plots.

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 3:40 pm

Here are a few movies which I didn't get part of them. If you figured it out, please post it here. Feel free to post your own.

1.The Godfather III: Who killed the pope? I didn't understand, in the last big sequence with the play and the simultanius murders, they showed the pope - who was on the Corlione's side - dead by poisoned tea. Who did it? they didn't say!

2.Dogma: They said that if Bartelby and Loki went into the church then their sins are forgiven, all they need to do is have their wings cut off, and be killed. Now Jay shot off Bartelby's wings, before he entered the church, so can't they just kill him there, now that he is mortal? his sins were not forgiven- so he would go to hell, end of story!

3- Godfather 2,3: Where did don Altobello(Part 3) and Pentangali (part 2) come from? are they metioned at all in the previous movies (I mean parts 1/2)

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 4:10 pm

1. Never saw the third one

2. Good question, although I believe murder, for some reason would have absolved his sins or something along those lines. It's been a while since I've seen that one but I believe there is a reason. I thought the same thing you did.

3. Altobello - again, didn't see part III

Frank 'five angels' Pantangali was a soldier for the good don, God rest his soul, back in the first Godfather. when Michael made the move to nevada, Fat Clemenza got to start his own famille and was exonerated of any duites, asides loyalty, to the Corleone's. Tessio, well, he died. So Pantangali wound up taking over for the Corleone family in New York. He still answered to Michael but was responsible for maintaining family power in New York for Michael. This relationship helps explain Frank's confusion regarding the Rizotto brothers when he comes out to nevada to clear things up with michael. If Frank is in New York to maintain Corleone power, why is Michael asking frank to lay down to those rizotto punks. Does any of this make sense. I'd be happy to elaborate further. However, Mario Puzo does a much better job than I. Read the godfather, it's fantastic.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Thu Jan 17, 2002 4:11 pm

Well, I can answer the Dogma one. The reason they didn't kill him was because Jay ran out of bullets for his "Angel Be Good Special", and Bartleby made a break for the church.

BTW, have you seen the infamous Fat Albert scene that was cut out of the final cut? Funny as hell!

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 4:32 am

@Aegis: never saw it.

Are there any other Kevin Smith fans in these boards?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 5:24 am

Originally posted by Morlock:
Are there any other Kevin Smith fans in these boards?

I thought Chasing Amy was really good, i also enjoyed Mall Rats and Clerks, i wouldn't call myself a fan of his work but i do enjoy some of his skewed ideas

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 6:48 am

I thought that Clercks was very weak.
Mallrats was realy good.
Chasing amy was weak wxcept for the Jay and silent Bob scene.
Dogma was great. (Especialy Allen Rickman)
Jay and Silent Bob was very funy, but bordered too much on the line between stupid comedy and intelligent stupidity. Although all the cameos were great.

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 7:01 am

Originally posted by Morlock:
I thought that Clercks was very weak.
Mallrats was realy good.
Chasing amy was weak wxcept for the Jay and silent Bob scene.
Dogma was great. (Especialy Allen Rickman)
Jay and Silent Bob was very funy, but bordered too much on the line between stupid comedy and intelligent stupidity. Although all the cameos were great.

Clerks was weak but quite enjoyable

Definately

I think Chasing Amy was probably the closest thing Kevin Smith has done to a normal film that actually has a conserted and consistent story, it is definately he most mainstream of his films

I wasn't that impressed with Dogma although Alan Rickman was great as was Chris Rock

I menat to watch it but the local cinema only showed it for one night

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 1:29 pm

Alan Rickmen and Chris Rock were the best parts of Dogma...

Obsidian · Post by **Obsidian** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 4:48 pm

Chris Rock were the best parts

Watch my respect for Aegis dwindle noticebly...
(Dont worry, your still cool)

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Fri Jan 18, 2002 8:40 pm

Originally posted by Knight Errant:
Watch my respect for Aegis dwindle noticebly...
(Dont worry, your still cool)

What you got against Chris Rock?

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 1:05 am

I just thought of this one:
In the phantom menace, why does the emperer (in the form of plpatine) seem happy, even glad about the victory of Naboo, or is this just him acting the part of Palpatine?
And also how does he tie in to the rest of the movies, I mean how does he use his power as supreme chansler (sp) to his advantage, and when is he found out?

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:23 am

Originally posted by Morlock
I just thought of this one:
In the phantom menace, why does the emperer (in the form of plpatine) seem happy, even glad about the victory of Naboo, or is this just him acting the part of Palpatine?
And also how does he tie in to the rest of the movies, I mean how does he use his power as supreme chansler (sp) to his advantage, and when is he found out?

1. I think they'd figure him out if he didn't pretend to be happy about it.

2. Funny you should ask that, as it happens I was just chatting to George Lucas, and he says... you're going to have to hand over your hard-earned cash in order to see Episodes 2 and 3 to find out

KidD01 · Post by **KidD01** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:15 pm

Originally posted by Georgi
<SNIP>2. Funny you should ask that, as it happens I was just chatting to George Lucas, and he says... you're going to have to hand over your hard-earned cash in order to see Episodes 2 and 3 to find out

If you're saying is true can you tell me when and the details, Georgeous ?

Morlock · Post by **Morlock** » Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:43 pm

Originally posted by Georgi

1. I think they'd figure him out if he didn't pretend to be happy about it.

2. Funny you should ask that, as it happens I was just chatting to George Lucas, and he says... you're going to have to hand over your hard-earned cash in order to see Episodes 2 and 3 to find out

1. Thats what I assumed, but he must've thought he wasn't going to succeed, or else why woudl he put his alter ego (Palpatine) in the stratigic position of supreme chansler.

2. My senses aren't so keen now a days, but is that sarcasm I hear?

I meant that I know that the basics of the 6 movies are known, and was wondering if anyone had knows a bit more of the plot line.