Oscar Nominations

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Sat Mar 09, 2002 7:39 pm

Originally posted by Georgi
Like I said, haven't seen Strictly Ballroom (though trying to borrow the video from a friend ), so I'd have to wait till I've seen that... He certainly has a very individual style, and it requires the audience to be fairly open-minded

I enjoyed Strictly Ballroom however I saw it when it premiered ages ago. And since then my taste in movies have somewhat matured. ( I saw it when I was 10

). I guess I could rent it out again, but at the moment I'm just too lazy.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Sat Mar 09, 2002 7:42 pm

Originally posted by Tamerlane
I enjoyed Strictly Ballroom however I saw it when it premiered ages ago. And since then my taste in movies have somewhat matured. ( I saw it when I was 10 ). I guess I could rent it out again, but at the moment I'm just too lazy.

Well, I rarely rent videos (only just got a VCR recently as well), and it hasn't been on TV recently... but my friend has been promising to lend me it, I just haven't seen her recently... So I'm not paying for it

I would probably enjoy it, I have been known to do the odd bit of ballroom dancing myself

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Sat Mar 09, 2002 7:51 pm

Originally posted by Georgi
So I'm not paying for it

Thats a great way to increase your motivation factor for seeing the movie. Nothing beats the satisfaction of watching a free movie.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Sat Mar 09, 2002 8:31 pm

Originally posted by Tamerlane
Thats a great way to increase your motivation factor for seeing the movie. Nothing beats the satisfaction of watching a free movie.

Yep

That's why our student cinema manages to be staffed entirely by volunteers

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Sat Mar 09, 2002 11:39 pm

*sigh*

wish we had a student cinema.

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 3:37 pm

I never saw Strictly Ballroom, but I never saw R&J because I once turned on my TV and saw it was on, only it was at the party scene, and seeing Paul Sorvino (Capulet) with makeup in a toga (or was it a dress?), realy discoureged me from seeing it.

On other matters- I just rented the AI DVD today.
I know, I know, we all agreed it was a bad movie, but beeing a Spielberg/ Williams fan, I had to at least rent it.
The DVD is cute if you didn't like the movie and like Spielberg, but probably pretty bad if you don't like either.
@Georgi: I agree that the movie wasn't good as it is, but I what I meant to say was, that Kubrick loved the script, movie and everything about he movie, so it was fitting that it should be made in his memory, and specificaly by the man who he picked to work on the movie with.
About the DVD- it has pretty extensive interviews with all who were involved, a behind the scenes of the affects- visual, special and sound related, alot of pictures and one documetry on the actual making.
BTW- has anyone seen the Final fantasy DVD? IMO the movie was one of the worst I've ever seen- even worse than DnD! it is one of the few movies that I'm actualy sorry to have seen. Any way, I heard that the DvD was great, even for those who dispised the movie. Any comments?

@Sleepy: All this Spielberg talk convinced me to watch Schindler's list again. First of all, I am still amazed at the deapth the movie reached- particulaly in the last scenes, when Schindler says goodbye, and starts talking about how many more he could have saved. And the music. I can't even describe how I feel when I hear it- its like I feel that everyone who had a part in it is crying. Its my second favorite score of all times (second only to The imperial march).
One thing I don't remember noticing in the past- that the girl in red was on of the bodies burned. It realy changes a lot in the mood of the movie.

Another DVD I got: Jay and Silent Bob strike back. This is a hillarious movie, (assuming youv'e seen the other four) it is extriemely vulgar, and has tuns of cameos. IMO the best scenes are with Ben Afflack and Mat Damon, and the scene with James Van der beek(SP) and Jason Biggs. Hllarious stuff.
The DVD is, as other Kevin Smith DVD's, packed with special feature, deleted scenes, bloopers, interviews, feature commentaary, and much, much more. Highly recommended. I just want to make it clear- very, very, vulgar.

One last note: I am planing a double feature in the next few days and I wanted your opinions. The movies I am interested in are:
"The man who wasn't there"
"Black hawk down"
"The royal Tanenbaums" (anyone seen this?)
"In the bedroom"
and "Monsters inc."

I havn't seen any of them yet, and I only have time for two of them.

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 6:30 pm

@ Morlock

Go for the top two.
Man Who Wasn't There and Black Hawk Down.

However, if you want a comedy in somewhere. Go for Monsters Inc. That movie is just hilarious.

VoodooDali · Post by **VoodooDali** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 7:50 pm

Personally, I don't go in for the Oscars at all... I love it when people like Woody Allen turn down the award.

The only good part is watching the bad entertainment that goes along with those awards shows. Although, in terms of bad entertainment, nothing can surpass the ending show for the Winter Olympics. When those children started singing Happy Trails to You, I thought I was gonna hurl.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 7:55 pm

Originally posted by Tamerlane
*sigh*

wish we had a student cinema.

Well, we don't have one this year

It's closed down for refurbishment, which means I have to actually pay to go and see movies - how unfair is that?!?

