The ultimate fighter high level ability!!!! OMG!!! They die like roaches!!!

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sat Apr 13, 2002 11:46 pm

see the previous posts on this evil new cheese!!!!

http://gamebanshee.com/forums/showthrea ... post226193

so I gave mazzie alone g deathblow, right, since i figure only she is super archer, except minsc, and I wanted to take advantage of her killer archer skills to deliever g deathblow which kills anything at level 12 and below, which includes MOST MIND F;AYERS, DEMONS AND BEHOLDERS!!!

if you look at sk, via creature viewer, you will see while sendai and other s are at ridiculously high level, mind flayers, almost as annoying, are level 8. so i figure, cool, this is good, exploit guard button to mow them down like flies..hee hee...

little did I know how evil this was getting......

boy, was i impressed when I started to get one shot one kills with her, imp haste, via gloves of blinding strike, then use her haste innate ability, for more rounds, (tires her out, poor thing, and after all day sparring wit with korgan, who has a major thing for her in watchers keep,)

so as long as her weapon hits, it kills the buggers, I was very impressed. i recommneded in the above thread to give her gesen or tansheron bow to make sure it hits, since vampires require +2 or better, i think....

then had revelation in watchers keep...the ability is attack and hit, kills, so I tried ARROWS OF DETONATION!!!!!

OMG!!!!!

I was in level 4, the mind flayer camp, and I sent her in with 3 arroows, and chaotic commands, and activated g deathblow, and sent an arrow in. 4 umber hulks, and 2 flayers, caught in the blast radius, died instantly!!!

and I evn got messages, about the flayer s being immune to damage!!!!

so kiddies, did you save up all your oil of burning, and did you get the wonderful necklace of missiles in trademeet and recharge it???

I DID!!!

this should work with arrows, necklace and oils of burning...

my god, the cheese!!!!

due to flaws in implementation of the game engine, you can make a blast radius attack and it counts as deathblow...

mazzie is now the ultimate mind flayer killer, give her many g deathblows, and necklace of missiles, and recharge it often. havent tried with necklace yet, but should work. for sure arrows of detonation does work.

stomp on them like roaches!!!!

hmmmm...next implementation of bun bun, the kensai sorc, could add deathblows...nahhhh....already too powerful, mazzie is getting some major complimnets tonite, while the party does the nightly weenie roast...

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sat Apr 13, 2002 11:56 pm

Awaiting your test results.

One request:

Zip!

Don't leave home without it

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:05 am

This I just have to try! Awesome find!

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:36 am

ROFLMAO!

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 1:07 am

hmmm.....fan, if i decide to implement a bun bun with greater death blow, i probably wont do it, since my pc goes around nakked, without ai script chosen, so ideally keep this in mazzie only since she has far greater bowyer skills than bun bun, also she is pure warrior, not sorc, thus has "guard" button, for even more fun, firing thru walls exploit. party has to earn keep, wot???

anyway, necklace of missiles does not work, suspect oil of burning either, as the game engine sees both as spell, rather than attack, thus unlikely to death blow them.

but arrows of detonation really, really rock!!!!

fire seeds work ok, but blast radius is smaller, so not nearly as fun(funny)

Do you know the clua console command to make arrows of detonation? i do!!!

CLUAConsole:CreateItem("arow06",40)

this creates 40 of them, but dont go overboard, you only need a few dozen for entier game!!!

enjoy, and get htose filty stinking mind flayers!!! squish them like bugs!!!! they just curl up and die, dont even need imp haste for her, just have her walk up, slowly, to torture them, they think a single halfling

happy meal

is coming for them to nosh on before sucking on main course, sorc kensai, with int of 19, yummy!!

and out she pulls this pitiful little bow, and she shoots one stinking arrow, and they all fall down!!!

funniest thing about the monster type we all fear and loath, even worse than dragons. they just die like fumigated roaches!!!

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 1:16 am

This is a wonderful discovery User!

Have never used detonation arrows before, today is a new day!

I don't know about the firing thru walls exploit though, will go thru again tonight in the mind flayers' lair.

Thanks bud.

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 1:19 am

I'm going to try this tatic in the Beholder dungeon in the Underdark, once I get another game that far and after I finish testing a script for the Firkraag dungeon.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 1:44 am

fan, buddy, get ready. someone discovered something strange about the guard button, and i have refined tech. a warrior, true type, not multi like jahiera, has a button called the guard button on their panel. if you click on it, and click on a creature or npc capable of attacking, like summons or pc, the warrior will move up to guard it, and will fire ranged weapons on any creatuer it sees. someone discoverd the implementation is bad, so if you guard a sword, for example, and send it into room, and close the door, so the fighter cannot move up to it to guard it, use farsight or wiz eye to see, thenn mazzy or minsc will fire thru walls to support the summons or npc!!! amazing stuff, just shut door so they cannot move near the guarded creatuer. now think about this, summon sword, send into room, close door, use farsight, and have mazzy guard. add arrows of detonation, hit g deathblow, room

go boom!!!

oh yeah....

