Page Fault Errors

i4v02v95i5p09k9 · Post by **i4v02v95i5p09k9** » Thu May 27, 2004 6:59 pm

For about a year now I have been restricted to an Xbox due to this abomination known as Page Fault Errors. There are two main errors that I recieve, which I am led to believe are connected to Direct X and my Video Card (NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440) having some conflicts with each other (shh, but I think my videocard was hitting on Direct's woman

) and now as a result, every time I play a game involving Direct X, for example Railroad Tycoon 2, Warcraft III, Raven Shield, Command and Conquer Generals, Diablo II, Empire Earth, etc. etc., I get to play for about 5 minutes, then the screen flickers and Im taken back to my desktop, where afterwords I am given another pagefault error, I will list both below eventually. I have of course attempted to get help from Bill Gates, he told me to make sure all non-system ap's were closed before I played the game. Ok, sure Bill, done. Didnt work. So then he tells me to start with a clean boot. No Bill that didnt work either, schmuck. So now Im **** out of luck with Microsoft and Direct X support. Maybe someone here has run into similiar problems in the past and could be able to help me.

Here are the errors when looking under "Show Details"

DDHELP caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:baaba47e.
Registers:
EAX=baaba47e CS=0167 EIP=baaba47e EFLGS=00010286
EBX=00000020 SS=016f ESP=007dfd3c EBP=007dfd4c
ECX=00000000 DS=016f ESI=00008dc2 FS=528f
EDX=00008dde ES=016f EDI=007dfd54 GS=5277
Bytes at CS:EIP

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EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:071df95a.
Registers:
EAX=00000003 CS=0167 EIP=071df95a EFLGS=00010206
EBX=00000000 SS=016f ESP=071df83c EBP=071df868
ECX=00000000 DS=016f ESI=00000003 FS=0eaf
EDX=01000300 ES=016f EDI=0649916c GS=259e
Bytes at CS:EIP:
02 7c 00 00 00 00 3c fe 23 07 40 fe 23 07 38 fe
Stack dump:
071df95c 05f8b1ec 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000003 0000000d 00000000 0000000d 00000000 071df8e4 7c40161e 00000000 071df8f0 071df8d8

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » Thu May 27, 2004 7:22 pm

Page faults are usually memory addressing errors. Try running a memory tester such at Memtest86 and check if your RAM is working properly. I'd also recommend defragging your hard drive and setting a static pagefile.

Also, which version of the Nvidia drivers are you using?

i4v02v95i5p09k9 · Post by **i4v02v95i5p09k9** » Thu May 27, 2004 8:18 pm

I dont know if this helps but this is what it said under the control panel/system properties/device manager

4.14.10.5664

Also, I dont know if this helps either but a number of times I get page fault errors involving KERNAL32.blah blah blah

I'll try defragging

Oh and btw, this problem isnt physical right? (dust, damage, etc)

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Fri May 28, 2004 12:28 am

As Mr.Fibble says - try getting your memory tested, it is very likely that you have a bad memory block.

If all is fine with memory - try checking the temperature of your CPU. That could also result in a great number of page faults, if it is running to hot.

If it isn't something hardware - it is time to look at Direct X in connection with your graphics drivers.
What Direct X version are you running?

i4v02v95i5p09k9 · Post by **i4v02v95i5p09k9** » Fri May 28, 2004 12:17 pm

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sat May 29, 2004 1:49 am

Have you tried testing the memory and checking the CPU/Motherboard temperature?

i4v02v95i5p09k9 · Post by **i4v02v95i5p09k9** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:09 pm

No.. I dont have access to a free memory tester.. and the CPU temp isnt an issue

i4v02v95i5p09k9 · Post by **i4v02v95i5p09k9** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:10 pm

I figured it out.. The first slot (of two) of my memory blocks was bad. So I unattached the primary and it just relies on the secondary, which isnt bad. Just im reduced to somewhere around 262 speed.

pinkwave · Post by **pinkwave** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:40 am

OMG FINALLY! I have been having the exact same problems now for months and NOBODY can figure out the solution. I have uninstalled, reinstalled, updated, "downdated" scanned. I even uninstalled and reinstalled windows. (98SE by the way). I've been getting "fatal exceptions" "page faults" "errors". I swear it's a different problem everytime...depending on how I've tried to fix the previous error. I also have the NVidia GeForce4 MX 440. I have just installed the newest DirectX 9.0c. Still I can't run ANY games....new or old. I'm ready to take a hammer to this thing. Sometimes it crashes to my desktop, sometimes it locks up, sometimes it crashes my whole system. Could you PLEASE tell me a solution once and for all! I'm ready to have a nervous breakdown I swear. Also if you haven't noticed I'm no computer genius so make it simple. If you can help me....my husband thanks you, my kids thank you and I thank you....I've been impossible to live with

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:46 am

Well - have you tried the suggestions in this thread?

pinkwave · Post by **pinkwave** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:10 pm

Well I'm pretty sure my problem is the same as i4v's. The errors are the same. Ummm yes I've tried some of these solutions and more! But as far as a memory tester? what's that? and if it costs money forget it...hubby doesn't want to pay for anything computerish. He hates them

as I am beginning to. I'm quite sure it's my NVidia card. I'll tell you why. I played ALL Tomb Raider games on my original system. When Angel of Darkness came out I had to install the new card....took all day <----idiot! It ran fine except for all the bugs in the game. Then when I tried to play my older games again, the disk would be constantly running/reading...whatever, then the game would eventually lock up or crash....infuriating! So I've been trying to find a game I COULD play ever since. I played Myst with few problems, but other than that...nothing! I have defragged a number of times, but what the heck is a static pagefile?? I have the newest version of NVidia drivers. I'm also running the most recent version of directX. I've had different versions of NVidia drivers running with different versions of directX. As far as temperature. I actually have the cover off my computer and the fan is working fine (if that's what you mean?

