Make Trek, Not War!

KidD01 · Post by **KidD01** » Tue May 14, 2002 12:20 pm

Originally posted by HighLordDave
Seven owes her appeal to spandex.

I dunno but she sure looks good without the spandex anyway *drool*

Originally posted by HighLordDave
Perhaps because of the success of the X-Wing/TIE Fighter series, Star Wars games do not need any such qualification.

Lucas Arts is loosing touch on making good games IMO.

Originally posted by HighLordDave
"This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Wesley Crusher and will soon see the end of Q, the Borg and everyone else who has ever bugged me."

LOL Q is one funny yet annoying factor in ST universe. I remember the ST : DS9 episode where ben Sisqo hits Q. Q said, "You punched me ! Picard never punched me !"

Originally posted by HighLordDave
If you want true insight into Picard's leadership, look at what happened when he left Riker in command: Will crashed it into a planet. Han Solo let Lando drive the Millenium Falcon, and Lando just knocked the deflector dish off and chipped some paint.

Lando was the owner of The Falcon before he loose it to Han on a bet. And Will Riker...........what can I say ? He's not my favorite char on ST : TNG

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Tue May 14, 2002 2:38 pm

Well, both sides have some very good arguments going on, but ST still has a massive head up on SW, and that would be the lack of Gungans!

KidD01 · Post by **KidD01** » Tue May 14, 2002 2:40 pm

@Aegis : Don't forget ST is Jar Jar free

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Tue May 14, 2002 2:48 pm

by kidD
@Aegis : Don't forget ST is Jar Jar free

and ST got wesley crusher, and little klingon alexander

EMINEM · Post by **EMINEM** » Tue May 14, 2002 2:52 pm

Originally posted by HighLordDave

It's all good . . . I live in West Virginia where we're all one big, happy family . . . really!

More reasons why Star Wars is better than Star Trek:

My Star Destroyer can kick your Galaxy-class cruiser's ass.

Force lightning.

No Wesley Crusher.

Troi had a mini-skirt and big stripper hair. Leia had the metal slave girl bikini.

The Jedi Mind Trick.

Have you played any of the Star Trek PC games?

At conventions, Trekkies put on spandex. Star Wars fans wear of the armour of Mandalorian Supercommandos.

When Picard disciplines an officer, he only dresses them down in private. Vader crushes their throat on the bridge for all to see.

LOL! Great list, HLD.

More reasons why Star Trek is better than Star Wars:

The Prime Directive safeguards against pervy Ewok fancying.

Star Wars has Jedis with mind tricking powers (requires rigorous discipline, years of training etc), while Star Trek has an entire species (Betazoids) who can do the same thing from the time they're born

Lt. Data can wipe the floor with Vader. What good is the Force choke against an android?

Enterprise - Warp 9.5. Mellennium Falcon: horse and buggy lightspeed.

Leia's metal bikini... 'can't argue with this one. Do you remember her strangling Jabba with the chain? The expression on her face, her grimacing, grunting and groaning, her forward and backward motion, her throwing her head back and crying out loud in ecstasy, her look of exhaustion and bliss after having finished the job... Lucas was certainly no dummy.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Tue May 14, 2002 2:56 pm

by EMINEM
Leia's metal bikini... 'can't argue with this one. Do you remember her strangling Jabba with the chain? The expression on her face, her grimacing, grunting and groaning, her forward and backward motion, her throwing her head back and crying out loud in ecstasy... Lucas was certainly no dummy.

I don't know if this is where he was headed but if it works for you.....

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Tue May 14, 2002 2:56 pm

Originally posted by EMINEM
Leia's metal bikini... 'can't argue with this one. Do you remember her strangling Jabba with the chain? The expression on her face, her grimacing, grunting and groaning, her forward and backward motion, her throwing her head back and crying out loud in ecstasy... Lucas was certainly no dummy.

Wow... subtle...

Nightmare · Post by **Nightmare** » Tue May 14, 2002 3:45 pm

@HLD, damn straight about everything you said.

@Eminem, Data vs. Vader? What are lightsabers for?

Although I do agree about Jar Jar and the Gungans.

Oh, and Jedi Knight 2 is wicked. *drools* The good SW games coming out these days are being made by different companies, only being published by LucasArts (SW Galaxies, Jedi Knight 2, Knight of the Old Republic...). However, TIE Fighter remains one of my favourite games of all time. Btw, has anyone played SW Rebellion?

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue May 14, 2002 5:18 pm

@All:
Lol this is a great thread!!!!
I'm a fan of both,
but my startrek rating has gone down a little since i know that wesley is named after:
Eugene Wesley Roddenberry

I cried for days when I heared that my idol gave his name to that little creature (i just know he is an allian or a failed genitic experiment)

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » Tue May 14, 2002 5:45 pm

Originally posted by Gaxx_Firkraag
@HLD, damn straight about everything you said.

Data vs. Vader? What are lightsabers for?

Same thing a hand-phasor set on 'Kill, Stuff and Mount' mode is for.

ST plus: Transporters. Much better than having to lift your starfighter out of a swamp with your mind.

EMINEM · Post by **EMINEM** » Tue May 14, 2002 9:32 pm

More reasons why Star Trek owns Star Wars:

The Federation has universal translators; no scratching our heads over what the heck Chewbacca is moaning and groaning about (and how the humans could possibly understand him!).

