some kind of thing which appears to be better in technology than the kinds of things in the original trilogy.
NATALIE PORTMAN
I am the queen. You've gone too far this time. I will tell the senate and you will be in a lot of trouble.
EVIL ALIEN
I'm so sorry, Amidala.
NATALIE PORTMAN
No, no, I'm Padme now.
EVIL ALIEN
I thought when in the makeup, you were the queen.
NATALIE PORTMAN
No, I'm whoever is playing the queen at the time. The voice changes don't help you figure this out.
EVIL ALIEN
Stop trying to confoose me! Droids, capture the queen.. or Padme.. er..just capture everyone!
LIAM and EWAN and, f*ck, JAR JAR too take NATALIE PORTMAN and other members of her staff onto a ship and they escape. They go to Tatooine.
INT. TATOOINE - SOME SHOP WHERE JAKE LLOYD IS HELD SLAVE
JAKE LLOYD
Hi there! Golly I'm cute.
NATALIE PORTMAN
You certainly are, little boy.
JAKE LLOYD
I'm the only one disturbed by the fact that I'm gonna bone you in episode two?
LIAM NEESON
Jake, I need you to have a pod race so I can get the parts I need and free you.
JAKE'S MOM
No, I won't allow him to pod race. He'll get hurt.
(pause)
Ok, I will. Nevermind. Good luck.
They pod race. It looks really COOL.
GEORGE LUCAS
(attempting subtlety)
Oh! Look! There's a video game of this scene... uh.. buy it! Hey, I had to sacrifice a part of my grand vision for these movies to include a part that could be turned into a game, so buy it or I'll do it even more in episode 2.
JAKE wins! He has to leave his mother, which will become very important in the next movie. He also has to leave his protocol droid, THREEPIO.
AUDIENCE
He built C-3PO? Why wasn't this ever mentioned in the original trilogy?
GEORGE LUCAS
Because I just made it up. Speaking of stuff I'm just making up, how do you like the midichlorian bull**** I pulled out of my arse?
They all get into their ship and go to Coruscant.
INT. CORUSCANT - JEDI COUNCIL
LIAM NEESON
I want to train this boy.
YODA
Nope. Sorry. Too old the boy is. Clouded his future seems. Vague my worries are.
LIAM NEESON
Well, he is the chosen one. He will bring balance to the force. I'm training him.
SAMUEL L. JACKSON
Yoda told you no, muthaf*cka. What the f*ck is wrong with you, bitchass? I'll f*ckin' kill you! I'm gonna be a f*ckin bad ass in the next two f*ckin movies, you know. My toy has a f*ckin lightsaber.
LIAM NEESON
I'm going to go over your head and train him myself, then. So there.
He exits.
INT. GALACTIC SENATE MEETING
IAN MCDIARMID
Damn I'm evil.
Suddenly, we see E.T! This does not make the film HYPER-CUTESEY like Return of the Jedi, but CLEVER.
EXT. NABOO
NATALIE PORTMAN
I am either the queen or Padme now. Regardless, your cheesy-looking race of annoying, unrealistic characters need to ally with our badly acting race of creatures so we can capture this one guy.
BOSS NASS
One guy? The climax of this film revolves entirely around us capturing one, pretty insignificant guy? Doesn't that make this whole thing kinda pointless?
NATALIE PORTMAN
No more pointless than the fact that this entire film revolves around taxes on trade and the cutting off of one, pathetic little planet half-filled with annoying creatures.
They go after the bad guy or whatever. Who cares?
Finally DARTH MAUL shows up for a prolonged fight sequence. Darth wears black boots, a black cloak, a black shirt, has a red lightsaber, wears red and black face paint, and has horns. He is EVIL.
Meanwhile, the Naboo people go after this one insignificant guy and we really don't care.
Meanwhile, the Gungans go against a bunch of droids and we really don't care except we want the Gungans to die.
Meanwhile, Anakin takes off into space to join the space-battle, which is mostly over by the time he arrives. We care a little bit.
