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Getting Wrye Mash to Work?

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Getting Wrye Mash to Work?

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After encountering a number of bugs, both in the vanilla game and in mods, I've come to suspect my save games may be corrupted. Somebody has advised me to try Wrye Mash as a means of cleaning my games.

Well, as per the instructions, I first downloaded and installed Python 2.5, I then grabbed the most recent version of Wrye Mash...

Lo and behold, when I click on the shortcut, Wrye Mash refuses to start. Apparently this is not uncommon, and the site states:
Starting Wrye Mash

• Double click the "Wrye Mash for Python 2.4 (2.5)" shortcut in the Mopy directory.

• If this doesn't work, see Non-Standard Morrowind/Python Directories or If Mash Won't Start.


Non-Standard Morrowind/Python Directories

• Do this if either Morrowind or Python is in a non-standard directory.

• Wrye Mash is not a regular program, but rather a script file. To run Mash, the Wrye Mash shortcut needs to tell Windows to: 1) find the Python script file interpreter (pythonw.exe), and 2) use it to run the bash.py script file that is located in the 3) Morrowind\Mopy directory.

• Ordinarily the Wrye Mash shortcut does this pretty easily, but if either Python or Morrowind is in a non-standard directory, then you need to alter it to point to the new directories. The rest of this section shows you how to do that.

• Copy the "Wrye Mash for Python 2.x" shortcut and give the copy a new name (e.g., "My Mash 2.x") – this protects your changes from being overwritten by future Mash releases.

• Right click on the new shortcut, select Properties. This will open the Properties window for the shortcut.

• Go to the Shortcut tab in the Properties window.

• If Morrowind is in a non-standard directory, then edit the Start In field to be

[Morrowind Directory Path]\Mopy (e.g. H:\Games\Morrowind\Mopy )

• If Python is in a non-standard place. then edit the Target field to be:

"[PythonPath]" bash.py (e.g. "C:\Python24\pythonw.exe" bash.py )


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If Mash Won't Start

• If Bash refuses to start, or quits after quickly flashing up a window...

• Check your Mash Shortcut

• Most users who have problems with Mash simply need to tweak the Start In and/or Target fields of the shortcut. (See Non-Standard Morrowind/Python Directories for more info.)

• If that's fine, then there may be a bug with Mash, or a problem with your setup. You can usually figure out the problem by creating a bug dump and reviewing it. And if you can't puzzle it out, someone on the Elder Scrolls forums may be able to help.

• Getting the Bugdump

• Open a command shell (Start: Programs: Accessories: Command Prompt).

• chdir to the Mopy directory. "chdir" means "change directory". E.g.: chdir C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\Mopy

• Type: c:\python24\python.exe mash.py 0

• If you have a different version/location of python, adapt the first argument accordingly.

• That's the number zero at the end, not the letter 'o'.

• Doing this will cause any error messages that Mash generates on start to spew to the command shell. This is the bugdump.

• Dealing with the Bugdump

• First, look at it! – especially the last several lines – this will often give you a good clue as to what the problem is, and you may be able to resolve it on your own.

• Common Problems

• Can't find bash.py: Make sure that you chdir to the Mopy directory first.

• If that doesn't help, then go to the forums and post the whole bugdump. Preferably, you should post the dump in the Relz/Help topic (see Discussion link at top of page) or you can start a new topic. Be sure to mention "Wrye Mash" in the text of the post.

• Hint: Control-C does not work in the command line window, but you can still copy text from it by selecting the text, and then hitting the Enter key.
Ehhh.... Okay.... :confused:

I did get part of the way through all of that, and I was able to copy the shortcut and find my way into the "Shortcut tab in the Properties window"... but after that I am lost... *sigh*.
The thing is.. I have the programme in my main MW directory, so it looks to me as though my start path is actually correct, it reads as:

"%PROGRAMFILES%\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\Mopy"

And my Target reads: %SYSTEMDRIVE%\Python25\pythonw.exe mash.py

So... maybe, as is explained in the second part of that quote.. I have a bug. Yes, I could go to the Elderscrolls forum as is suggested, and I likely will, but the thing is that if I follow the steps outlined, I suspect I won't have a clue as to how I can interpret the results.
Before I do that, I am really hoping that somebody here has a clear understanding of Wrye Mash and might be able to provide me with a "How to for Dummies Guide." :D ;) I can tinker a little bit with the console, and I am able to mess about with fairly basic computer stuff, but I find this sort of thing really daunting.

If anyone can help, I'd be very grateful, and I'd even bake you a large batch of cookies. :D

btw, [url="http://wrye.ufrealms.net/Wrye%20Mash.html#IfMashWontStart"]here[/url] is the link to Wrye Mash.
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Which python version do you have installed?
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Magelord648 wrote:Which python version do you have installed?
As I wrote above, Python 2.5.

And I know it is installed correctly because the icons have appeared properly labeled in the Wrye Mash Mopy folder (with names like: "Mosh Compiled Python File") and there is a shortcut to it (called "Module Docs") in my Start menu. When I click on the Python shortcut I have the option of asking it to open my browser and it automatically takes me to a page of various Python applications.

I don't know if it helps or not, but [url="http://files.myopera.com/DragonWench/albums/37360/IMGUPKV3CLWKE.jpg"]here[/url] is a screen shot of my Mopy folder.
And just to be clear, I am clicking on the 2.5 shortcut, not the 2.4. ;)
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Click on mash. That works for me. It's in the folder with the shortcuts.
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Magelord648 wrote:Click on mash. That works for me. It's in the folder with the shortcuts.
Hmm... I just tried that, no luck though... *sigh*

Gah... I always seem to get these really difficult problems :rolleyes:
And, I truly want to get Wrye Mash working, since it would help avoid my having to do reinstalls repeatedly. :rolleyes:
And I honestly do not want to start from scratch again, really, truly...
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Reinstall Wyre mash.

EDIT: Which windows version are you running?
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Magelord648 wrote:Reinstall Wyre mash.

EDIT: Which windows version are you running?
Tried that... several times in fact, it doesn't seem to help.

I'm running Win XP Home.

EDIT,
never mind, I figured it out. I needed to also download the ansi application in the list that was provided. Originally I had thought I needed to choose just one of the given download links. :rolleyes:
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