Best Longsword

Berethor · Post by **Berethor** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:24 pm

Since there are so many Decent ones in the game I want to find out which one is the best. Which one do you think is the best and why?

I'm partial to The Answerer+4. Good Thac0, AR and MR drain, this weapon packs a punch.

RBitG · Post by **RBitG** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:49 pm

The Daystar, Sunray FTW

It's not as good as the other sword attack-wise, but being able to cast Daystar when you're fighting Bohdi and the Vampires, Kangaxx the Lich, etc. makes up for it all.

Thrifalas · Post by **Thrifalas** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:58 pm

They all have their advantages... if they were wielded by fighters with 20 str, Blackrazor would cut it 'cause of the leveldrain. If they were wielded by fighters with 10 str, angur would raise it to 22 and probably win... the lower level, the more dangerous the blackrazor would be... if they were fighter/mages then the answerer is good for draining magical resistance... and so on and so forth...

I'd go for Blackrazor though. It's definately the most stylish.

TonyMontana1638 · Post by **TonyMontana1638** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:29 pm

I went with daystar because I'm a fan of Sunray, you get it early in the game and I think it's pretty elegant.

Ravager · Post by **Ravager** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:40 pm

Hmm, I'll say Blackrazor, despite having to wait a long time for it to be available and being practically useless in SoA because of that.

Sparrow · Post by **Sparrow** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:07 am

I play a goody-two-shoes, so I always give Blackrazor back, when getting the tears of Bhaal. So I never get to use it. I'll vote for Daystar, but I use and know more about 2 handed swords.

Gaal Dornik · Post by **Gaal Dornik** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:30 am

Most of them arent available half of the game, and the one which does, is a +2 anti-undead weapon(daystar). The best longsword is therefore the Blade of Roses, which is a +3 weapon. Replaced in ToB by Angurvadal +5. Why? because if its the main tank, with high str, he probably uses blunt weps, or katanas.

Secondary or third tank usually needs some str 22. And not to forget lvl drain immunity, which is not that critical in ToB, but still very nice to have.

MR drain, fighters will not have it anyway, and mages will not be hit or they are dead.
Blackrazer makes you evil.
Face it, longswords just arent that strong in Bg2

Crabfish · Post by **Crabfish** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:14 am

I'd go with Blackrazor. It's very neat and has some devestating abilities. Long story short: it rocks!

As to Daystar: seeing that the sunray ability seems to be the main reason that people likes it, I must point out that the sunray is useable even if the sword's not currently equipped, just as long as it's in one of the quick weapon slots. Then you can use some better sword to hack at your foes and still have the undead-smacker ability that is runray available.

Angurvadal's biggest drawback, IMHO, is the strength it gives. Because of it, the sword is unusable together with, say Crom Faeyr (at least with Crom in off hand), or a character with 22+ strength. Well, not totally unusable, but who would want there strength nerfed?
I for one would think that Crom and Angur would make for a interesting combo. But alas. :/

Blade of the Roses is the best low level long sword, correct, (especially since it's stealable) but the lack of strong abilities makes it less competeable with the later ones.

My current mainchar - a dwarven wizard slayer - uses Blackrazor together with the Flail of Ages. Very nice. So very, very nice.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:28 am

Crabfish wrote:I'd go with Blackrazor. It's very neat and has some devestating abilities. Long story short: it rocks!

Agreed, IMO.

As to Daystar: seeing that the sunray ability seems to be the main reason that people likes it, I must point out that the sunray is useable even if the sword's not currently equipped, just as long as it's in one of the quick weapon slots. Then you can use some better sword to hack at your foes and still have the undead-smacker ability that is runray available.

Yes, but the question posed wasn't what's the best longsword to use, but simply the best longsword. There is no single, objectively chosen longsword that's better than all the others mentioned. It's a matter of playing style, and class choices. If I had no cleric or Aerie in my party, Daystar would become my favorite toy. Similarly, I can see why some folks might prefer the Blade of Roses.

Crabfish · Post by **Crabfish** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:44 am

[QUOTE=fable]Yes, but the question posed wasn't what's the best longsword to use, but simply the best longsword. There is no single, objectively chosen longsword that's better than all the others mentioned. It's a matter of playing style, and class choices. If I had no cleric or Aerie in my party, Daystar would become my favorite toy. Similarly, I can see why some folks might prefer the Blade of Roses.[/QUOTE]

Good point. Still, I don't think that one, good ability makes a sword better than one who has plenty, no matter the circumstances. More useful, yes, but not better. Two eaches own, aye?