) I've had it off for some time. So I'm thinking i4v's last reply could be my problem but what the heck does that mean (memory blocks, primary, secondary, speed) duh I hope this doesn't involve actually touching the inside of my computer

Thanks for your quick reply by the way

pinkwave · Post by **pinkwave** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:19 pm

OOPS sorry I just noticed your hatred for smilies

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:23 pm

Well - Flibble up there ^ has linked to a memory tester

And if it is the memory/RAM that is the problem (which it likely is) then the insides of the computer needs to be meddled with

(But most anybody can do it - also I'm sure there has to be somebody with a little confidence in computers in everybodys social circles wither work or freetime).

The temperature issue is that if your CPU becomes to hot it have difficulties in reading/writing the "right places" and that can crash the computers. Simply checking the fan is running isn't enough - a fan can run and still have the CPU overheat, for instance because the fan isn't running well enough. You need some program (if your motherboard can do it) that meassures temperature (some BIOS can do it also).

But I'm sure most of this is giberish, however - I'm rather confident that your problem is offspring of RAM problems. So if you (or somebody you know) can test the RAM it would be the prober course of action.

pinkwave · Post by **pinkwave** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:53 pm

Ok I see that link up there...went there....all Greek to me! What do I download and then what?? duh! As far as computer friends. My sister is a Systems Administrator....but clueless when it comes to getting games to run. She still thinks I'm doing something wrong and tells me to stop listening to these people in the forums

She thinks I'm screwing up my computer by changing things. grrrrr It's not worth asking her anymore. Her solution is to buy a new computer...yeah right I'm rich. Not only that when she's not at work, the last thing she wants to see is a computer. Alright for her she plays her games on a PS2. She says buy one. No thanks I prefer my games on computer

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:59 pm

Well - if your sister is a systems administrator, just tell her you think your RAM is bad and ask (demand) her to test it for you.
If she asks why you think so, then tell her that you are getting memory errors when running applications

Don't mention any forum or anything you have altered.

Otherwise - Mr.Flibble has liked to a program further up in this thread- if you check his post. You could try and take a look at it. I've never used it so I can't tell you how to do it.
I usually just change my RAM (or add more

) when I think I have faulty RAM. It isn't terrible expensive anymore (not compared to 10 years ago

), however - if you run an older machine it could be difficult to find good RAM for that one.

However - this is one of the problems that can be difficult to debug/find if one isn't all that familiar with computers, and therefore it might be better left up to your sister.
(oh - and you can also tell her that forums are an excellent place to get help. Afterall - some of us are educated in computers

)

pinkwave · Post by **pinkwave** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:45 pm

hahaha demand? You don't know my sister and she's younger than I am....brat! Sometimes I think the people on the forums ARE smarter. At least when it comes to games. Some of the things she suggests are stupid if you ask me

I've been to her work and all I see are a bunch of big machines with a million wires, down in the basement of a huge hotel! Well she has a few regular computers in her office...but still! No wonder she's a little nutty!
Thanks for the computer jargon "my RAM is bad because I'm getting too many memory errors when running applications"

sounds better than FIX THIS STUPID THING!" As far as Mr. Flibbles link...I went there and didn't understand a darn thing!
I do think it's a hardware issue. Hardware right? Meaning something inside my computer that has to be replaced? It might be cheaper at this point to buy a new computer then. This is a cheap celeron 533 Mhz...whatever that means. I've already increased my RAM (obviously) it WAS 32 MB...can you imagine?

and my graphics card of course. Could it be a faulty graphics card?? hmmm Could I not go back to my original? It's still in there (I was told in another forum to take it out ) but my sister said no! or am I talking stupid? Don't answer that!

pinkwave · Post by **pinkwave** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:20 pm

me again

This is getting embarassing. I've just been reading about game crashes and one site said to update your graphics driver AND AGP driver. I thought that was the same thing? Does that mean I have to update my ATI Rage Pro that came with my machine AND the NVidia card that I replaced it with....oh I'm so confused

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:35 am

AGP drivers are not the same as graphics drivers.
AGP drivers are for the port itself - where as the graphics drivers are for the card. The AGP drivers are most often provided by the motherboard manufactor, and the graphics by either the card manufactor or by nividia themselves. (or ATI when running with ATI based cards)

However - the way you mention your crashes - I would not think that this (re)installing said drivers would help much. Not with page faults.

However - it might be worth it to start looking to upgrade your machine and possible buying another one. It is afterall always an option and computers aren't that expensive anymore, at least if you don't need the "state-of-the-art" hardware. It should be very possible to either find computers on sale or if you know somebody with the knowlegde for it - get them to assamble a computer for you from custom components.