Help with search engines needed!!!

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 4:52 am

I don't know whether this is the right forum to post this question, but here it comes:

I have builded a website and submitted it to various (many) search engines. No matter how small the engine is and how many search words type in the engine's searcher, I have NEVER founded myself on one of them (I always stop at number 600 or so).

I have added many meta-tags to the head of my homepage, but nothing works

Can anyone help me with this???

Thanks

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 4:56 am

Could i see these tags, i might be able to help, if you don't want them publically displayed you could PM them to me

We have had 1000's of hits on websites my company has produced, so i have some experience.

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 4:59 am

This is added in the HEAD part of the homepage:

<meta name="description" content="Fantasy, RPG, role-playing on computer, fantasy movies, books and stories are discussed here">

<meta name="keywords" content="fantasy, rpg, role, roleplaying, games, game, dnd, d&d, dungeons, dragons, vampire, white, wolf, werewolf, lotr, lord, of, the, rings, star, wars, morrowind, nwn, neverwinter, nights, computer, pen, and, paper, Never Winter Nights, NWN, Dungeons and Dragons, dnd, ADND, AD&D, 1E, 2E, 3E, dungeon, dragon, dungeon master, maps, radio, shoutcast, padnd, planetadnd, character sheets, netbooks, npc, races, fantasy, role playing, custom spells, downloads, kits, stories, magic, references, promotion, webmasters, dm, utilities, programs, Fantasy, fantasy author, books, magic, adventure, fiction, role playing game, D&D, dnd, dungeons and dragons, adventures, d20 system, 1st edition, 2e, 3e, 2nd edition, 3rd edition, warrior, magig user, cleric, ranger, paladin, druid, thief, assassin, monk, thac0, spells">

I have placed this right under TITLE

I appreciate your help...

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:08 am

They seem okay to me, you might wish to condense them down a little to be more specific to your area.

A few things you might want to know about search engines:

1) don't submit more often than 1 a month, they don't take kindly to it
2) it takes at least 6 weeks to be registered with a search engine, so there is no reason to over submit at any point.
3) be patient, it takes over a year to properly appear in such a high traffic area, games is one of the most highly worked on sections of the internet so it will take a long time

I will continue when i have more time.

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:16 am

Thanks for now.

But one more question:
I SHOULD be able to find my site in the engines right? Why is it then that I can't find it at the first 600?? It could be because I have subscribed only 4/5 wekks ago. Why does it take 6 weeks?

Ah well,as they say in Holland:
Patience is a beautiful thing (geduld is een schone zaak)

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:18 am

Since you know something about publishing websites, I have another question for you:

How can I get companies to advertise on my site? They ask me, or I ask them? Where can I find them? And stuff like that...

thanks again

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:22 am

Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
I SHOULD be able to find my site in the engines right? Why is it then that I can't find it at the first 600?? It could be because I have subscribed only 4/5 wekks ago. Why does it take 6 weeks?

Ah well,as they say in Holland:
Patience is a beautiful thing (geduld is een schone zaak)

Not for a while, you will probably be found miles down the list, it depends what you search for. It takes upwards of 6 weeks because they stifle the submissions so their databases don't become over crowded with new content. As i say you wont be found in the first 600 for a long time... it also depends greatly on the search engine as to how they deal with your submission...

Indeed it is

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:27 am

Originally posted by Rudar Dimble
How can I get companies to advertise on my site? They ask me, or I ask them? Where can I find them? And stuff like that...

Actually i don't know that much about that area, we never advertise on our sites (bar 2) so i am not involved in that area. You would have to create affiliate links i believe try contacting Bol.com or someone like that.

Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:56 am

Heh -I've never had problems with submitting to search engiens.

I've had sites submitted to Yahoo, Jubii (danish search) and vaiorus others - infact I have had more problems getting removed again

As for the ad. thingy - there are some banner services out there.
Don't know if the old one I used still exists, but it could be a start. (one was called LinkExchange IIRC - can't remember the other I used)

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 6:03 am

Originally posted by Xandax
Heh -I've never had problems with submitting to search engiens.

Was it a specialised field and how long ago was it?

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 11:05 am

What is your URL?

Is it a personal domain name you own or is it hosted by Yahoo or something?

Web crawlers have a a lot of web to crawl through!

Rudar Dimble · Post by **Rudar Dimble** » Tue Jul 16, 2002 12:31 pm

It is hosted by lycos (it is the site in my signature). I also use fantasyfans.tk , should I also submit that to the engines??