INT. SOME KIND OF THINGY WITH SOME RED FORCE FIELDS
MAUL, LIAM, and EWAN all have a huge lightsaber battle which has had a lot of effort put into the choreography and is thousands of times better than any other lightsaber battle in a Star Wars film.
AUDIENCE
Whoa! This is really cool!
Suddenly, we go back to one of the other three stupid battles going on at the time. Eventually, we return to the good one.
DARTH MAUL
(menacing as hell)
Grrr.
Eventually, MAUL stabs LIAM, which is very surprising, especially to those of us who bought the film score which has a song whose title gives away the ending. He then kicks EWAN into a shaft. EWAN grabs onto something on the side and holds on for dear life.
EWAN MCGREGOR
Well, you certainly are an experienced fighter and there is little question you could kick pretty much anyone's arse.
DARTH MAUL (cont^"d)
Muahahahaha.
Slowly, EWAN uses the force to grab LIAM'S lightsaber, jump up out of the shaft, over MAUL, press the button on the saber, and slice MAUL in half while MAUL stands there like an idiot and does nothing at all. He dies.
EXT. SPACE
JAKE LLOYD
Whoaaaaa! I'm in space! Now this is pod racing! Yipee! Uh oh! Man, I'm so cute.
JAKE goes into a hangar, where the main reactor for the ship is kept. He accidentally blows it to SH!T.
JAKE LLOYD (cont^"d)
Uh oh! I better leave! Let's leave Artoo!
They exit quickly. The ship explodes, which stops all the droids and just makes everything great, because it's always enjoyable when a serious conflict is resolved with a slapstick accident.
EXT. THE STREETS OF NABOO
The Gungans are dancing and such, still alive. A huge party ensues.
AUDIENCE
Wow! Watching this party and all this celebration has convinced me that the tiny, pathetic problem that has been taken care of is actually really significant! Hooray!
Suddenly, the AUDIENCE realizes that behind all the mindless celebration and kiddie cartoon bullsh!t, what actually happened was the future-emperor has actually manipulated everything, come into great power, and that
one tiny problem has actually been resolved, but thousands more have been created.
GEORGE LUCAS
Three years, su-ckers. I'd make them come out sooner, but I work very hard on my films, as I am an independent filmmaker due to my disgust with Hollywood's commercialism. Now go buy some Star Wars toys!
END
STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACE: THE UNCUT SCRIPT
FADE IN:
INT. SPACESHIP
LIAM NEESON
It is vitally important we enter trade negotiations with the federation.
EWAN MCGREGOR
I agree. This one planet and how it trades with other planets is certainly an important enough topic to be the entire plot of a Star Wars film.
INT. SPACESHIP - MAIN DECK
EVIL ALIEN
Werr. What wirr we do now? My evil, obviousry Asian race must prevair. I wirr not face de Jedi. Send de droid.
INT. SPACESHIP - BACK TO THE JEDI
A droid enters.
LIAM NEESON
I sense a disturbance in the force.
EWAN MCGREGOR
Well, sh!t.
Suddenly, numerous pieces of CGI enter and begin attacking the Jedi. The Jedi use the high concentration of midichlorians in their bodies to use the force to destroy the CGI. They run outside.
EXT. NABOO
They run until they smack into some more CGI.
JAR JAR
Who might you be?
LIAM NEESON
(staring in the general direction of Jar Jar, but not really staring at him)
I am a Jedi. There are bad things coming. Take me to your homeland.
JAR JAR
I see. That is quite interesting. I will guide you to the land from which I have come.
Suddenly, GEORGE LUCAS realizes the Jar Jar toys aren't selling well enough.
JAR JAR (cont^"d)
Oh! Meesa sorry! Meesa ment to says: Weesa can go back to Jamaica mon, okeyday?
EWAN MCGREGOR
(staring at something right above Jar Jar)
Good. Do you have a hotel room for me and Liam? We have..uh..Jedi business to attend to.
JAR JAR
Weesa can smokesa some ganja, mon.
AUDIENCE
Die. Die, Jar Jar. Nobody likes you.
INT. SPACESHIP - MAIN DECK
The queen appears over some kind of thing which appears to be better in technology than the kinds of things in the original trilogy.