@VDali - I saw some of the closing ceremony

It was awful

And I agree that all these awards are pretty meaningless, it's all governed by politics and not usually about which is the best movie... But hey, it's still fun to discuss what we think about them

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 8:11 pm

Originally posted by Morlock
I never saw Strictly Ballroom, but I never saw R&J because I once turned on my TV and saw it was on, only it was at the party scene, and seeing Paul Sorvino (Capulet) with makeup in a toga (or was it a dress?), realy discoureged me from seeing it.

I suppose that's understandable

But you should try watching it from the beginning sometime

BTW- has anyone seen the Final fantasy DVD? IMO the movie was one of the worst I've ever seen- even worse than DnD! it is one of the few movies that I'm actualy sorry to have seen. Any way, I heard that the DvD was great, even for those who dispised the movie. Any comments?

Worse that DnD?! FF was bad, but not that bad!

Anyway, I haven't seen the DVD but I'd imagine it has interesting features on how they did the graphics etc, if you like that kind of thing...

One last note: I am planing a double feature in the next few days and I wanted your opinions. The movies I am interested in are:
"The man who wasn't there"
"Black hawk down"
"The royal Tanenbaums" (anyone seen this?)
"In the bedroom"
and "Monsters inc."

Ummm, well, what kind of movie are you in the mood for?

Royal Tenenbaums is out here next weekend I think, but I've heard good things about it. My pick of that lot would be the same as Tammy

p), but don't go for BHD if you're in the mood for something lighthearted

Monsters Inc is a great comedy, I found In The Bedroom a bit dull.

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 11:06 pm

Originally posted by VoodooDali
Personally, I don't go in for the Oscars at all... I love it when people like Woody Allen turn down the award.

Sorry to burst your buble, but Woody Allen won an oscar, and didn't seem to 'remember' to turn it down. (t happened with "Annie Hall" in 1977)

Originally posted by VoodooDali
The only good part is watching the bad entertainment that goes along with those awards shows.

What!? The main reason I watch the oscars is for the entertainment! I thought two of the funniest things I've ever seen were the 97 and 98 oscars! Those were the years of English patient and titanic- so obviously I didn't see it because of the good movies nominated.

Anyway, in the past few years- 97 and 98 with Billy Crystal were hillarious, 99 was pretty dull except for a few great jokes by Whoopi Goldberg, 2000 was a little better than 99 because of Billy Crystal, and 2001 was good, at times very funny, but Steve Martin turned it into a stand up show, which isn't the right kind of entertainment for the oscars. I am not very hopefull of Whoopi this coming year either.

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 11:14 pm

Originally posted by Georgi

@VDali - I saw some of the closing ceremony It was awful

Are you telling me that that patriotic BS doesn't touch you!?

I didn't see it, but I was impressed with the opening ceremony, if only because of the flag carriers, Steven Spielberg

, Desmund Tutu, Helmut Kohl, Lech Walesa, John Glenn, I don't remember who else, but it is certainly an impressive display!

Tamerlane · Post by **Tamerlane** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 11:17 pm

Whoopi Goldberg has it again this year.

I was hoping to see a return of Billy Crystal.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 7:19 am

Originally posted by Morlock
I never saw Strictly Ballroom, but I never saw R&J because I once turned on my TV and saw it was on, only it was at the party scene, and seeing Paul Sorvino (Capulet) with makeup in a toga (or was it a dress?), realy discoureged me from seeing it.

Some of it was camped up nonesense, but Pete Pothelswaite(sp?) was really good in it, one also feels something at the ending, surprisingly i felt nothing at the end of the play. It is a decent movie, the soundtrack is very good.

@Sleepy: All this Spielberg talk convinced me to watch Schindler's list again. First of all, I am still amazed at the deapth the movie reached- particulaly in the last scenes, when Schindler says goodbye, and starts talking about how many more he could have saved. And the music. I can't even describe how I feel when I hear it- its like I feel that everyone who had a part in it is crying. Its my second favorite score of all times (second only to The imperial march).
One thing I don't remember noticing in the past- that the girl in red was on of the bodies burned. It realy changes a lot in the mood of the movie.

I recall that scene like no other i can think of. It is just so evocotive, it was one of the best moments in Cinema history IMO

Also i am surprised it was a PG, there is that scene when they are panning along the line of naked men, that scene was so shocking

@Vdali & Georgi, you haven't seen anything until you have seen the opening ceremony for the World Cup in France, they had the most surreal opening ceremony ever, i can't even begin to describe it's strangness

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:09 pm

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
I recall that scene like no other i can think of. It is just so evocotive, it was one of the best moments in Cinema history IMO Also i am surprised it was a PG, there is that scene when they are panning along the line of naked men, that scene was so shocking

Actualy the US was one of the few countries to rate it R.
UK rated it 15.

You thought it was powerful then, but when I saw it in the movie theater, I saw it with my grandfather- who was a WW2 veteran and liberated several death camps, my granfather's cousin, who's family were killed in Krakow, and in a movie theater in Jerusalem, full with people who probably have some of the same history.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 1:21 pm

Originally posted by Morlock

Actualy the US was one of the few countries to rate it R.
UK rated it 15.

