Clothing, fashion, and lust (spam responsibly!)

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 12:56 am

Originally posted by Jaesha
No, as I live in Denmark I was already familiar with those costumes (no, not in the way you might think ) but people don´t really wear them for parties anymore... totally last year!
In Denmark, french brands like Chanel and Dior are really in, and small tops and tight jeans...

Sheesh, normal people don't wear them in Sweden either...you'll see it on people like the Minister of Agriculture on the Swedish national day and stuff like that... Well, unfortunately, you can still see it on elderly people out in the countryside when Midsummer is celebrated.

posted by Dottricia
What apeales to me on the oposite sex is shirts and ties, There are simply no competition there...

It is obvious you should have enjoyed the 1980's Dottius, it wasn't unusual for girls to use shirt and tie back then. People like Annie Lennox for instance, made that a fashion.

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:22 am

Originally posted by C Elegans

It is obvious you should have enjoyed the 1980's Dottius, it wasn't unusual for girls to use shirt and tie back then. People like Annie Lennox for instance, made that a fashion.

Its not uncommon today either... You just have to find the right sub-culture...

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:25 am

Originally posted by Jaesha
Any of you been to Scotland recently? Seems that everybody likes slipknot and korn all of a sudden, and wanted to dress up in all the baggy clothes available, not mentioning colouring their hair black and being pierced just about everywhere in the face...

Cheers

*Sigh* And when I was over there they seemed llike such a sensible people, too...

@CE-Those costumes were decidedly horrible.

In terms of what clothes I consider to be attractive, the obvious answer is none, but just an oversized T-shirt can be surprisingly attractive, esp. if it's one of mine that has been filched.
I'm such a dag...

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:30 am

Originally posted by Dottie
Its not uncommon today either... You just have to find the right sub-culture...

So, like many trends it has gone from avant garde subculture, to mainstream and back to subculture again. How would you describe the subcultures/s where this clothing style is most frequent?

@Ode: All straight men seem to find it attractive that women wear oversized men's clothes like T-shirts, shirts and boxers (even jeans, I have heard), but only if it is their clothes. It is obviously not at all as sexy if the woman has gone and bought these clothes in a shop, or if she has borrowed them from somebody else. So it seems this has nothing to do with clothes, rather with associations...

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:46 am

Well...

Originally posted by C Elegans

It is obviously not at all as sexy if the woman has gone and bought these clothes in a shop, or if she has borrowed them from somebody else. So it seems this has nothing to do with clothes, rather with associations...

...I wouldn't mind if she uses her father's or brother's...

*aherm* Back to the topic...

...I find "Sunday (Summer?) Dress" (?) (those one-piece blouseandlongskirt) really attractive for the opposite sex... coupled with slip-on sandals that would expose their flawless heels.

Used to be popular in the 90's back home...

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:47 am

Originally posted by C Elegans

So, like many trends it has gone from avant garde subculture, to mainstream and back to subculture again. How would you describe the subcultures/s where this clothing style is most frequent?

Hmm... thought you knew this already... guess your just trolling me to tell anyway for some sinister purpose...

Well, AFAIK its the synth oriented. There shirt&Tie + Baggy pants or miniskirt and DMs or similar shoe wear is quite common. Common colour themes are black&white or Red&black and in rare cases brown&black for upper body, and almost always black for the rest. Also most of this is unisex more or less, but imo looks better on woman... hrm.. I so wonder why I think that way...

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:56 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
@Ode: All straight men seem to find it attractive that women wear oversized men's clothes like T-shirts, shirts and boxers (even jeans, I have heard), but only if it is their clothes. It is obviously not at all as sexy if the woman has gone and bought these clothes in a shop, or if she has borrowed them from somebody else. So it seems this has nothing to do with clothes, rather with associations...

Of course, I thought that was common knowledge.

It signifies an easy familiarity and comfort, or something...

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:03 am

Originally posted by Dottie
Hmm... thought you knew this already... guess your just trolling me to tell anyway for some sinister purpose...
Well, AFAIK its the synth oriented. There shirt&Tie + Baggy pants or miniskirt and DMs or similar shoe wear is quite common. Common colour themes are black&white or Red&black and in rare cases brown&black for upper body, and almost always black for the rest.

