i'm stuck at the crossroad keep *spoilers*

fast_motion · Post by **fast_motion** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:35 pm

hey, as the title says i'm stuck at the keep and i can't find any more missions. i'm alrdeay a knight, i got the true names of the shadow reaversmy business is doing well... when i talk with sir nevalle i keep asking what nasher's orders were again and he mentiones the old owl well but that location is not on my map anymore... i made allies with the dwarfs and the lizardmen... i got attacked in my keep by axle's spies and talked to unkus about meeting devrie but when i go to the merchant quarters i can't find him nor get in the city watch building... i've been reading u guys's walkthrough over and over but i just can't seem to get over this. can someone help me please ?

Mz_Trixter · Post by **Mz_Trixter** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:00 pm

which 'path' did you take? City watch or Theif? (my reason in asking, I never been attacked by spies at the keep)

About the other part to your question, there's a few other quests I had (at the same time) after getting the true names. But not really clear on where you're at.

fast_motion · Post by **fast_motion** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:34 pm

i took the thief path so it shouldn't have been a problem. i also now found the valley entrance to the dragon from the same mountain with the fire giants. i killed it and went back to ivarr from my church and he doesn't mention anything about it... and i thought that is what i had to do because i haven't found any god damn swords mountain that he is talkin about. also when i talk to nevalle and i ask him about the orders from nasher and he tells me that that all is left is too find a way to destraoy the shadow thingies which i can because i can do it with their true names but i can't get the option to tell him that... he sends me to talk to aldanon and when i come back to tell him still nothing... this is wacked...

Mz_Trixter · Post by **Mz_Trixter** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:40 pm

The red dragon?...Only paladins/clerics (as I've heard) could officially get that quest from the church from the keep. Otherwise, if you made a deal w/ the Firegiant King; he'll propose a deal that you kill it - then he'll give you Belt of Ironfist.

edit: If you play as a Paladin (to get Holy avenger sword) you get this quest from the priest.

(As for other quests)
If you have Ammon Jerro there talk with him along w/ your other companions. That's the best thing I can suggest for now. Try speaking with Grobnar about the Wendersnavens.

fast_motion · Post by **fast_motion** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:38 pm

well i'm a fighter, barbarian and ranger but somehow i got the mission from ivarr... also my character is chaotic evil. i talked to grobnar and went to that place and found the journal of that poet... and as he said an invisible musical instrument. when i went down in the basement again in the summoning cercle ammon started saying something about it and i have the option now to summon that devil mephast. he told me what ingridients i need to mix on the magician bench next to grobnar so now i'm trying to find some rare essences. but still... dunno how much that is gonna help with advancing in new missions... i'm gonna try to go in those few other places from the map and try to talk with the party members there to see if that helps...

but i'm still waiting for suggestions...

Mz_Trixter · Post by **Mz_Trixter** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:05 pm

did you talk with Elanee about the 'circle'? - also, Ammon should've mentioned Nonaloths Valley. unless you've already done it.

Other than those, and talking w/ your companions, dunno what else to suggest

...sorry

fast_motion · Post by **fast_motion** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:32 pm

yeah i killed those fools at circle but ammon didn't mention any valley... and i went back to that place too a few times to see if i missed something and still no dialog box appeared... i guess i have to go back again and start a convo with him.

i don't understand though what nevalle's problem is... i carried out all nasher's orders...

i'll keep this updated with my progress.

swcarter · Post by **swcarter** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:35 pm

My guess is that you need to go to West Harbor to reform the silver sword. To get there, you'll need to pass through the song portal in Arvahn.

SWC

Mz_Trixter · Post by **Mz_Trixter** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:41 pm

that's 1 other thing I forgot to suggest

- you might needa talk w/ Zhjaeve..to bring it up though, not sure.

fast_motion · Post by **fast_motion** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:10 am

unfortunately i don't have the west harbour map either... i tried talking to all the companions in all the maps but no result... what the hell is going on ??

