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Gwalchmai
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Yes, ma'am! Don't worry, we will work it out. Actually, we figure we've procreated enough, and so in a year or two, I'm thinking of getting 'fixed'. That should improve things somewhat. Also, we are slowly getting used to the climate here in Arizona, and are getting out more for exercize. Also, we're planning on winning the lottery.... (we'd hire a maid service first thing! Think of the time we'd save!)
That there; exactly the kinda diversion we coulda used.
Truly, Gwalchmai, some household help is invaluable to the modern family. Almost everyone I know has some kind of help with house cleaning or looking after children or both.
What do you mean by getting "fixed"? I'm not sure I understand. Or is it something Buck would ban your spelling out?
What do you mean by getting "fixed"? I'm not sure I understand. Or is it something Buck would ban your spelling out?
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Waverly is probably right But yes, I think a vasectomy is a good idea if you feel you have reproduced enough. Aren't they even reversible nowadays?
But yes, I think a vasectomy is a good idea if you feel you have reproduced enough. Aren't they even reversible nowadays?"There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance." - Hippocrates
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"How did female sexuality get to be so loaded with taboo from the start?"
Now that's a dissertation topic all on it's own.......
I don't know, and while there are no doubt many theories, I'm not sure that anyone does. My own feeling is that some of it is related to the notion of property and heirs which I think came about sometime in the middle ages; female sexuality had to be controlled in order to ensure that one's heir was legitimate. I also tend to believe that subconsciously men have a deep-seated awe (or fear), and envy of women as bearers of life, thus the desire to control. This especially comes out if you look at the transition from midwife-assisted deliveries to physician-attended hospital births. Suddenly science seemed to be offering answers and control to one of life's great mysteries......
This is all just idle speculation though.....
Now that's a dissertation topic all on it's own.......
I don't know, and while there are no doubt many theories, I'm not sure that anyone does. My own feeling is that some of it is related to the notion of property and heirs which I think came about sometime in the middle ages; female sexuality had to be controlled in order to ensure that one's heir was legitimate. I also tend to believe that subconsciously men have a deep-seated awe (or fear), and envy of women as bearers of life, thus the desire to control. This especially comes out if you look at the transition from midwife-assisted deliveries to physician-attended hospital births. Suddenly science seemed to be offering answers and control to one of life's great mysteries......
This is all just idle speculation though.....
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Loner, perhaps we should call you Love's cynic?
I don't believe any of us can convince you. You'll be convinced for yourself one day.
Until that day, we'll be here to pass the time with ya!
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I don't believe any of us can convince you. You'll be convinced for yourself one day.
Until that day, we'll be here to pass the time with ya!
Theres always [url="http://www.realhamster.com"]Real Hamsters[/url] for your um... needs
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Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
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Love is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it
Love is like a sewer, what you get out of it, depends on what you put into it
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Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
My parents are still very much in love and they have been for 25 years, they live in a 'christian' ethos and are equal partners in the marriage, my mum does her bit and my dad does his, they have a love they have worked at.
What causes a lot of confusion is the fairy tale love that can be seen also in the most recent hollywood teen movies like 'she's all that', where the love lasts forever and it is all perfect once you have found that person.
IMHO i can not agree with the notion of a perfect love, one has to work at it and one can not just expect it to last, a large degree is also finding the right person in the first place.
But this is all my own opinion and is derived from someone who has never been in a loving and sexual relationship, i can not comment on the passion aspect.
What causes a lot of confusion is the fairy tale love that can be seen also in the most recent hollywood teen movies like 'she's all that', where the love lasts forever and it is all perfect once you have found that person.
IMHO i can not agree with the notion of a perfect love, one has to work at it and one can not just expect it to last, a large degree is also finding the right person in the first place.
But this is all my own opinion and is derived from someone who has never been in a loving and sexual relationship, i can not comment on the passion aspect.
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
@Vehemence: Well, have you read my new sig? And as far as being convinced...it's going to take a good man to do that. I can't just sit here and convince myself, now can I?...
Re the repression of female sexuality in Christian morality: Um, I realize I'm no psychiatrist or anything like, but I am a CHristian and I know my own faith. And I can tell you, that isn't true. Here's the teaching: sex is a gift from God and is a sacred act of union between two human beings, a physical manifestation of a spiritual bond. What the church teaches is chastity. That doesn't mean repression; it means 1. abstaining from sex until marriage. This isn't repression either, IMO. It's just waiting. 2. Remaining faithful to one's partner within marriage.
And the virtue of chastity is applied to the male as well as to the female in this teaching.
I realize that there may be some "Christian" sects that teach sexual repression; but the mainstream churches do not. And I also realize that not everyone will agree with this; I just wanted to clarify the teaching.
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And as far as being convinced...it's going to take a good man to do that. I can't just sit here and convince myself, now can I?...Re the repression of female sexuality in Christian morality: Um, I realize I'm no psychiatrist or anything like, but I am a CHristian and I know my own faith. And I can tell you, that isn't true. Here's the teaching: sex is a gift from God and is a sacred act of union between two human beings, a physical manifestation of a spiritual bond. What the church teaches is chastity. That doesn't mean repression; it means 1. abstaining from sex until marriage. This isn't repression either, IMO. It's just waiting. 2. Remaining faithful to one's partner within marriage.
And the virtue of chastity is applied to the male as well as to the female in this teaching.
I realize that there may be some "Christian" sects that teach sexual repression; but the mainstream churches do not. And I also realize that not everyone will agree with this; I just wanted to clarify the teaching.
[ 07-02-2001: Message edited by: loner72 ]
Well since you directed me to it... I shall oblige this timeOriginally posted by loner72:
<STRONG>@Vehemence: Well, have you read my new sig?
Hmmmm.. yes yes... priestess cynic... yes.. very interesting.... most interesting indeed.
*Marks down notes in file on Loner*
Cartoon Law III
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
Any body passing through solid matter will leave a perforation conforming to its perimeter. Also called the silhouette of passage, this phenomenon is the speciality of victims of directed-pressure explosions and of reckless cowards who are so eager to escape that they exit directly through the wall of a house, leaving a cookie-cutout-perfect hole. The threat of skunks or matrimony often catalyzes this reaction.
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Georgi
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No, but you don't have to make it as difficult as possible for him to find you eitherOriginally posted by loner72:
<STRONG>And as far as being convinced...it's going to take a good man to do that. I can't just sit here and convince myself, now can I?...</STRONG>
Modern teaching, yes... What about the hundreds of years when the ideas of the Church became ingrained in society? I don't think the argument that sex should be for procreation, not pleasure, was that uncommon...<STRONG>
Re the repression of female sexuality in Christian morality: Um, I realize I'm no psychiatrist or anything like, but I am a CHristian and I know my own faith. And I can tell you, that isn't true.</STRONG>
But I'm not expert either
Who, me?!?
Originally posted by Georgi: <STRONG>No, but you don't have to make it as difficult as possible for him to find you either
You're right about hundreds of years ago. I was just saying what the teaching is now. Because some think it's never changed, and it has...
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