Prince Phillip vs George Bush Jnr

Fezek · Post by **Fezek** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:10 am

This seems like an appropriate topic for "discussion". Which one is the bigger "gaffer"? Who strides forward into dogshyte with more vim and zeal? Who after losing first on the weakest link would stride off stage the more valiant? Who is the likelier to partner Jim Carey in his new movie" Whoops, I've farted!"?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:19 am

LMAO

I think Phillip wins hands down. Who can top the "Don't stay here to long, it will turn you slitty eyed" line?

He has always been a joke, no one can match him for his slip ups.

Although Phillip has never had control of nukes

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:51 am

I agree with Sleepy, but two guys are so different. After all, Prince Philip doesn't have political power. Even though he has offended more than a half of the world so far, it is just gaffs, while Mr Dubya Bush can act upon his gaffs.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:57 am

Originally posted by Minerva
I agree with Sleepy, but two guys are so different. After all, Prince Philip doesn't have political power. Even though he has offended more than a half of the world so far, it is just gaffs, while Mr Dubya Bush can act upon his gaffs.

I like the so far

, i wonder if his epitath will also be an insult to somone

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:59 am

Just curious...

Originally posted by Minerva
I agree with Sleepy, but two guys are so different. After all, Prince Philip doesn't have political power. Even though he has offended more than a half of the world so far, it is just gaffs, while Mr Dubya Bush can act upon his gaffs.

...better Dubya than Quayle ?

Then again, it's between PP and GW. Sorry about that Fezek, itchy keyboard fingers here...

Fezek · Post by **Fezek** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:02 am

Re: Just curious...

Originally posted by Maharlika
...better Dubya than Quayle ?
Then again, it's between PP and GW. Sorry about that Fezek, itchy keyboard fingers here...

I wonder if Qualye helped Dubya in his speech-making classes?

Ode to a Grasshopper · Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:06 am

No way, everyone knows John Wayne writes Dubya's speeches.

Minerva · Post by **Minerva** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:06 am

Re: Just curious...

Originally posted by Maharlika
...better Dubya than Quayle ?

Ah, I didn't hear about Dan Quayle's gaffs as much as Bush Jr.'s, because I was in Japan with much less English ability when he was the Vice President. Japanese press doesn't report much about gaffs, unless a) Japan or Asian countries (especially China and Korea) are offended, or b) the gaff is too bad to ignore.

Maharlika · Post by **Maharlika** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:15 am

For one thing I *think* I do know though...

...these gaffers have what you call the Foot-in-Mouth disease!

With due respect to Fezek's thread, how do you define the "bigger gaffer"?

Judging Sleepy and Minerva's comments on his previous gaffs, DW seems to be the more dangerous one.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:37 am

Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
No way, everyone knows John Wayne writes Dubya's speeches.

John Wayne, despite being one of the world's most overrated thirdrate actors, had brains enough at least to write something considerably better than Dubyah's attempts at improvizing:

""This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."

"The senator has got to understand if he's going to have-he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road."

"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."

But some people are just incapable of public speaking, no matter how bright they are in private--Eisenhower, an extremely savvy and philosophical man, was like that. The problem for me is that Dubyah has no concept of the US being part of a greater world. He only sees 1) his agenda, and 2) the need to get elected. He is incapable of seeing that shortterm satisfaction provided to one of his constituencies may end up hurting the world (and not coincidentally, the US) a lot in the long run. Most particularly, his financial policies and abrogation of a series of global agreements are going to hurt, and hurt bad.

Fezek · Post by **Fezek** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:59 am

Originally posted by fable

John Wayne, despite being one of the world's most overrated thirdrate actors, had brains enough at least to write something considerably better than Dubyah's attempts at improvizing:

""This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."

"The senator has got to understand if he's going to have-he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road."

"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."

But some people are just incapable of public speaking, no matter how bright they are in private--Eisenhower, an extremely savvy and philosophical man, was like that. The problem for me is that Dubyah has no concept of the US being part of a greater world. He only sees 1) his agenda, and 2) the need to get elected. He is incapable of seeing that shortterm satisfaction provided to one of his constituencies may end up hurting the world (and not coincidentally, the US) a lot in the long run. Most particularly, his financial policies and abrogation of a series of global agreements are going to hurt, and hurt bad.

Is that a vote for GWB jnr then?

Vicsun · Post by **Vicsun** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 1:06 pm

I'm sorry for my ignorance, but who is Prince Philip? I've never heard of him.

Robnark · Post by **Robnark** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 1:11 pm

wrinkly old xenophobe, married to the (british) queen

Yshania · Post by **Yshania** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 1:26 pm

Originally posted by Robnark

wrinkly old xenophobe, married to the (british) queen

ROFLMAO!

Queenie was once noted as saying:

"Like all the best families, we have our share of eccentricities, of impetuous and wayward youngsters and of family disagreements"

She must have been staring at Charlie intently as she said that!

Robnark · Post by **Robnark** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:33 pm

the fact that phil has no political or military power whatsoever is the most conclusive proof of god's existence that i know of.

maybe if we ignore them for long enough they'll go away?

frogus · Post by **frogus** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:45 pm

ahh...Phillips got it, no contest...did you here the one from when he met with some aborigines in the outback?

They were performing somekind of a ritual wlcoming spear-dance for him: 'still use those things to kill each other do you?' he says.

the man's a genius. I have a theory that he's actually just taking the piss out of the entire world..he's been brooding, bitter and twisted...'so, they think I'm not important do they...he he?! they think what I say doesn't matter?..giggle...I'll show 'em...he he??!!...'

never have I admired someone so much before for their extreme and venomous racial prejudice.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Mar 15, 2002 2:55 pm

Phil's an old Goon Show fan, so I wouldn't be surprised if that spear quote (assuming it's accurate) was meant to break down the reserve of hosts used to carefully treading white Westerners showing up on "goodwill tours." He's made his share of shrewd observations over the year--and I kinda like his scowling attitude adapted to the minions of Margaret Thatcher during her Glory Days.

The difference between the British and us are that the British give their court jesters visibility, whereas we kick power into the deal.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sat Mar 16, 2002 8:31 pm

I just heard Robert Greene's weekly commentary on Radio Nederlands. (Greene's the General Director of External Services.) As usual, it was outrageous and dry, while being delivered in a straightforward style. He began by noting the remarkable spectacle of Bush severely criticizing the conduct of the presidential election in Zimbabwe which, as Greene pointed out, is something that probably should have been done instead by Al Gore. He suggested that if Bush doesn't rise in the morning, look at himself in the mirror and jump with delight screaming, "I'm still getting away with it!" he isn't really human.