NATALIE PORTMAN
I am the queen. You've gone too far this time. I will tell the senate and you will be in a lot of trouble.
EVIL ALIEN
I'm so sorry, Amidala.
NATALIE PORTMAN
No, no, I'm Padme now.
EVIL ALIEN
I thought when in the makeup, you were the queen.
NATALIE PORTMAN
No, I'm whoever is playing the queen at the time. The voice changes don't help you figure this out.
EVIL ALIEN
Stop trying to confoose me! Droids, capture the queen.. or Padme.. er..just capture everyone!
LIAM and EWAN and, f*ck, JAR JAR too take NATALIE PORTMAN and other members of her staff onto a ship and they escape. They go to Tatooine.
INT. TATOOINE - SOME SHOP WHERE JAKE LLOYD IS HELD SLAVE
JAKE LLOYD
Hi there! Golly I'm cute.
NATALIE PORTMAN
You certainly are, little boy.
JAKE LLOYD
I'm the only one disturbed by the fact that I'm gonna bone you in episode two?
LIAM NEESON
Jake, I need you to have a pod race so I can get the parts I need and free you.
JAKE'S MOM
No, I won't allow him to pod race. He'll get hurt.
(pause)
Ok, I will. Nevermind. Good luck.
They pod race. It looks really COOL.
GEORGE LUCAS
(attempting subtlety)
Oh! Look! There's a video game of this scene... uh.. buy it! Hey, I had to sacrifice a part of my grand vision for these movies to include a part that could be turned into a game, so buy it or I'll do it even more in episode 2.
JAKE wins! He has to leave his mother, which will become very important in the next movie. He also has to leave his protocol droid, THREEPIO.
AUDIENCE
He built C-3PO? Why wasn't this ever mentioned in the original trilogy?
GEORGE LUCAS
Because I just made it up. Speaking of stuff I'm just making up, how do you like the midichlorian bull**** I pulled out of my arse?
They all get into their ship and go to Coruscant.
INT. CORUSCANT - JEDI COUNCIL
LIAM NEESON
I want to train this boy.
YODA
Nope. Sorry. Too old the boy is. Clouded his future seems. Vague my worries are.
LIAM NEESON
Well, he is the chosen one. He will bring balance to the force. I'm training him.
SAMUEL L. JACKSON
Yoda told you no, muthaf*cka. What the f*ck is wrong with you, bitchass? I'll f*ckin' kill you! I'm gonna be a f*ckin bad ass in the next two f*ckin movies, you know. My toy has a f*ckin lightsaber.
LIAM NEESON
I'm going to go over your head and train him myself, then. So there.
He exits.
INT. GALACTIC SENATE MEETING
IAN MCDIARMID
Damn I'm evil.
Suddenly, we see E.T! This does not make the film HYPER-CUTESEY like Return of the Jedi, but CLEVER.
EXT. NABOO
NATALIE PORTMAN
I am either the queen or Padme now. Regardless, your cheesy-looking race of annoying, unrealistic characters need to ally with our badly acting race of creatures so we can capture this one guy.
BOSS NASS
One guy? The climax of this film revolves entirely around us capturing one, pretty insignificant guy? Doesn't that make this whole thing kinda pointless?
NATALIE PORTMAN
No more pointless than the fact that this entire film revolves around taxes on trade and the cutting off of one, pathetic little planet half-filled with annoying creatures.
They go after the bad guy or whatever. Who cares?
Finally DARTH MAUL shows up for a prolonged fight sequence. Darth wears black boots, a black cloak, a black shirt, has a red lightsaber, wears red and black face paint, and has horns. He is EVIL.
Meanwhile, the Naboo people go after this one insignificant guy and we really don't care.
Meanwhile, the Gungans go against a bunch of droids and we really don't care except we want the Gungans to die.
Meanwhile, Anakin takes off into space to join the space-battle, which is mostly over by the time he arrives. We care a little bit.
INT. SOME KIND OF THINGY WITH SOME RED FORCE FIELDS
MAUL, LIAM, and EWAN all have a huge lightsaber battle which has had a lot of effort put into the choreography and is thousands of times better than any other lightsaber battle in a Star Wars film.