You thought it was powerful then, but when I saw it in the movie theater, I saw it with my grandfather- who was a WW2 veteran and liberated several death camps, my granfather's cousin, who's family were killed in Krakow, and in a movie theater in Jerusalem, full with people who probably have some of the same history.

Really? I was sure it was a PG, oh well, it wouldn't be the first time i am wrong

Well my Grandfather was in the Home Guard

Seriously though, i can see how that would change one's perspective on the film, it was very true to what happened in the war also, were there any complaints on facts from the veterans who you were there with?

It was very un-hollywood not to distort history to suit the franchise.

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 2:02 pm

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Really? I was sure it was a PG, oh well, it wouldn't be the first time i am wrong

I found it at imdb.

Well my Grandfather was in the Home Guard Seriously though, i can see how that would change one's perspective on the film, it was very true to what happened in the war also, were there any complaints on facts from the veterans who you were there with?

The only complaint I've ever heard about the movie is that it was unnecesary to have nudity in it. Now I can agree that it didn't have to have the topless woman in Amon Goethe's (Ralph
Fienes) bed, but the lines of the undressed mn and woman could hardly be considered pornographic matirial, it was another very disturbing sight, that added to the movie's effectivenes.
I also heard, that the reason Spielberg put the naked women in the bed, was to give another reason why parents wouldn't go with their kids to the movie. He saw the potential for nightmares and such.

Anyway, everyone who I know that saw it- that includes both my grandfathers who are WW2 vets and people who were in the camps, said the movie was very accurate. My grandfather's cousin especialy remembered the days when the ash from the fires filled the air, to look like snow.

It was very un-hollywood not to distort history to suit the franchise

Well, the movie is not a movie for entertainment, Spielberg made it a personal message coming from a jew, who's family is Eastern Europian in origin. That's the main reason I respect him, he is a man who is part of a rather limited religion of which I am a part of, who has, in essence, the same history as me and I seem to agree with everything he says and believes in.

I would recomend you read his mini biography

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 3:00 pm

Originally posted by Morlock
The only complaint I've ever heard about the movie is that it was unnecesary to have nudity in it. Now I can agree that it didn't have to have the topless woman in Amon Goethe's (Ralph
Fienes) bed, but the lines of the undressed mn and woman could hardly be considered pornographic matirial, it was another very disturbing sight, that added to the movie's effectivenes.
I also heard, that the reason Spielberg put the naked women in the bed, was to give another reason why parents wouldn't go with their kids to the movie. He saw the potential for nightmares and such.

That makes sense to me, i feel the same way about films like "The Big Lebowski" the excessive swearing in that movie seems to be to stop a younger audience seeing it and not understanding the humour. There are many other examples of movies that have scenes just for the certificate.

Of course there are other examples which schew the other way, "The End of the Affair" was an example where it should have been a fifteen but was put up to 18 because of some sex. The sex that i speak of is not pornographic, it was a lot more arty and the film should have been a 15 IMO

Anyway, everyone who I know that saw it- that includes both my grandfathers who are WW2 vets and people who were in the camps, said the movie was very accurate. My grandfather's cousin especialy remembered the days when the ash from the fires filled the air, to look like snow.

That was my impression also, very accurate

Well, the movie is not a movie for entertainment, Spielberg made it a personal message coming from a jew, who's family is Eastern Europian in origin. That's the main reason I respect him, he is a man who is part of a rather limited religion of which I am a part of, who has, in essence, the same history as me and I seem to agree with everything he says and believes in.

I would recomend you read his mini biography

As a man i have nothing but respect for him, Schindlers List is also an absolutely brilliant film, i look forward to the day he gets back to that form

Rather than AI, which i have no respect for

Will do, not sure when, probably tomorrow in work when i am bored

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 4:51 pm

Originally posted by Mr Sleep
Rather than AI, which i have no respect for

I have actualy a lot of respect for the making, despite the end result.

I just wanted to post something funny which I saw in A.I.
I don't know if you remember, but there is a scene at the start where Jigolo Joe is dancing in the street- there are a few hotels and motels. Anyway, and I had to pause to see this, was that the name of the motel which he enters is àäáä ëùøä or Ahava K'shera which is hebrew for Kosher Love.
Also at the end of some of the trailers f the movie, after everything it said in Red Chochma which is hebrew for intelligence. Just a couple of things Spielberg put in. I thought it was funny.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 4:59 pm

Originally posted by Morlock

I have actualy a lot of respect for the making, despite the end result.

I am glad to see you are not such a die hard fan that you can't see the poorness of the film, i am impressed

I just wanted to post something funny which I saw in A.I.
I don't know if you remember, but there is a scene at the start where Jigolo Joe is dancing in the street- there are a few hotels and motels. Anyway, and I had to pause to see this, was that the name of the motel which he enters is àäáä ëùøä or Ahava K'shera which is hebrew for Kosher Love.
Also at the end of some of the trailers f the movie, after everything it said in Red Chochma which is hebrew for intelligence. Just a couple of things Spielberg put in. I thought it was funny.

LOL

I will address more spielberg issues tomorrow, i have to get to bed, night