The Dada Factory

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 4:38 pm

Originally posted by der Moench
@VoodooDali: Seriously, what is written above makes no sense - is there an actual idea behind Dada, or is it just schizophrenia on display?

(This is an honest question - I don't mean to sound cheeky or anything.)[/color]

VooDoo and Georgi certainly knows much more than I do about these things, but when I was in art school (many years ago) I looked deep (to deep

) into the dadaism because I have a general interest in paradigm shifting events in art and science.

I perceive dadaism as a very intellectual movement by people who really wanted to change art, the concept and defintion of art as well as experimenting with new forms and methods. Tzara's Dada manifest and later Breton's surrelism manifesto might sound like nonsense, but there were real ideas behind it, and it changed art in a revolutionary way.

To better understand the meaning of Dada, one could read also Hugo Ball and the Swiss groups of artists who started the dadist movement.

To me, Marcel Duchamps is one of the most important figures in dadaism, and he also made some writing.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 4:54 pm

So, is there a book on this?

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 5:49 pm

@Aegis: Oh, there must be hundreds of books about Dada, think link might provide some useful info:

http://www.bergen.org/AAST/Projects/Dadaism/first.html

They use the definition:

"A western European artistic and literary movement (1916-23) that sought the discovery of authentic reality through the abolition of traditional culture and aesthetic forms.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 5:58 pm

Originally posted by C Elegans
@Aegis: Oh, there must be hundreds of books about Dada, think link might provide some useful info:

http://www.bergen.org/AAST/Projects/Dadaism/first.html

They use the definition:

"A western European artistic and literary movement (1916-23) that sought the discovery of authentic reality through the abolition of traditional culture and aesthetic forms.

So is it close to the Bahaus movement? (pretending i am an intellectual

)

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 7:16 pm

Re: Voodoo Dali wrote

Originally posted by Curdis

Is that the proverbial 'hair of the dog that bit you?' -

Dada is the hair, the dog, and the bite. It is proverbial, especially if this is Tuesday, and you are wearing a nice carnation. Eight times that, if the carnation is in your lapel, instead of pinned to your chest.

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 8:37 pm

Originally posted by Mr Sleep

So is it close to the Bahaus movement? (pretending i am an intellectual )

Eh, I really couldn't say what relationship Bauhaus had to Dada, (*waits for VooDoo or Georgi to turn up in this thread*), but I think that the Bauhaus school, a cornerstone in modernism, was one of several movements in art that turned up as a consequence of the new view and new forms of art that Dada provoked.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 8:44 pm

so, is Dada like a religion or belief? Or is some form of philisophical theory?

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 9:05 pm

Originally posted by Aegis
so, is Dada like a religion or belief? Or is some form of philisophical theory?

It's not a religion, and I wouldn't call it a philosophy either - rather an art movement, an "-ism", a certain way to view art and aestethics.

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 9:14 pm

Dada is. And it isn't.

And maybe c) all of the above, and d) none of the above.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Feb 01, 2002 9:22 pm

Originally posted by fable
Dada is. And it isn't.

And maybe c) all of the above, and d) none of the above.

sure sounds philisophical to me...

THE JAKER · Post by **THE JAKER** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 10:28 am

a cup, a plate, a knife, a spoon, the brown cow jumps over the blue moon. I saw you standing there. Where?

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sat Feb 02, 2002 12:03 pm

Originally posted by THE JAKER
a cup, a plate, a knife, a spoon, the brown cow jumps over the blue moon. I saw you standing there. Where?

and the Dada thickens...

VoodooDali · Post by **VoodooDali** » Sun Feb 03, 2002 10:28 am

Re: Re: Voodoo Dali wrote

Originally posted by fable

Dada is the hair, the dog, and the bite. It is proverbial, especially if this is Tuesday, and you are wearing a nice carnation. Eight times that, if the carnation is in your lapel, instead of pinned to your chest.

Ah, Fable, you are a man after my own heart...