References to BG2 characters?

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 12:09 am

In another thread I said Keldorn being mentioned in Ajantis' bio. Are there more references to BG2 characters in BG1? Has anyone noticed? Of course some NPC's are both in 1 & 2, and Saverok is in ToB but I mean references to new NPC's of BG2.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 1:45 am

The woman in the spidercave (the fat one) talkes about Jon Iccarus
Dousn't that name ring a bell?

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 1:55 am

Jon I... yeah, I've heard of him. Bad mutha, right?

Actually, I noticed that myself in my earlier games but didn't remember it anymore. Thanks.

Makes me wonder; whether ppl at Bioware had actually thought of BG2 plot already when they made BG1, or did they just take a neat name they had used in BG1 for the main villain in the sequel.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:21 am

See the pantaloon story!!!!

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:57 am

I vaguely remembered reading something about pantaloons, so I searched from the forum, and man, this is great!! I'm on my way to friendly arm inn this moment to look for the 1st pantaloons.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:21 am

At gamebanshee there is a description of all hints pointing out that there's something about the pantaloons!

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:29 am

Yep, i read about them.

The only problem now is that I'm trying to get throuhg the game with the smallest possible party, and my inventory is full already. Where should i put the pantaloons for the rest of the game?!?

Perhaps i take a npc to my party, gibe pantaloons to him/her and try to remember collect them in the end of the game....

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:30 am

I put then in a chest in the Friendly arms in
(or just drop them, and edit them in in the end, you'll know you had them when you played)

fable · Post by **fable** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 8:26 am

Originally posted by Moleman
Makes me wonder; whether ppl at Bioware had actually thought of BG2 plot already when they made BG1, or did they just take a neat name they had used in BG1 for the main villain in the sequel.

I can't speak specifically for the Bioware folks, but I know that some developers (and many good writers) plan out all the history of their characters and areas in advance of doing a specific novel in a given setting. That's because it feels more real to the writers; and because when internal references carry over the edges of a novel or a game, there's a sense of continuity to a greater universe that makes the whole thing feel more "alive."

Hope that helps.

Eerhardt · Post by **Eerhardt** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 9:33 am

I also heared that the sculptor in BG I, Prism, mentions Ellesime as his source of inspiration.

Belecthor · Post by **Belecthor** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:56 pm

Lord Foreshadow, just north of Nashkel, mentions Ribald(owner of the Adventurer's Mart)

Leonardo · Post by **Leonardo** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 1:21 pm

Ellesime is not BG exclusive, she´s an AD&D character as famous as Elminster and Drizzt.

Sojourner · Post by **Sojourner** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 1:32 pm

Don't forget the references to IWD and Neverwinter.

Youghford · Post by **Youghford** » Wed Mar 06, 2002 4:57 pm

I believe Faldorn the NPC is the shadow druid leader in the Trademeet quest...

kopywrite · Post by **kopywrite** » Thu Mar 07, 2002 6:02 am