AUDIENCE
Whoa! This is really cool!
Suddenly, we go back to one of the other three stupid battles going on at the time. Eventually, we return to the good one.
DARTH MAUL
(menacing as hell)
Grrr.
Eventually, MAUL stabs LIAM, which is very surprising, especially to those of us who bought the film score which has a song whose title gives away the ending. He then kicks EWAN into a shaft. EWAN grabs onto something on the side and holds on for dear life.
EWAN MCGREGOR
Well, you certainly are an experienced fighter and there is little question you could kick pretty much anyone's arse.
DARTH MAUL (cont^"d)
Muahahahaha.
Slowly, EWAN uses the force to grab LIAM'S lightsaber, jump up out of the shaft, over MAUL, press the button on the saber, and slice MAUL in half while MAUL stands there like an idiot and does nothing at all. He dies.
EXT. SPACE
JAKE LLOYD
Whoaaaaa! I'm in space! Now this is pod racing! Yipee! Uh oh! Man, I'm so cute.
JAKE goes into a hangar, where the main reactor for the ship is kept. He accidentally blows it to SH!T.
JAKE LLOYD (cont^"d)
Uh oh! I better leave! Let's leave Artoo!
They exit quickly. The ship explodes, which stops all the droids and just makes everything great, because it's always enjoyable when a serious conflict is resolved with a slapstick accident.
EXT. THE STREETS OF NABOO
The Gungans are dancing and such, still alive. A huge party ensues.
AUDIENCE
Wow! Watching this party and all this celebration has convinced me that the tiny, pathetic problem that has been taken care of is actually really significant! Hooray!
Suddenly, the AUDIENCE realizes that behind all the mindless celebration and kiddie cartoon bullsh!t, what actually happened was the future-emperor has actually manipulated everything, come into great power, and that
one tiny problem has actually been resolved, but thousands more have been created.
GEORGE LUCAS
Three years, su-ckers. I'd make them come out sooner, but I work very hard on my films, as I am an independent filmmaker due to my disgust with Hollywood's commercialism. Now go buy some Star Wars toys!
END
I'm not dead yet
LOL! "Told you no, I did bitch! Step off you will... yes."Originally posted by KidD01:
<STRONG>YODA
Nope. Sorry. Too old the boy is. Clouded his future seems. Vague my worries are.
LIAM NEESON
Well, he is the chosen one. He will bring balance to the force. I'm training him.
SAMUEL L. JACKSON
Yoda told you no, muthaf*cka. What the f*ck is wrong with you, bitchass? I'll f*ckin' kill you! I'm gonna be a f*ckin bad ass in the next two f*ckin movies, you know. My toy has a f*ckin lightsaber.</STRONG>
I've actually made a custom tape that omits the other battles and leaves the last lightsaber duel. Not only does it cut out the crap we don't care about, but you'd be amazed at how much more tense the fight is when it's uninterrupted.Originally posted by KidD01:
<STRONG>Finally DARTH MAUL shows up for a prolonged fight sequence. Darth wears black boots, a black cloak, a black shirt, has a red lightsaber, wears red and black face paint, and has horns. He is EVIL.
Meanwhile, the Naboo people go after this one insignificant guy and we really don't care.
Meanwhile, the Gungans go against a bunch of droids and we really don't care except we want the Gungans to die.
Meanwhile, Anakin takes off into space to join the space-battle, which is mostly over by the time he arrives. We care a little bit.
INT. SOME KIND OF THINGY WITH SOME RED FORCE FIELDS
MAUL, LIAM, and EWAN all have a huge lightsaber battle which has had a lot of effort put into the choreography and is thousands of times better than any other lightsaber battle in a Star Wars film.
AUDIENCE
Whoa! This is really cool!
