ethnic minorities

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:31 am

Originally posted by CM

err....should i be afraid?

Or Viv with copious amounts of hugs!

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:33 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
Precisely. Everybody is a minority somewhere, and not a minority somewhere else. I assumed that mr Waesel's question was referring to whether we are minorities where we actually live.

Brooklyn is actualy made up of the largest group of minorities in the world, there is every nation you could imagine...

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu May 16, 2002 7:33 am

Originally posted by Yshania

Or Viv with copious amounts of hugs!

If Ysh does carry out this horrible threat, allow me to selflessly volunteer myself as a human shield, @Fas.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:34 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper

If Ysh does carry out this horrible threat, allow me to selflessly volunteer myself as a human shield, @Fas.

In that case, Gruntboy with uncharacteristic amounts of hugs!

CM · Post by CM » Thu May 16, 2002 7:34 am

Now thats some scary ****, but she ain't around, so i am good.

Plus you know i have a point. With the likes of sleep and grunt, you think the brit SYM population is normal?

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu May 16, 2002 7:36 am

Originally posted by Yshania

In that case, Gruntboy with uncharacteristic amounts of hugs!

Looks like you're on your own for this one, @Fas.

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:36 am

Originally posted by CM
Now thats some scary ****, but she ain't around, so i am good.

Plus you know i have a point. With the likes of sleep and grunt, you think the brit SYM population is normal?

LOL!

Did I ever say it was? Besides there are 5000 other members to swing the balance

CM · Post by CM » Thu May 16, 2002 7:42 am

Ode you just don't get it.
Vivs hugs for me.
If you are a shield well grunt hugs you then.
Understand?

Those 5000 Ysh are not brits of SYM. The SYM brit population is one scary piece of work. With the darkflame members being right on top!

What no bar in here yet? Beldin is getting slow!

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu May 16, 2002 7:47 am

As long as I get a *hug* from Viv and not from Grunty I'm fine.

Although a *hug* from Ysh wouldn't go astray either...

We're still parked outside theRolling Thunder's very own.. Feel free to come back any time, the bunnies are waiting.

My prediction of you only lasting two more days was off for a number of reasons, and we've decided to stop spiking your tea with shine. Did you know we have black beer now?

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Thu May 16, 2002 7:57 am

Originally posted by C Elegans
Both I and High Lord Dave were adopted, HLD might view himself as Asian-American (I'm not sure)

I am flattered that you remembered this, C Elegans, and I do not consider myself to be Asian-American as the only thing Asian about me is my parentage. My parents are both white, middle-class, protestants and I share their language, culture, prejudices, ambitions and everything else. I think like a white American and I act like a white American because that was my upbringing.

Many times, especially with people I don't know, I find myself treated in a way which is related to my race. For instance, some people think that I am a kung fu master (it's genetic, you know), others think that I am a bad driver (which I'm not, by the way; I just like to drive faster than most people) or that I know how the slip of paper gets in the fortune cookie (that's in the Handbook for People Who Look Chinese). I have been mistaken for long-lost college friends, cardiothorasic surgeons and once convinced some strangers that I was Jonathan Ke Quan from The Goonies (you all look the same to us, too).

People tend to congregate together in enclaves of familiar types, along the lines of race, ethnicity, religion and sexual orientation. While they may be minorities in their larger society, people like to stick together, drawing strength and support from numbers. In cases like mine, the commonalities are not so much related to skin colour as they are to cultural heritage.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu May 16, 2002 8:16 am

Originally posted by HighLordDave
People tend to congregate together in enclaves of familiar types, along the lines of race, ethnicity, religion and sexual orientation. While they may be minorities in their larger society, people like to stick together, drawing strength and support from numbers. In cases like mine, the commonalities are not so much related to skin colour as they are to cultural heritage.

This is actually one of my problems with immigration, i have no problem with countries accepting foreign people into the relevant areas, my problem is when these immigrants do not ingratiate themselves into society and instead form a splinter group wihtin the community made up of the same ethnic ties as themselves.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu May 16, 2002 8:48 am

(minorities) Would you believe Weasel is one?

American Indian (Seminole/Poarch Band of Creek Indians). Though through marriage you cannot tell nowadays.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu May 16, 2002 8:55 am

Oh, coitainly.

Slavic (Ukrainian grandparents), pagan, and handicapped. The last two, and especially the last one, is absolutely non-denominational, and open to anybody.

I look very Slavic, too. When my wife and I went to Little Odessa (that's the nickname for a several-hundred-thousand-strong community in NYC) to shop last year, they addressed her in English, and me in Russian.

Too bad my Russian is limited to about 100 words...and I've forgotten most of 'em over the years. I decided to learn Russian as a hobby one late one summer, and had to give it up when I went back to university. Just shows you how Education gets in the way of education.

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:06 am

Originally posted by CM
Ode you just don't get it.
Vivs hugs for me.
If you are a shield well grunt hugs you then.
Understand?

Those 5000 Ysh are not brits of SYM. The SYM brit population is one scary piece of work. With the darkflame members being right on top!

What no bar in here yet? Beldin is getting slow!

Watch it you! I'll kick your head in! I won't bother with hugs...

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:08 am

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
This is actually one of my problems with immigration, i have no problem with countries accepting foreign people into the relevant areas, my problem is when these immigrants do not ingratiate themselves into society and instead form a splinter group wihtin the community made up of the same ethnic ties as themselves.

Sometimes I wonder if it is the society which refuses to accept new immigrants and cultures or if it is people walling themselves off from their new homeland. I think it goes a little bit each way. There is a perception among "natives" that immigrants steal jobs, increase crime and have all sorts of other characteristics which make them undesirable neighbours. At the same time, many ethnic groups want to preserve their original culture, or because of the language barrier, end up retreating into an enclave of their "own" kind.

It is often only in the second and third generation, who are native speakers and take personal ownership in the "new" country that the isolation, both self-imposed and societal, is reduced.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:09 am

I am of Italian descent actually, plus a bit of Spain and all manner of other countries, it is quite interesting to track these things

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:15 am

Originally posted by HighLordDave
Sometimes I wonder if it is the society which refuses to accept new immigrants and cultures or if it is people walling themselves off from their new homeland. I think it goes a little bit each way.

I am in agreement, it does go both ways, unfortunately not everyone is accepting and allows immigrants to ingratiate themselves. Most ethnic groups have been proved to look after the area better than the original occupiers, i will try to find some info on this tonight if i am around

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:23 am

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
I am of Italian descent actually, plus a bit of Spain and all manner of other countries, it is quite interesting to track these things

I have to agree. Right now I can track back to my (Mothers side) Great, great, grand father..Andrew Jackson Knowles.

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:26 am

Originally posted by HighLordDave
It is often only in the second and third generation, who are native speakers and take personal ownership in the "new" country that the isolation, both self-imposed and societal, is reduced.

And then, usually, they become part of the national body that rejects newer groups of immigrants.

frogus · Post by **frogus** » Thu May 16, 2002 9:36 am

I am not a minority AFAIK (well I'm sure I could dig up something minor about me...sorry, re-phrase. I'm sure I could find some way in which I am a minority if you wanted...). Anyway, I'm not a very minor minority...

some people think that I am a kung fu master (it's genetic, you know)

LMAO! Yeah, I love that one. I like the way everyone in China can do kung fu, and everyone in Japan can not only do kung fu, but carries samurai swords at all times as well

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Fas and Morlock are both Muslims.

Since when has Islam been a minority?