Mz_Trixter · Post by **Mz_Trixter** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:58 pm

What's some of your other quests besides the main one OR are there any? Cuz if it's just the main quest left, it's starting to sound like a quest or trigger didn't launch right.

Also, did you ever fight the Reaver outside of the keep? (Callum) should've died after that fight. Then Nevalle comes n talk to you. This should be around the time after you make the sword.

One other thing, I doubt it is, but is Blacklake still on your map? Cause in your case, I'd try talkin to everyone I can.

danhvo · Post by **danhvo** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:05 pm

After you got the True Names, if you talk to your first officer (or whatever they call her) Kana, she'll mark the Reaver camp on your map. It sounds like that's the one person you haven't talked to.

If you're an evil character, I believe the quest you get from Ivarr is an atonement quest. You won't get a weapon for this quest, unlike the paladin/cleric quest. I think the result for your quest is that your alignment is shifted toward good.

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:33 pm

West Harbor won't be on your map. To reform the sword, you have to return to the Ruins of Arvhan and use the song portal there to go to West Harbor.

You got the mission from Ivarr because you were a chaotic evil character. Upon completing it, Ivarr will allow you to repent your sins. So, speak to him and he will give you 70 good points. That equals to a straight good alignment.
However, you won't get any weapons because your character is neither a Paladin or a Cleric.

fast_motion · Post by **fast_motion** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:28 am

i'm talking to kana all the time but it's only about the special missions i send the greycloaks on and the keep itself, there is another guy harcourt in there that when i click to talk to him nothing happens.

i talked to ammon jerro about reforgin the sword but he tells me that the gith travelling with us would know more about that but when i talk to her i don't have the option to ask her that...

i had that encounter with the ravager and *killed* him again and also had the encounter with that luskan wizard woman ( forgot her name ) and killed her too.

i can't complete the mission from ivarr because i don't have the map with the mountain of swords.

the maps i have right now are: port last, merchant quarter, strange blabla, crossroad keep, the one where i killed the ones from the circle, dwarf camp, fire giant mountain.

right now i'm just walking around like an idiot on all the maps and i can't find anything to do...

Mz_Trixter · Post by **Mz_Trixter** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:39 am

I don't recall a place on the map as Mountain of Swords. I'm thinking you're referring to the same mountain with the Red Dragon/Fire Giants. As there's only 3 mountain areas I've ever been able to get to: Fire Giants Mount. - Nonalauths Mount. - Ironfist Clan...

Cause I'm pretty sure the quest concerning Ivvar has to do with killing the dragon. But then, I've never really have played the entire game as an evil char.

Whether or not though your playing as good or evil, the main quests should work the same regaurdless. I'm sure there maybe some minor changes in storyline though as your already experiencing. But not being able to get/do the quests altogether's just strange.

danhvo · Post by **danhvo** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:01 pm

I just went through this a couple of days ago, so the main sequence of events is pretty clear in my head.

After you come back to the keep with the True Names (from the Luskan mage), as you enter the courtyard, you trigger a scene that results in both Ammon and Zhjaeve having the scroll of True Names. Did this cutscene happen for you? Ammon will also mention that Kana has just discovered a Reaver setting camp near Crossroad. Then when you talk to Kana, she's supposed to mark the camp on your map. If you can't get past this, then you cannot proceed, because only after you kill the Reaver at the camp (and pick up another shard on its body) will Ammon tell you about Nolaloth's valley. All the other stuffs (Mount Galardrym, Ironfist stronghold, Highcliff, etc.) are not critical for the plot.

Perhaps the evil path has a different sequence of events, but I wouldn't know, having never tried it.

You also didn't mention that Highcliff is on your map. It should be, but then again, maybe it's different for an evil character.

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:14 pm

I've played both paths and the sequence for both evil and good characters are the same. The only difference is not so crucial to the main questline.

But, yes, the conversation with Ammon and Zhjaeve does commence when you return with the true name scroll obtained from Sydney Natale.

So, have you managed to get "unstuck" from Crossroad Keep?

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