Please note that new user registrations disabled at this time.

Playing guitar...

Anything goes... just keep it clean.
User avatar
Mr Sleep
Posts: 11273
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2000 10:00 pm
Location: Dead End Street
Contact:

Post by Mr Sleep »

Originally posted by Minerva
I played the alto-saxpone in my school's symphonic band (brass+woods+percussion band, otherwise known as wind orchestra) for 6 years. I had great time, and the band members, whom we've known each other since we were 12, are my best mates. :) I gave up because I know I did as hard as I could by the time I left school.


In that respect we differ then because I used to play in a school band on my cello and I know I didn't give 100% I think sometimes I barely gave fifty percent effort. I was young, I didn't really care :o

I wonder if anyone else has any instrument skills, we could form a cross global band :D I can think of about 15 members who would make perfect roadies too!
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
User avatar
Minerva
Posts: 4992
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2000 11:00 pm
Location: Somewhere beyond the sea
Contact:

Post by Minerva »

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
In that respect we differ then because I used to play in a school band on my cello and I know I didn't give 100% I think sometimes I barely gave fifty percent effort. I was young, I didn't really care :o


Hehe, my world evolved around my band during that time. :D Because of the national school band contest, we went to practice and rehearsal during summer holidays (leaving us only 10 days to finish our home work of entire summer! :D ). We did all the planning for our annual concert, like advertising and promoting. I ate twice as much as I do now (and still lost weight during summer!), and thrice as loud as now, because of the strong stomach muscle, lung and special breathing. I spoke from bottom of my tummy. :D
"Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight."

A word to the wise is sufficient
Minerva (Semi-retired SYMer)
User avatar
Mr Sleep
Posts: 11273
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2000 10:00 pm
Location: Dead End Street
Contact:

Post by Mr Sleep »

Originally posted by Minerva
Hehe, my world evolved around my band during that time. :D Because of the national school band contest, we went to practice and rehearsal during summer holidays (leaving us only 10 days to finish our home work of entire summer! :D ). We did all the planning for our annual concert, like advertising and promoting. I ate twice as much as I do now (and still lost weight during summer!), and thrice as loud as now, because of the strong stomach muscle, lung and special breathing. I spoke from bottom of my tummy. :D


Perhaps it will be different if I ever decide to form a band with people I know and on an instrument I like, since I was more or less forced into playing in a band I didn't have that much interest in it, it wasn't really my choice and I was impetuous when I was young (a lots changes, eh? ;) )

That sounds like quite an experience, strong stomach muscles, I need some of those, get rid of my belly :D Not sure how that will help anything but it's an important issue to my guitar (somehow) anyway, erm...Apparently one is supposed to do most of ones breathing from the bottom of ones tummy, relaxation and so forth.
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
User avatar
Chanak
Posts: 4677
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Pandemonium
Contact:

Post by Chanak »

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Indeed, I'm a strange boy sometimes :D I like some rock songs but it isn't my main musical choice. I already know how to play the kazoo, I'm the kazoo master!
There's a Turkish miiltary band that features a kazoo section. :eek:
Shame, I'm quite precious about it, it is my first guitar, so it is treated with respect by all or they face consequences ;)
So was I. It didn't stop people from picking it up and abusing it while I wasn't there. The horrors of communal living. :(
Like I say it won't be for a good few months now but I'll probably put a deposit down on a nice one I've been eying up, what brand do you recommend?


Gibson, Alvarez, Takamine, Ovation, Yamaha...or the best, a Martin or Taylor. I recommend Yamaha, they make a fine instrument overall for the money. But if you're strapped for money, buy something cheap for now. Basically any steel string acoustic that features durable machine heads (that won't fail under string tension, thereby keeping you out of tune :mad: ), a neck that isn't bowed, and an action that you can't fit your thumb under. Oh man, I know I've recommended an acoustic for building up strength, but there are some cheaply made ones out there that will kill you instead of helping you. :eek:
In this respect I haven't been too bad so far, it's been pretty eclectic, lots of different artists, I'll list some of them at some point.
My entire perception of music changed once I learned to play the guitar. You could say it was an enlightening experience, broadening my musical horizons to the point where I can just about listen to anything, and appreciate what I hear.
I have learned a modicum of sheet music, I used to play piano and cello you know but trying to remember the names of notes is my only real problem, so while I'm playing 1st to third to 5 fret on the first string I couldn't telly you what they were without having to think about it a bit, I believe it's F, G, A but then I had to think about that ;)
The clef is different. Anyway, people have generally come up with sound advice in the thread, and it's worth pursuing all of it. Essentially, here's what I did: played with other musicians whenever I could; got tab books for those riffs and parts I wanted to learn how to play; bought a book called the "Guitar Manual" which was in-depth and went into musical notation, music theory, and technique; played until my finger tips were raw. I think you can roll up all of the advice given here and flesh out what works best for you.
What are the general opinions concerning singing along with tunes? I know it's worth it but are any of you any good at it? :)


