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(NWN) Archer character possibile? *SPOILER*

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(NWN) Archer character possibile? *SPOILER*

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Would it be possibile to finish the game with an archer? I started an elven one hes currently level 10 in Chapter2 and dooing fairly well, He dosent have much problems in terms of killing for now. I decided to use longbows for the extra attacks per round, and if i drink potions of speed he fires at incredible rates with rapid shot at minor attack penalties, i currently have 24 Dex and 18 Str to achive some damage with mighty bows, i took the elven court bow from the temple of helm at the end of the first chapter and i think i can safely use it untill i get a composite +3 or a better bow.

He has two attacks at +19 and one attack at +14 per round the damage isnt bad 1-8+5 (19-20 X3 ) criticals usualy do around 30+ damage, next level with boots of speed he should have 5 attacks per round and a str of 20 from Daelans amulet.

My question is has someone else finished NWN with a ranged fighter? If so what where difficulties or bad points of make one and was it good to make one? And dose anyone know if Taralash is a random drop or if it can be found in a specific place, im guessing its one of the better bows around.
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I've only played with an Arcane Archer prestige class (HotU). My first build was all about consitancy, since Arcane Archers have the highest AB in the game. Worked very well, even in online PvP. Very limited damage was its problem. My second build was a Rogue/Wiz/Archer which used sneak attacks to deal alot of damage. It also had the advantage of self-concealment. It didn't work that well against dragons though...

Both my build aimed for max DEX and AC, ignoring STR and therefore mighty bows.

I'm pretty sure (85%) that Taralash is a random drop.

If you have HotU, Bioware has said that they will soon implement Devastating Critical for archers!!!
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Nope no Sou or Hotu, but its going great the white dragon died in about 5 minutes didnt even touch me, reached level 11, i have 5 attacks per round with rapid shot at outragous bonuses i think my lowest is +8 highest is +20.

So far i have had no problems in act3, hes a pure fighter, i was thinking of taking rogue but, lots of things are imune to sneak attacks, so i will just settle for the BAB from fighter levels.
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[QUOTE=Noober]I've only played with an Arcane Archer prestige class (HotU). <snip>
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Just to clarify - Arcane Archer is a SoU prestige class. You can't play it withouth SoU installed.
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Yes i know thats why i clearly labeled this thread NWN, because i cant acces prestige classes or feats given by the other mods.
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The very fact that Sneak Attack works with ranged attacks means that a high-level rogue might be the best choice for a ranged dude. But, let's check out all the possibilities, shall we?

Wizard - Unless you multiclass this guy, we're pretty confident he won't be a great archer. He does have Truestrike, but that lasts 9 seconds. Since you only have NWN, not SoA, you'll never be able to Arcane Archer, so if you ask me, Wizards are out.

Sorcerer - ditto.

Paladin - Actually, a few levels of paladin, in my opinion, can't hurt any build that puts at least a few points into charisma, seeing as you add your charisma modifyer to your saving throws and at lvl 2 get immunity to fear. However, we're making an archer, who focuses on dex, not cha, so pally is out.

Druid - I can't see why a druid would make a good archer. I really can't. His summoned animal helper might be useful to tank a bit (bear would be good), but besides that, a druid is really a caster, not a fighter.

Cleric - everybody knows how powerful clerics are. But they're still, not good archers. They're focused on wisdom, charisma, and strength, not dex. So, on to the next!

Barbarian - Are you joking? Perhaps barbarian fast movement might be OK, and rage + ranged attack might be funny to look at, but let's be serious here. All role-playing thoughts aside, a Barbarian just isn't suited for more than chucking a few throwing axes before switching to his trusty Greatsword/Greataxe/other randomly very large weapon.

Bard - now this IS an interesting consideration. The bard's song might actually come in handy during combat, helping you to prevail, and a bard has a large pool of skills that could help out too. Sadly, a bard has no real bent toward ranged combat. I'd say it's the most neutral toward such a build as it's gonna get.

Fighter - aaah, now we get to the interesting stuff. Now, some people might say, fighter all the way! All those feats, and they have excellent base attack bonus (BAB from now on). But, if you ask me, if you're going for ranged combat, what feats do ya really want? Point Blank Shot, definately. Probably Rapid Shot. What else? I ask you, seriously, what else would you need, besides that? A fighter's greatest advantage is in his massive resevior of feats, and yet you really don't need all that many to be useful and good. I still say, get 4 levels of fighter, for weapon specialization-longbow, and then leave the rest for rogue.

Rogue - Like I've been saying, the rogue's really the choice here. Remember, you don't have to be invisible to make devestating sneak attacks. You just have to flank your enemy. There are several ways to do this. The best way, especially if you're planning to play the game all the way through, is just to get Daelen to tank for you. Problem solved. Other ways include:
Triple classing. Get 1 level of either Cleric, Druid, Sorcerer or Wizard. Get your summoned creature/animal companion/familiar to tank for you. Not recommended.
Use sneak attack as just a precursor. Bam, big damage, then fight like a tank, only with a bow instead of a sword/shield or 2hander. Also not reccomended, as you'll never be as good a tank.
So, pretty much, this build relies on having Daelen around. Sorry. But look at the benefits you get! Massive power to your bow attack, as Sneak Attack, with a lvl 16 rogue, is very high, plus you get a massive skill resevoir, and you get use magic device skill, which trust me is great for using things like monk robes and the like (your dex is going to be high, so you want very very light armor, aka monk robes). I have finished the game with just such a character. It was difficult going in several places (namely, such places where sneak attack was worth jack, i.e. undead and construct areas), but not impossible. against undead, I brought Linu along, for the constructs, well, let's just say I used a lot of healing pots and Daelen died several times.
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Makes sense, but i'm already a level 12 fighter, would there be much point in getting some rogue levels?

I found the battles to be a joke so far though, the Balor Lord in the creator ruins died in less then 30 seconds...
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Getting ready for the last fight, the double dragon fight was a joke i will post some links to screenshots sometime.

*EDIT* Finished, good ending battle, but Mugrim was weaker then the dragons, gave her a brake and used the two swords of mugrims hand instead of my bow.
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