what does outsider include ?

demigame · Post by **demigame** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:14 pm

we have many creatures such like undead, beast, orc,human, demon...

what does outsider mean ,include ?

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:33 pm

Outsiders are cretures that are not of Faerun, such as Aasimar, Tiefling, Bladelings, Githyanki and deamons and devils

Ares2382 · Post by **Ares2382** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:12 am

Actually a more appropriate definition of an outsider would be any creature that's at least in part not of the Material plane.

Aber-Toril (on which Fearun is only one of the continent) is one world in this plane. There are others such as Eberron or Krynn (dragonlance).

But the creatures that Loki listed are all indeed outsiders. There are certainly many more, though I think that list covers just about all of the ones in NWN2.

Cyrinn · Post by **Cyrinn** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:58 pm

And don't forget mephits and imps!

"Cespenar make good imp-butler ohhhh yesssss!"

demigame · Post by **demigame** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:22 pm

i think there are more undead creatures than outsider in the game,

so choise undead as Favored Enemy would be better.

i have another question, i got some weapon which has evil +5, or outsider +5 or undead +3 ..

does undead and outsider all belong to evil ?

how can we know a creature is evil or good ?

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:44 pm

It depends on the creature's alignment. Not sure how to know in the game, but you could use the toolset to check out their alignments. But most of the time, your enemies are of neutral or evil alignment. All undead are evil.

Ares2382 · Post by **Ares2382** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:23 pm

All undead aren't evil. Not even in NWN2. Those ghosts in the illfarm ruins are certainly not evil.

And in the Monster Manual I don't think that all zombies and skeletons are evil either, they can certainly be neutral, but I'm not sure if that's true in NWN2.

And is there a Detect Alignment spell in NWN2, can't remember. They used to have that in BG games.

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:07 pm

Hmmmm, maybe something to think about. But most of the undead I checked out in the toolset were of evil alignment, thats why I thougt all were evil.

I don't think that there is a detect alignment spell in NWN2 though...

GoldDragon · Post by **GoldDragon** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:11 am

No, there isn't a Detect Alignment spell in NWN2.

Unless it is a clerical only or Aasimar racial ability.

From BG/BG2, it was arcane, and I ran thru the game as a Wizard, and didn't get the spell.

Loki[D.d.G] · Post by **Loki[D.d.G]** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:14 pm

Nope. theres none. Played as a cleric Aasimar before and didn't come across the spell