Can you sing? :eek:

I developed that faculty after I was brave enough to play in front of other people. I have a good enough voice, and actually prefer that. Doing that *and* playing with other musicians is the real test, though. It challenges your timing and forces you to sing on key. ;)
CYNIC, n.:
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.
-[url="http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/a.html"]The Devil's Dictionary[/url]
User avatar
Lintelyg
Posts: 129
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:58 am
Location: Under the bridge
Contact:

Post by Lintelyg »

I tought myself how to play guitar when I was 12 for the most part of it. IMO it doesn't matter what kind of guitar your playing, neither does the setup of the guitar matter as long as you can make music with it, there is no problem.
A life without freedom, is no life at all
-William Wallace
User avatar
Scayde
Posts: 8739
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2002 1:05 pm
Location: Texas
Contact:

Post by Scayde »

Originally posted by Chanak
.guitarists like Randy Rhoads (of Ozzy fame), Joe Satriani, David T. Chastain, Yngwie Malmsteen, Jake E. Lee (replacement for Rhoads)...the list goes on. Don't stop there. Other guitarists I would recommend looking into for inspriation:

Andy Summers (The Police, the chord king), Alex Lifeson (Rush), U2's guitarist (aaaah, I forget his name), Chet Atkins, Mark Knopfler (The Dire Straits), Jimi Hendrix (required :mad: ), Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin), Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Steve Morse, Eric Johnson...



SRV....Umm baby :cool:

.....I would add Kenny Wayne Sheppard, Bo Diddly, Buddy Guy, BB King, Muddy Waters and Leon Redbone to this list if anyone is interested in learning to play the blues ;)

Scayde Moody
(Pronounced Shayde)

The virtue of self sacrifice is the lie perpetuated by the weak to enslave the strong
User avatar
Minerva
Posts: 4992
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2000 11:00 pm
Location: Somewhere beyond the sea
Contact:

Post by Minerva »

Originally posted by Chanak
Can you sing? :eek:


He's a Welsh. Of course, he can sing. Catherine Zeta Jones proved. :D
"Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight."

A word to the wise is sufficient
Minerva (Semi-retired SYMer)
User avatar
Tamerlane
Posts: 4554
Joined: Fri May 18, 2001 10:00 pm
Location: The land of Oz
Contact:

Post by Tamerlane »

Originally posted by Chanak
Gibson, Alvarez, Takamine, Ovation, Yamaha...or the best, a Martin or Taylor. I recommend Yamaha, they make a fine instrument overall for the money.
Martin, the best with the exception of the Fender range. But asking a novice guitarist to buy a Fender is like asking a new driver to buy a Ferrari. :D You can get plenty of cheap Gibsons around if you look hard enough. As for me, I'm partial for the Australian brands. ;)
!
User avatar
Mr Sleep
Posts: 11273
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2000 10:00 pm
Location: Dead End Street
Contact:

Post by Mr Sleep »

Originally posted by Chanak
There's a Turkish miiltary band that features a kazoo section. :eek:
Perfect I'll just emigrate now!
Gibson, Alvarez, Takamine, Ovation, Yamaha...or the best, a Martin or Taylor.
What about Epiphone, I heard a few good things, tried it out in the store and it sounded pretty good. However I'll browse next time I'm there and look for something closer to what you said.

My dad has a rather horrible Steel String that is an absolute nightmare to play since the stamina isn't there in my hand, it's twice as bad as any other steel string I've tried to play.
My entire perception of music changed once I learned to play the guitar. You could say it was an enlightening experience, broadening my musical horizons to the point where I can just about listen to anything, and appreciate what I hear.
That's something I've never had a problem with, my collection is about as eclectic as anything can get ;) Well maybe a little eaggeration.
Can you sing? :eek:
I can indeed, pretty well so I've been told :o
I developed that faculty after I was brave enough to play in front of other people. I have a good enough voice, and actually prefer that. Doing that *and* playing with other musicians is the real test, though. It challenges your timing and forces you to sing on key. ;) [/b]


Well I haven't played with anyone else while singing yet so we shall see.

Minerva, I'd like to think I have a slightly more masculine voice than Catherine ;)
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
User avatar
Chanak
Posts: 4677
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Pandemonium
Contact:

Post by Chanak »

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Perfect I'll just emigrate now!
Okay, but there a few things about Turkish life you should know about first. They don't believe in toilets over there, nor in bathroom tissue. :eek:
What about Epiphone, I heard a few good things, tried it out in the store and it sounded pretty good. However I'll browse next time I'm there and look for something closer to what you said.