The comment also served as a tip to those who didn't know about this, but I figure that such a person don't exists here. Heh.

Thrifalas · Post by **Thrifalas** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:13 pm

[QUOTE=Crabfish]Angurvadal's biggest drawback, IMHO, is the strength it gives. Because of it, the sword is unusable together with, say Crom Faeyr (at least with Crom in off hand), or a character with 22+ strength. Well, not totally unusable, but who would want there strength nerfed?
I for one would think that Crom and Angur would make for a interesting combo. But alas. :/[/QUOTE]

Are you being serious? Honestly?

There is ONE single (good) weapon in the game that won't cope with Angur. And the combo would not be close to good. It would be really... useless. And it's impossible for you to have more than two character with 22+ strenght anyway, as the only thing to get it is wielding Crom or playing Halforc with SoA ending bonus, Deck bonus and Lum's bonus.

There is no frikkin' way that you can consider a set strenght to 22 to be a drawback...

Try some combo that might actually be usefull, like Angur+Blackrazor... for exactly 25 str. :]

Sytze · Post by **Sytze** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:38 am

The Equalizer (and second Daystar). Why?

Read these threads, because this question has been asked and answered more than ones.

1: [url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20069&highlight=Equalizer"]Alson's discovery[/url]

2: [url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63427&highlight=Equalizer"]Another discussion about Longswords[/url]

Crabfish · Post by **Crabfish** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:37 am

[QUOTE=Thrifalas]Are you being serious? Honestly?

There is ONE single (good) weapon in the game that won't cope with Angur. And the combo would not be close to good. It would be really... useless. And it's impossible for you to have more than two character with 22+ strenght anyway, as the only thing to get it is wielding Crom or playing Halforc with SoA ending bonus, Deck bonus and Lum's bonus.

There is no frikkin' way that you can consider a set strenght to 22 to be a drawback...

Try some combo that might actually be usefull, like Angur+Blackrazor... for exactly 25 str. :][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I exaggerated a bit perhaps, but notice that i wrote biggest, not big. Stating such, I don't see it as a major drawback, just found it to be a little tedious when my kensai dualed longswords with Crom. A good one, by the way, which excludes Blackrazor.

Berethor · Post by **Berethor** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:41 am

Wow

I can't believe I missed that! Take the +3 Thac0 bonus and +6 damage bonus of the Equalizer in the off hand and add it to the +4 thac0 and +4 damage by the daystar..thats +7 Thac0 and +10 damage!!! Of course that's only against chaotic evil opponents but most of them are.

Aztaroth · Post by **Aztaroth** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:44 am

I'll say Blackrazor, mostly because its name is cool

In my current game, where my character (a paladin) uses longswords, I wont use it (for obvious reasons) but I've also got the Item Upgrade mod-thingy, so I'm currently using Equalizer and Imp. Daystar. Occasionally switching to Flail of the Ages.

Also, Adjatha the Drinker is a pretty cool early longsword

'Specially combined with Boots of Speed... allows you to heal pretty well while slicin' n' dicin'

Berethor · Post by **Berethor** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:53 am

It's pretty sad too because Rangers can't get the weapon, even to use with another character or he will become a Fallen Ranger IIRC.

P.S. This is unrelated to the topic but does Edwin say what Aztaroth's signature says? I wouldn't know because I play a goody two-shoe party with an occasional Viconia.

Aztaroth · Post by **Aztaroth** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:48 pm

In BG1, yes. When you keep selecting the same character over and over again in BG1 they start saying stuff like that

This wasn't in BG2, though, sadly enough

BG_DaDDy · Post by **BG_DaDDy** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:01 pm

blackrazor in SoA, answerer in ToB since most monsters require +4 to hit. The -AC also help against high AC monsters, and -spell resist helps ur mage.

Lonelypilgrim · Post by **Lonelypilgrim** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:47 am

I like the Equaliser aswell as Daystar.

Daystar is elegant and pure.It makes the person who wears it feel holy inside,making the undead flee in fear.Sunray is also a nice spell,finely molded into the sword.

Equaliser is again,one of my favorites because of its looks.Big fan of blue,and dual and triple edged swords.

Dont care much about how strong they are,as long as they look nice.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:55 pm

Oh My! Yet another thread about the best longsword! My God, when will we stop?

Currently, the longest swords I use are daggers, for fun in the game. However...

The Equalizer is neat.
The Answerer is cheesy! (Gorgonzola-smelling like)
Daystar, however, is my choice, despite it being slower and not as + as the other weapons. (being +2 is the only problem of the sword).