Not every frickin Star Trek episode has a mysterious tentacled creature that tries to drag somebody into its belly (in IV it was Luke, in V it was R2, and in VI it was Lando!).

No silly "all-binding force that surrounds, penetrates, and binds the universe together," unless you wanna refer to it as "Political Correctness."

HighLordDave · Post by **HighLordDave** » Wed May 15, 2002 7:15 am

All right, folks. I've decided to settle this debate once and for all with the Tale of the Tape:

Cool Signature Move:
Star Trek: Vulcan Nerve Pinch
Star Wars: Force Choke
Advantage: Star Wars, I find Trekkies's lack of faith disturbing.

Mr. Fix-It:
Star Trek: Scotty
Star Wars: Chewbacca
Advantage: Star Wars. Hey, I don't want my arms ripped out of their sockets.

Babe Factor:
Star Trek: Uhura in a miniskirt, Seven in the spandex, T'Pol in Maxim
Star Wars: Leia with no bra, Leia in the slave girl bikini, Padme in a haltertop with a gun
Advantage: Star Trek, although the metal slave girl bikini almost makes it even.

Guest Appearances:
Star Trek: Joan Collins in "The City of the Edge of Forever" plus just about every actor on the planet in the years since
Star Wars: Bea Arthur and Harvey Korman in The Star Wars Holiday Special
Advantage: Star Trek. No true Star Wars fan will ever admit the Holiday Special ever existed (Wookie porn!!! Nooooooo!!!!!).

Characters You Wish Would Be Flushed Out an Airlock:
Star Trek: Wesley Crusher, Troi, Neelix, Rom, Sato
Star Wars: Jar Jar Binks, ewoks
Advantage: Push; there are no winners here.

Enigmatic Character Fans Inexplicably Like:
Star Trek: Morn
Star Wars: Boba Fett
Advantage: Star Wars; that Mandalorian armour is a babe magnet.

Peripheral Character's Dying Line:
Star Trek: "Look, Captain! It's a--aaaagggghhhhhh!"
Star Wars: "She's gonna blow!"
Advantage: Star Wars, as if you had to ask.

Character Who Deserves a Better Story Arc and More Lines:
Star Trek: Dr. Phlox
Star Wars: Wedge Antilles
Advantage: Star Trek. Sure, Wedge helped blow up two Death Stars, but Phlox is phunnier.

Name-level Actor Brought Onboard for Movie Only to Be Killed:
Star Trek: Ricardo Montalban
Star Wars: Alec Guinness
Advantage: Star Wars. ¿Quien es más macho?

Fan Base:
Star Trek: Trekkies
Star Wars: No group name
Advantage: Push. Both are equally fanatical, but while Star Wars geeks don't have an "official" nickname, they haven't been mocked on Saturday Night Live, either.

Robotic Sidekick:
Star Trek: Data
Star Wars: R2-D2
Advantage: Star Trek. Spiner is a much better actor, plus he never had R2's personal problems.

Signature Weapon:
Star Trek: Phaser
Star Wars: Lightsaber
Advantage: Star Wars, especially with my man, Jedi Master Shaft, opening up a can of Force whoopass on the bad guys.

What They Did Afterwards:
Star Trek: Kirk became T.J. Hooker, Spock failed at being a "singer" and McCoy went to conventions
Star Wars: Han became Indiana Jones, Luke failed at "acting" and Leia went to rehab
Advantage: Star Wars. Han's carrying the show, but why don't we forget about Random Hearts?

So there you have it, folks. All of the reasons why Star Wars is better than Star Trek, and it was all too easy. I'm HighLordDave reminding you that the numbers never lie.

May the Force be with you.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed May 15, 2002 7:47 am

What about villians, alien races, and galatic dog fights?

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Wed May 15, 2002 6:59 pm

Originally posted by HighLordDave
8) After resisting the Imperial torture droid and Darth Vader, Princess Leia still looked fresh and desirable--after pithy Cardassian starvation torture, Picard looked like hell.

But then Picard was hardly fresh and desirable before pithy Cardassian starvation torture...

@Aegis No villain could possibly be better than Vader.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Wed May 15, 2002 7:04 pm

I dunno. I think the Borg are an awesome set of villian(s?)

Nippy · Post by **Nippy** » Thu May 16, 2002 12:14 am

Originally posted by Aegis
I dunno. I think the Borg are an awesome set of villian(s?)

Pfff! They suck compared to the big V. They were just an overpowered villain that would run around shouting about how poweful they were, only Vader DID run around showing his power...

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Thu May 16, 2002 3:17 am

That's true, Darth Vader is the best villain.
Did you know Vader means Father in dutch?
Makes you think if this was chosen this way...........

Ode to a Grasshopper · Thu May 16, 2002 3:22 am

It was. Darth Vader is meant to mean "Dark Father", IIRC. I saw a documentary during the period of Star Wars mania shortly before TPM came out.

KidD01 · Post by **KidD01** » Thu May 16, 2002 1:50 pm

The most influential punch line is from Star Wars not Star trek...............it's I am your father !

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Thu May 16, 2002 2:00 pm

Originally posted by KidD01
The most influential punch line is from Star Wars not Star trek...............it's I am your father !

I'm still waiting untill Picard sais this to Wesley!!!!