BIG METAL UNIT FRAG GRENADES!!!!

Unlimited ammo, great thaco, and boy, does it rock....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

User has lost it, user has lost it.....

bun bun!!! is no longer the baddest bunny in town!!!

one thing to remember, is you should look in creature viewer in sk for level info. turns out the demon posse in hell are all level 8 or so demons!!!

one arrow, or frag grenade, and they all fall down!!!

this is now th LONDON BRIDGE tactic of DOOOM!!!!!!

london bridge is falling down, falling down...

or just the poisoned roach look...

Littiz · Post by **Littiz** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:06 am

Arrows of Mass Area Death....
Oil of Mass Slaying...

Wow, that's CHEESE, User!!!

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:06 am

omg!!!

critical strike, smite and power attack, should work the same way. who needs poison????!!!!

critical strike and area effect weapon, like bmu frag grenades, and det arrows, should with critiical strike have many , many hit multipliers. good for bunch of tougher enemies resistant to deathblow. and the really sucky ability power attack???

got better penalty to save than p word stun, -4 or so, so think 30' area pword stun!!!with finger of death penalty tosave!!!

I am evil!!! I am bun bun!!!

Littiz · Post by **Littiz** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:20 am

For the guard button trick, I think you don't need a straight fighter.
IIRC, if you select the entire party, you get the button just the same.
Give the order to all of them...
Am I wrong?

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:53 am

User get lvl X assassin/Fighter 20+ and a druid over lvl 14(when ever you get POISON IMMUNITY!!)Whirl wind, death blow, poison weapon and Critical strike(KI??).The druid cast Aura of holy flame, summon Greater fire elemetal.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:18 am

?????????????

I've already posted on area effect poison weapon, you throw fire seeds or use bmu frag grenade, poison weapon, and you can poison a room full of trolls at one go. but you want either the ring of gaxx, for poison immunity or amulet of poison immunity to escape effects...

these techs will be nasty, cause the death blow will not effect YOU once over level 12, and the power attack area effect will be fine if you have ring of free action. you cannot save against te criitical attack, you will take the damage multiplier, (stoneskin) or the smite, you will be blown away, but seriously, the smite and crit is best used with single projectiles, for mazzie with imp haste on,so she can winnow them down.

best of all, better than the symbol stun, or using a abu dahzim to kill a bunch of flayers, with bmu frag grenade you get 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

attacks per round. can anyone say, greater acuity!!!!

mazzie can do 10 attacks per round with imp haste and tulgan bow...can you say, eat crap and die???

sorta like a area effect quivering palm, but with better effects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:45 pm

<--- Still in shock at the implications of these new tricks.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 1:11 pm

does anyone know the blast radius of the frag skull????

oh yeah, you know the first challenge room of lv 5 watchers keep? where they spawn a whole buncha crap wesels at you?

well, I tested out critical strike active with area effect, got mundo damage multipliers...not as fun as a inc cloud cast into fog of war, but frag skulls and g death blow seriously rock. plan to test power attack next chnace i get....kinda thinking about re making bun bun, sorc kensai hive mother beholder deathbringer deathblow power attack smite critical stike anyone???

seriouly, bun bun should have this ability, and should be limited to pc, since only pc has ring of free action, and its embarressing for mazzie, to go foward, cast power attack, stun a whole room full of monsters, and be stunned herself. wait, give mazzie ring, of free action, and take and wear ring of protection +3!!! should make every save in the book, with magic resist and ALL my saves in the low neg, and have aerie with free action spell ready...

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

looking foward to testing out the power attack with frag skull, this could be seriouly eveil. sure, my sorc has symbol stun, for use with ring of free action, but think this way,

frag skull sets number of atacks to 5 per round, and is infinite ammo, so a sorc with free action spell, has to use 4 spells to get 3 symbol stuns into a group of enemies, in one round, whereas mazzie can pump in 5!!! and I am not sure imp haste will work, but 10 symbol stuns into a group????!!!!!!

no one can make that many saves, only immmune to stun can hope to survive....

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:59 pm

used impr haste after equipping bmu frag grenade, and it sets attacks to 10!!! with powre attack, you get 2 rounds, that 20 symbol stuns in two vicious roounds, completely blasting thru any and all saves those weenies can raise.

noticed soemthing with critical strike, you cast 1 or two grenades, and each critical stike damage multiplier acts like a seperate attack!!!!!!

so my sorc, who has 20 stoneskins just raised up, found I had lost all my skins!!!!

each skin will stop a singel attack, so each blast multiplied by 5 or so is the critical attack multiplier, and all my skins were gone!!! this may be the ultimate in mage protections disruption spell, for even more fun, I could poison it...i supect, and this is by far the worst effect I can image, each critical stike attack, area effect, if it counts just like the backstab multiplier, will be area effect, each enemy or friend in blast radius will take 5 or 4 times damage, skull damage multiplied by criical hit, with poison each victim will take 4 or 5 INJECTIONS Of poison, so instead of coping with say 2-4 pts damge of poison per round, you get 2-4 points of poison damage multiplied by the critical strike modifier, so you so around10-20 poison damage, and each poison hit will be cumulative spell failure!!!

add the fire damage multiplier if shot by fire tooth, around 20 or so with crit strike modifier...and you have got instant death...almost as dangerous to fighter as to enemy, tho...

hmmm...

greater acuity, poison, crit strike power attack, and kai should provide me with one round of total annihilation area effect nastyness....

this really needs a special bun bun build, for the ultimate in pure evil....

maybe use special

"mecha easter bunny" portrait? from sluggy freelance...