Suddenly, we go back to one of the other three stupid battles going on at the time. Eventually, we return to the good one.</STRONG>
LMAO! This is exactly what happened to me. “Uh, okay. Qui-Gon’s Noble End and Qui-Gon's Funeral. I guess Liam Neeson won’t be in the next prequel.” On a semi-related note, isn’t The Appearance of Darth Maul a kickass track? It starts off with this eerie wailing and then goes into a chilling variation of the Emperor’s Theme. But in the actual movie this part is really short (and is in fact played during Darth Sidious’ appearance). It’s a shame they didn’t use the entire song in the picture. A shiver goes down my spine whenever I hear The Appearance of Darth Maul.Originally posted by KidD01:
<STRONG>Eventually, MAUL stabs LIAM, which is very surprising, especially to those of us who bought the film score which has a song whose title gives away the ending.</STRONG>
Maul doesn't cackle.Originally posted by KidD01:
<STRONG>DARTH MAUL (cont^"d)
Muahahahaha.</STRONG>
Okay, as funny as this it is also a bit harsh. You can rip apart the original trilogy for many of the same reasons. I really enjoyed the Phantom Menace, but hope they learned from some of the mistakes they made (more lightsaber duels! Nothing but lightsaber duels! I’d watch two hours of Jedi smashing Sith and god knows what else! Wouldn’t you?
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Nature’s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf’s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
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These one were leaked out from TOP Government files :
40 THINGS UFO STUDY FROM ID4
That We Never Knew Before
By Fox Mulder - FBI Agent
While viewing the film Independence Day, it became apparent that we were remarkably uninformed about several things related to Area 51, aliens, military operations, and America in general. Below is a quick list of a few important things we learned from the film that we never knew before, and a few lessons that were inferred from the plot. We wish to thank the creators of ID4 for making these facts much clearer to us.
1. Aliens like to blow up significant land marks first. Apparently the best way to destroy a city is to position your "Death Ray" over the most recognizable building.
2. All pro-UFO people are morons who dance atop the building directly under the Death Ray.
3. If alien "Destroyers" come to your city to blast it into oblivion, leave BEFORE they fire the Death Ray.
4. If alien "Destroyers" come to your city to blast it into oblivion and you are caught in traffic at the last minute, make sure that you are travelling with a dog and a small child. The Law of Averages says you'll survive the Death Ray.
5. If alien "Destroyers" come to your city to blast it into oblivion and you are caught in traffic at the last minute, make sure that you are NOT a raspy-voiced homosexual cable TV executive. The Law of Averages says you'll get waxed by the Death Ray.
6. Stripping is a lucrative profession that allows one to "Pay the bills," "take care of one's boy," and own a nice house in a middle class subdivision.
7. Strippers got moxie. When the going gets tough, they can drive California Highway Department utility vehicles, collect refugees and use their extensive survival skills to provide food and comfort to survivors.
8. NASA sends out rejection letters, just like Harvard.
9. Area 51 is an "Assault Base".
10. A fleet of RVs can travel across the Nevada Test Site in line-abreast formation without the need of roads, thanks to the immense expanses of Salt Flats and the lack of impeding mountains.
11. Area 51 has a big chain-link fence around it, and the guards at the gate wear black combat fatigues with white metal helmets in 120 degree heat.
12. Any bonehead with an RV can get to Area 51 by driving across the Salt Flat to the gate and flashing a captured alien to the guard.
13. Standard operating procedure for the Air Force is to cluster all vehicles, aircraft, and ground personnel on a 200 meter section of tarmac in the middle of an Alien Invasion.
14. The F-18 is the sole fighter in use by all branches of the service, including Marines and Air Force.
15. From the assault scenes on the Alien "Destroyers', it appears that the F-18 must have had a 1000 unit production run.
16. Both F-18s and B-2s must close to within 10 km of a target 20 km across before engaging with both air-to-air missiles and aerial launched nuclear cruise missiles.
17. People too drunk to walk can still fly crop dusters and F-18s.
18. Any bonehead with rudimentary aviation experience can be taught to pilot an F-18 in 5 hours.
19. Any bonehead with F-18 flight experience can learn to pilot an Alien fighter in 5 minutes.
20. Aliens with anatomy that includes tentacles and clawed feet use flight yokes just like ours.
21. Aliens are wimps, even the ones in "Bio-Mechanical" armor. They have glass jaws and can be taken out with a punch by Will Smith. (He has had a lot of practice on photographers, though.)