Now you're being paranoid again, I am not trolling. I am like 10 years older than you = old fart = didn't now this fashion still existed, it sounds very similar to the 80's. In my time *puts on Fable voice, there were different subgroups of synth people, one groups were called "raw synths", they liked Kraftwerk, DAF, Einsturze NB and such. They dressed in highly unusual, baggy clothes with assymetrical cuts and often torn pieces of cloth here and there. They had hairstyles that looked like futuristic mushrooms.
Then you had the "synthpopers" who looked like you describe (they had the kind of hairstyle you have also) and listened to Depeche Mode, Ultravox, and other synthpop bands that were despised by the raw synths.

Personally, I didn't find any of these clothing styles especially attractive visually, since baggy clothes hide too much of the body shape IMO. On the other hand, baggy clothes often give very good access

Also most of this is unisex more or less, but imo looks better on woman... hrm.. I so wonder why I think that way...

Because you are a straight guy?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:46 am

Black rimmed glasses, the one's that are trendy at the moment, not sure what it is, it just does something for me

Personally it is difficult to say, i don't find seedy fashion particularly exciting, it just looks either awkward or un-natural, there isn't a specific form of clothing that does something for me...the person inside the clothing is important...wow i sound like a cliché

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:50 am

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
...the person inside the clothing is important...wow i sound like a cliché

I agree with sleep on this one. It's what's underneath the clothes that's important. (uh-oh that didn't sound right

)

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:58 am

Originally posted by Vicsun

I agree with sleep on this one. It's what's underneath the clothes that's important. (uh-oh that didn't sound right )

On the contrary, that sounds about right to me...

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:59 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
As for lawyers, I wouldn't say Astafas is totally asexual...

That felt very reassuring.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:08 am

Originally posted by Vicsun
I agree with sleep on this one. It's what's underneath the clothes that's important. (uh-oh that didn't sound right )

I agree with Ode, it sounds extremly right

posted by Astafas
That felt very reassuring.

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:12 am

Originally posted by C Elegans

I agree with Ode, it sounds extremly right

Thank you CE, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who's not a big fat hypocrite/liar honest enough to come out and say this.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:19 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Of course, I thought that was common knowledge.
It signifies an easy familiarity and comfort, or something...

Yes of course, but still - even if the man and woman are about the same size, or the woman is larger, very few women think it is sexy that the man walk around in her clothes, yet it signifies the same things as you say - familiarity, closeness, etc.

Sorry for all my spam in this thread. Back to topic:

Speedos. Many people hate it, I love it - on the right set off ass and thighs. It also looks very....inviting.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:31 am

Oh actually i have thought of one, hot pants, but it depends on whom and where, it has to be just right. What can i say, i am fussy

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:34 am

Originally posted by C Elegans

Yes of course, but still - even if the man and woman are about the same size, or the woman is larger, very few women think it is sexy that the man walk around in her clothes, yet it signifies the same things as you say - familiarity, closeness, etc.

Sorry for all my spam in this thread. Back to topic:

Speedos. Many people hate it, I love it - on the right set off ass and thighs. It also looks very....inviting.

Thank heavens Dottie's doing his best to abolish this unfair double standard, eh?

Speedos are very uncomfortable to wear, is the trouble.

Not clothing as such, but I've always thought bare feet look better on both sexes, and going shoeless is more comfortable to boot.

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 5:36 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Speedos are very uncomfortable to wear, is the trouble.

Stop bragging, Odie!

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Aug 02, 2002 5:44 am

Originally posted by Astafas

Stop bragging, Odie!

They were the only kind of swimming outfit allowed at my high school swimming contests.

Regrettably I'm don't have the sort of physique that looks good in a speedo...

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 7:02 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
my time *puts on Fable voice,

Hey, pretty decent.

But you need suck your gums, grab a cane, and throw fake false teeth at little children as they run by.

...there were different subgroups of synth people, one groups were called "raw synths", they liked Kraftwerk, DAF, Einsturze NB and such. They dressed in highly unusual, baggy clothes...

The US fashion (at least, in the areas I've seen) today is for totally formless baggy jeans and sweatshirts, even in very hot weather. Nevermind the weather; the fashion is ridiculous. IMO, there's nothing worse than somebody wearing jeans that look like a potato sack, with legs that trail three inches back beyond their feet.

I suppose my rejection is philosophical. I like people to take pleasure in their sexuality, and clothing is one way for them to do this. I don't mean in an uncomfortable fashion, but surely it's possible to wear a pair of snug jeans or pants, or a smart, elegant suit on less informal occasions...? It speaks of how you feel about yourself. Wheras all this off-the-rack, deliberately ill-fitting stuff says how you only want to be part of the masses.