I am so bad....

most situations, use g deathblow to blast awy at everyone, and see if they all fall down. if not, switch to holy avenger and start whacking. but for those special situations, greater acuity, deathblow, poison, power attack, critical strike from firetooth, and seriosuly evil...you cna then walk away, knowing that the posioned, stunned half dead, and all low level creature allys dead group will stand around, and let the assassin poison do its dirty, dirty work...

they dont turn green at the motuh and die foaming, but really, they turn yellow as the stun effect hits them.

think I'll test power attack soon, stay tuned.

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 10:48 pm

well, you all knew it would happen, just blew away saves, created kensai sorc with power attacks, g deathblow and critical strike. power attacks work as a area effect stun, same as symbol stun, but with 5 attacks per and infinte ammo, you can really stun a bunch of monsters with one shot. doesnt latst long, just long enough to toss in inc cloud and close door...

in irenicus dungeon 1, you know those two lesser clay golems? one skull with death blow killed them both, while blue circle. have to be very care ful when playing this char, as rest of party is below level 12....heck, you cant even use this char until you get to lv 12 or higher, since you can commit suicide or kill immie...wonder if its a slay or insta kill effect...time to torture sweet immie...

cant wait to get ring of free action and boots of speed, thus zoom in, toss skull, and zoom out....

i know, i know fan, you want me to post it....

shall i include in save the revised bg2 party? jahira as shapeshifter druid fighter, and minsc as archer?? immie is very hard to change...

liking this party much better...poor, sweet dorling aerie gets to be cleric of lathander /mage, or conjuror cleric, mazzie, may make her berserker...giggle... or keep her as is...

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:19 pm

in irenicus dungeon 1, you know those two lesser clay golems? one skull with death blow killed them both, while blue circle. have to be very care ful when playing this char, as rest of party is below level 12....heck, you cant even use this char until you get to lv 12 or higher, since you can commit suicide or kill immie...wonder if its a slay or insta kill effect...time to torture sweet immie...

kill Immie, that's a recurring theme. LOL

i know, i know fan, you want me to post it....

Pray, please do.

shall i include in save the revised bg2 party? jahira as shapeshifter druid fighter, and minsc as archer?? immie is very hard to change...

liking this party much better...poor, sweet dorling aerie gets to be cleric of lathander /mage, or conjuror cleric, mazzie, may make her berserker...giggle... or keep her as is...

Minsc will have critical strike when he levels up eventually, and Immie will be temporarily unavailable. Jaheira and Mazzy with power attacks, crit strikes and deathblows, that will be a first. Thing is, what will korgy say?

UserUnfriendly · Post by **UserUnfriendly** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:50 am

korgy, if you sk him to lawful good, will start to hit on mazzy. funny as helll...

especially his remarks about her in doe skin, or the time he tried to get her to give him massage...will post tomorrow, as my play build is pretty big, and you can easily change rest of party to whatever you like.

i like jahira as shapeshifter druid!!! no armor, but I think white dragonscale and red dragon is ok for her..this party is seriouly more interesting, and the disadvatages, like jahirea can wear no armor, and minsc is restricted to leather only, mkes this a very interesting and fun party. oops, forgot to set difficulty to insane, as thats mandatory anytime youre playing bun bun.

warning, do not sk jahirea to good!!!

she has to be neitral to use harper pin, and if youre in romance with her, or used the termiselappear clua console commnad to force him, if you dont romance her, this timer stays frozen so he never appears. but the pin requires neutral druids only...

oh man, the extra warrior abilities rock so very hard!!!

only a few weeks ago I noted just how sucky they were....was I ever wrong...only thought crit strike was ok for mazzie and minsc...

hmmm....minsc is sucha good archer, maybe get wittle jan for minsc and jan funnys...turnip jokes are not too bad, not nearly as annoying as nalias quips...

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:40 am

especially his remarks about her in doe skin, or the time he tried to get her to give him massage...will post tomorrow, as my play build is pretty big, and you can easily change rest of party to whatever you like.

Can barely wait

I have completed the BUN BUN run thru and it was quick, even on Insane. The Sola NPC quests were good to say the least. Old Jonny boy didn't have a chance in hell (pun intended).

Old wine in new bottles tastes good

Just a suggestion about romancing Jaheira, I think you need the patch to it otherwise the romance won't work. I remember Manveru did a good job on fixing the bugs.

Look forward to hearing from you User.

Cheers.