22. Aliens are stupid. When one of their fighters approaches the carrier, they don't bother to communicate with the pilot.
23. Aliens are even more stupid. They pursue their targets into canyons walls and closing blast doors.
24. Aliens are unbelievably stupid. While unarmed and unarmored, they do things to piss off people with hand guns.
25. Aliens are just too stupid for words to express. An alien air traffic controller can look at a fighter that has been human-modified for 20 minutes and is only 50 feet away and not notice the welded-on missile rack until the missile is fired through his work station.
26. Aliens are remarkably inarticulate. All they can say is, "Release me," "No peace," and "Die!"
27. If you're President and your administration is faltering, an Alien Invasion might be a good way to boost your ratings in the polls.
28. If you're President and your administration is faltering, manage to work into every other sentence the fact that you "flew in the Persian Gulf." No need to specify what branch of service.
29. If you're President and your administration is faltering and an Alien Invasion occurs, relocate the V.P., the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs to one centralized location so that the Aliens can take them all out with one shot. You can always blame the problems of the past on them after victory is achieved.
30. The President's Press secretary keeps her cell phone listed in the phone book "in case of emergencies."
31. If your father abandons his Jewish beliefs after the death of your mother, always carry around a Torah and a Yarmulke. Aliens might attack and offer him a chance to renew his faith.
32. If aliens abduct you and effectively destroy your life by making you the laughing stock of the community, never fear. When their "Destroyers" come, you will be vindicated to those who mocked your tale.
33. If aliens abduct you and do unspeakable things to you, you can have revenge upon them by flying an F-18 into their Death Ray.
34. If aliens abduct you and do unspeakable things to you and you have revenge upon them by flying an F-18 into their Death Ray, you will obtain redemption and your children will be proud of you.
35. The best way to win back a former wife is to be very annoying, look perpetually vexed, and keep wearing your wedding ring for 4 years after the divorce.
36. In 10 hours, one man with a Macintosh Laptop can code a virus in C++ that will take down a completely alien computer system.
37. Even though the Mac isn't compatible with most other Earthly operating systems, it can interface with an alien computer.
38. Alien network security is nonexistent.
39. Rather than attacking a planet when they first encounter it (i.e., 1940s), aliens wait until the planet has developed just enough technology to possibly defend itself.
40. Scientists at Area 51 are a bit touched in the head, and "Don't get out much."
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: KidD01 ]
40 THINGS UFO STUDY FROM ID4
That We Never Knew Before
By Fox Mulder - FBI Agent
While viewing the film Independence Day, it became apparent that we were remarkably uninformed about several things related to Area 51, aliens, military operations, and America in general. Below is a quick list of a few important things we learned from the film that we never knew before, and a few lessons that were inferred from the plot. We wish to thank the creators of ID4 for making these facts much clearer to us.
1. Aliens like to blow up significant land marks first. Apparently the best way to destroy a city is to position your "Death Ray" over the most recognizable building.
2. All pro-UFO people are morons who dance atop the building directly under the Death Ray.
3. If alien "Destroyers" come to your city to blast it into oblivion, leave BEFORE they fire the Death Ray.
4. If alien "Destroyers" come to your city to blast it into oblivion and you are caught in traffic at the last minute, make sure that you are travelling with a dog and a small child. The Law of Averages says you'll survive the Death Ray.
5. If alien "Destroyers" come to your city to blast it into oblivion and you are caught in traffic at the last minute, make sure that you are NOT a raspy-voiced homosexual cable TV executive. The Law of Averages says you'll get waxed by the Death Ray.
6. Stripping is a lucrative profession that allows one to "Pay the bills," "take care of one's boy," and own a nice house in a middle class subdivision.
7. Strippers got moxie. When the going gets tough, they can drive California Highway Department utility vehicles, collect refugees and use their extensive survival skills to provide food and comfort to survivors.
8. NASA sends out rejection letters, just like Harvard.
9. Area 51 is an "Assault Base".
10. A fleet of RVs can travel across the Nevada Test Site in line-abreast formation without the need of roads, thanks to the immense expanses of Salt Flats and the lack of impeding mountains.
