I am making a Ninja/Sorceror using Zaur as the race.
The classes each require 30 intelligence to take, but I am wondering how much intelligence as my goal for the whole game. Its good to decide early as you can raise intelligence first, then get the savings in skills costs.
I think 30 intelligence would be all I need. Sure I get a small savings for more intelligence, but I have to invest more into intelligence too, meaning my character is always at less power than a hypothetical character who used points on other stats (in other words I am skeptical that the return pays the initial investment).
Of course I am unsure how devestating intelligence is for magic. I plan on majoring in nether magic (2 learning bonus) with a minor in arcane (1 bonus) for some blasting of physical immune creatures. Oh and of course the ninjas physical fighting presence.
Also, anyone else thought of good ninja combos?
My thoughts
Ninja - Celestial *good almost picked instead of Sorceror
Ninja - Paladin *why not take Celestial...are you really going to be able to raise heavy armor with no learning bonus?
Ninja - Marauder *redundancy in dual wield light weapons (new skill for both NOT same as cumulative learning bonus) a big turnoff.
Ninja - Knight *not sure what this adds.. You do plan on dual wielding LIGHT weapons. How heavy armor/shield going to help with no learning bonus
Ninja,Imperial - *unless you can dual wield light polearms which I doubt...do get extra bonus to athletics however.
Ninja - Sorceror *my pick
Ninja - Battlemage -similar to Paladin (hard to raise armor with no learning bonus)
I think thats all...I donn't think you can be an oriental in sisterhood.
Claudius
How Much Intelligence Do I Need?
How Much Intelligence Do I Need?
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I agree about the Int stat, not really worth a huge investment other than early in the game. just get 30 asap and then use your points on more pratical skills. Unless some replies that Int makes magic more powerful.
Your right about raising your heavy armor w/o learning bonuses it's very diffucult. You need level 12 HA to wear Deathlord Chest, legs, and shoulders. But, even with regular plate or crimison your armor is much higher vs just MA. The helmets are the same, the medium helms kinda blow vs. most of the heavy.
The other thing that may influence your decision is that your ninja/Sorceror can't use heavy weapons the paladin and battlemage can. You may plan on just on using magic and your hands to fight. There are many more good HW to choose from and acuire. If you do stick with MW I found a great MW in Tomb of Souls today, the Katana of the Sun. Good luck
Your right about raising your heavy armor w/o learning bonuses it's very diffucult. You need level 12 HA to wear Deathlord Chest, legs, and shoulders. But, even with regular plate or crimison your armor is much higher vs just MA. The helmets are the same, the medium helms kinda blow vs. most of the heavy.
The other thing that may influence your decision is that your ninja/Sorceror can't use heavy weapons the paladin and battlemage can. You may plan on just on using magic and your hands to fight. There are many more good HW to choose from and acuire. If you do stick with MW I found a great MW in Tomb of Souls today, the Katana of the Sun. Good luck
with respect to the ninja/paladin or ninja/battlemage I am still puzzled why even invest in heavy weapons? Wouldn't I want to either take advantage of dual wield LIGHT weapons or else ninjitsu?
Also, I'm a little concerned about the armor. My character will have no learning bonus for armor or shield and no requirement from the ninja lord side of things. I was planning on just not using armor for a big savings in points that can be spent elsewhere. I did plan on using a light shield to give me the ability to actively (arcade) block things, but I would only put the points I need to use the best value light shield that I have.
What do people think about the advantages/disadvantages of doing this (no armor)?
claudius
Also, I'm a little concerned about the armor. My character will have no learning bonus for armor or shield and no requirement from the ninja lord side of things. I was planning on just not using armor for a big savings in points that can be spent elsewhere. I did plan on using a light shield to give me the ability to actively (arcade) block things, but I would only put the points I need to use the best value light shield that I have.
What do people think about the advantages/disadvantages of doing this (no armor)?
claudius
Right Speech has four aspects: 1. Not lying, but speaking the truth, 2. Avoiding rude and coarse words, but using gentle speech beneficial to the listener, 3. Not slandering, but promoting friendliness and unity, 4. Avoiding frivolous speech, but saying only what is appropriate and beneficial.
You will need some armor, you will have the points to spend. The amont of Xp you need to spend will be trivial after trial of elders or a visit to the moonbeasts. You will want MW, but I've never played with just light.
As far as Heavy vs. light duel. This is a common misconception. Duel light should actually be called off-hand weapons skill. My crusader/marauder use a Heavy weapon on the main hand, and a light weapon in the OFF-HAND. Deathlords can uses a Med weapon in this spot. Also there is no use raising Dual light skill above 1. You can see this in the walkthrough tips section.
the HW are really superior to most MH, some carry a magical bonus (like my diamond light greatsword) also some HW need both hands to use. Like the blade of death.
As far as Heavy vs. light duel. This is a common misconception. Duel light should actually be called off-hand weapons skill. My crusader/marauder use a Heavy weapon on the main hand, and a light weapon in the OFF-HAND. Deathlords can uses a Med weapon in this spot. Also there is no use raising Dual light skill above 1. You can see this in the walkthrough tips section.
the HW are really superior to most MH, some carry a magical bonus (like my diamond light greatsword) also some HW need both hands to use. Like the blade of death.
Thanks for the information on the heavy weapons and armor. I will have to think about this further as far as the 2nd sub class (I definately want a ninja lord for style reasons). Much appreciated. And I'll check the walkthrough tips too.
claudius
claudius
Right Speech has four aspects: 1. Not lying, but speaking the truth, 2. Avoiding rude and coarse words, but using gentle speech beneficial to the listener, 3. Not slandering, but promoting friendliness and unity, 4. Avoiding frivolous speech, but saying only what is appropriate and beneficial.