My dad has a rather horrible Steel String that is an absolute nightmare to play since the stamina isn't there in my hand, it's twice as bad as any other steel string I've tried to play.
Sounds like the kind of horrible guitar that could kill you. :eek:

Epiphone is fine, a division of Gibson, and an affordable line of guitars at that. That sounds like a good choice Sleepy. :cool:
That's something I've never had a problem with, my collection is about as eclectic as anything can get ;) Well maybe a little eaggeration.
Really? So I take it you have a collection of Native American chants on CD to go along with your set of Polka and waltz CDs? :D
I can indeed, pretty well so I've been told :o
I accidentally discovered that I possess a good singing voice. A friend heard me singing in my car, and complimented me (I was always too embarrassed to sing in public, still am kind of shy). :o
CYNIC, n.:
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.
-[url="http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/a.html"]The Devil's Dictionary[/url]
User avatar
Mr Sleep
Posts: 11273
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2000 10:00 pm
Location: Dead End Street
Contact:

Post by Mr Sleep »

Originally posted by Chanak
Okay, but there a few things about Turkish life you should know about first. They don't believe in toilets over there, nor in bathroom tissue. :eek:
Neither do I, I'm a hill billy after all ;)
Sounds like the kind of horrible guitar that could kill you. :eek:

Epiphone is fine, a division of Gibson, and an affordable line of guitars at that. That sounds like a good choice Sleepy. :cool:
It's okay for my dad but he has fingers twice the width and strength of mine since he's been building for many years. I was playing it for a bit when a string broke on my nilon string and I hadn't got a replacement and it killed my wrist completely.

That's what I thought, pretty cheap too :)
Really? So I take it you have a collection of Native American chants on CD to go along with your set of Polka and waltz CDs? :D
Not quite but I do have a bit of celtic music lying around somewhere :D
I accidentally discovered that I possess a good singing voice. A friend heard me singing in my car, and complimented me (I was always too embarrassed to sing in public, still am kind of shy). :o


Well I am the kind of guy who spends most of his time either listening to music or singing something. I'm particularly impressive when there is an old religious number that needs a powerful voice, not great for most contemporary music but in chapels it does surprise some people :D
I'd have to get drunk every night and talk about virility...And those Pink elephants I'd see.
User avatar
Chanak
Posts: 4677
Joined: Thu Jan 17, 2002 12:00 pm
Location: Pandemonium
Contact:

Post by Chanak »

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Neither do I, I'm a hill billy after all ;)
Of course you are. After all, the American hillbillies were mainly transplants from Wales and Scotland in the 19th century. ;)
It's okay for my dad but he has fingers twice the width and strength of mine since he's been building for many years. I was playing it for a bit when a string broke on my nilon string and I hadn't got a replacement and it killed my wrist completely.

That's what I thought, pretty cheap too :)
Epiphone makes a nice guitar for you to practice and learn on, good choice. I would personally recommend Yamaha to you when you're ready for a step up. They make a fine instrument; I was impressed by the quality of the machine heads, and the stability of the neck. It rarely ever bows, something you need to watch for with any guitar in your possession. This is why I used a mix of medium to light gauge strings. Bowed necks produce instability tuning-wise, and can also lead to annoying fret-buzz and muted notes. :mad:

And when you are an accomplished player, and wish to own a fine guitar of surpassing quality, look for a Martin or a Taylor, arguably some of the best made mass-produced guitar lines out there. ;)

A serious note concerning celtic music, and the people who inhabit the Appalachian Mountains here in the US: the correlations between Bluegrass, "Mountain" music, and Celtic music couldn't be any stronger. Yes, musically speaking, Bluegrass is very similar in form and structure to Irish music. Nickle Creek is a good example of a band who recognizes that.
Not quite but I do have a bit of celtic music lying around somewhere :D
Excellent inspiration there, lad. *scowls approvingly* I particularly like how the band Lunasa employs the guitar in their ensemble. Their guitarist is an exceptional musician...then again, they all are in that band. I'm a big fan of celtic music...the guitar isn't a native instrument, but I like how they have taken up it's use.

If you really want a workout, try to keep up with Irish bag pipes (argh, I know the name but I would butcher the spelling) in an Irish reel. :eek:
Well I am the kind of guy who spends most of his time either listening to music or singing something. I'm particularly impressive when there is an old religious number that needs a powerful voice, not great for most contemporary music but in chapels it does surprise some people :D
Interestingly enough, that kind of environment was where I began to sing in public. ;)
CYNIC, n.:
A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.
-[url="http://www.alcyone.com/max/lit/devils/a.html"]The Devil's Dictionary[/url]
Post Reply