11. Area 51 has a big chain-link fence around it, and the guards at the gate wear black combat fatigues with white metal helmets in 120 degree heat.
12. Any bonehead with an RV can get to Area 51 by driving across the Salt Flat to the gate and flashing a captured alien to the guard.
13. Standard operating procedure for the Air Force is to cluster all vehicles, aircraft, and ground personnel on a 200 meter section of tarmac in the middle of an Alien Invasion.
14. The F-18 is the sole fighter in use by all branches of the service, including Marines and Air Force.
15. From the assault scenes on the Alien "Destroyers', it appears that the F-18 must have had a 1000 unit production run.
16. Both F-18s and B-2s must close to within 10 km of a target 20 km across before engaging with both air-to-air missiles and aerial launched nuclear cruise missiles.
17. People too drunk to walk can still fly crop dusters and F-18s.
18. Any bonehead with rudimentary aviation experience can be taught to pilot an F-18 in 5 hours.
19. Any bonehead with F-18 flight experience can learn to pilot an Alien fighter in 5 minutes.
20. Aliens with anatomy that includes tentacles and clawed feet use flight yokes just like ours.
21. Aliens are wimps, even the ones in "Bio-Mechanical" armor. They have glass jaws and can be taken out with a punch by Will Smith. (He has had a lot of practice on photographers, though.)
22. Aliens are stupid. When one of their fighters approaches the carrier, they don't bother to communicate with the pilot.
23. Aliens are even more stupid. They pursue their targets into canyons walls and closing blast doors.
24. Aliens are unbelievably stupid. While unarmed and unarmored, they do things to piss off people with hand guns.
25. Aliens are just too stupid for words to express. An alien air traffic controller can look at a fighter that has been human-modified for 20 minutes and is only 50 feet away and not notice the welded-on missile rack until the missile is fired through his work station.
26. Aliens are remarkably inarticulate. All they can say is, "Release me," "No peace," and "Die!"
27. If you're President and your administration is faltering, an Alien Invasion might be a good way to boost your ratings in the polls.
28. If you're President and your administration is faltering, manage to work into every other sentence the fact that you "flew in the Persian Gulf." No need to specify what branch of service.
29. If you're President and your administration is faltering and an Alien Invasion occurs, relocate the V.P., the Cabinet, and the Joint Chiefs to one centralized location so that the Aliens can take them all out with one shot. You can always blame the problems of the past on them after victory is achieved.
30. The President's Press secretary keeps her cell phone listed in the phone book "in case of emergencies."
31. If your father abandons his Jewish beliefs after the death of your mother, always carry around a Torah and a Yarmulke. Aliens might attack and offer him a chance to renew his faith.
32. If aliens abduct you and effectively destroy your life by making you the laughing stock of the community, never fear. When their "Destroyers" come, you will be vindicated to those who mocked your tale.
33. If aliens abduct you and do unspeakable things to you, you can have revenge upon them by flying an F-18 into their Death Ray.
34. If aliens abduct you and do unspeakable things to you and you have revenge upon them by flying an F-18 into their Death Ray, you will obtain redemption and your children will be proud of you.
35. The best way to win back a former wife is to be very annoying, look perpetually vexed, and keep wearing your wedding ring for 4 years after the divorce.
36. In 10 hours, one man with a Macintosh Laptop can code a virus in C++ that will take down a completely alien computer system.
37. Even though the Mac isn't compatible with most other Earthly operating systems, it can interface with an alien computer.
38. Alien network security is nonexistent.
39. Rather than attacking a planet when they first encounter it (i.e., 1940s), aliens wait until the planet has developed just enough technology to possibly defend itself.
40. Scientists at Area 51 are a bit touched in the head, and "Don't get out much."
[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: KidD01 ]
I'm not dead yet
@Kid ROFLMAO, i agree with you about that Maul situation, he is just so much better and more impressive, to say he kicks *** is an understatment, the guy rocks, and how he gets killed is truly crap, and i also noticed that thing about Jake Lloyd and Natalie Portman, that is in fact the first thing i commented on as leaving the cinema
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.