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why Division I-A college football needs a playoff

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If you're not a football fan, don't bother reading any more because I'm going to go on a rant and it probably won't be pretty.
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I love football. Several years ago I told my wife that I would never complain about football (college or pro) if two things happened: instant replay and Division I-A playoffs. I got one, but it looks like the other may never happen if ABC, the six biggest conferences and the bowls continue to have their (flawed) way.

The bowls and the BCS are all about money. Everyone knows that, but no one who works for
the NCAA, the conglomerate that is Disney/ABC/ESPN, or the major college franchises (Notre Dame, Florida State, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, Miami, Florida, et al) will ever admit as much. The BCS is a contrived way for Notre Dame and the six biggest conferences (Big 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12, Big East, Pac 10) to keep all of the major bowl money among themselves and out of the hands of upstart teams who happen to have a good year (ie-Marshall, Tulane, BYU, etc.).

The pro-BCS people talk a good line. They will tell you that college teams play a lot already. They will tell you that college kids are amateurs and shouldn't be required to "work" more. They will tell you that the bowls are about tradition. They will tell you that the bowls are about rewarding the best teams in college football with an extra game at the end of the season. They will tell you that the smaller conferences (MAC, WAC, Mountain West, Conference USA) aren't as tough as the big six. That's a crock of hooey.

Let's start with the first point: College kids play too much already, and that adding a playoff is too many games. Say What?!?!!?! Last I checked, a number of teams already schedule twelve games in the form of a season opening "classic" game that is about generating even more money. If they play in the SEC, the Big 12, or the MAC, there's a chance they'll play in the conference championship game. Add on a bowl, and there's the possibility of playing 14 games in a season.

Sure that's more than the 11 "regular season" games, but I don't think you'll hear any kids from Division III Mount Union (who will be playing for their fifth National Championship in six years next weekend) complain about a fifteen game season, and they don't get scholarships (By the way: Go Purple Raiders!)

Point two: College kids aren't pros. When asked if he would play in a playoff, Derrick Brooks (LB, Florida State) replied, "Yeah, if they paid us." You know what? Brooks did get paid. Maybe not in cash (although there's no guarantee of that anymore), but last I checked he got five years of free college education at Florida State University which was worth about $8-10K a year (tuition, fees, books, room and board, medical treatment, etc.) while he was at FSU. And that's at a public school.

How many of us would have liked to get a free ride at the school of our choice? Better yet, how many of us would have liked to get a visit from a representative of that school begging us to come and study there? College athletes are paid; if they're smart they take advantage of the $50-125K
worth of education they get at no charge.

Point three: (: :in Fidler on the Roof voice:: ) Tradition!!!! Tradi--what?? What's traditional about the Insight.com Bowl or the Outback Bowl or the Micronpc Bowl? How about the Nokia Sugar Bowl, the FedEx Orange Bowl, or the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl? Bowl games are supposed to be named after fruits and agricultural products, not companies. Did
anyone but me notice that there probably won't be a Pac-10 and Big 10 team playing in the Rose Bowl Presented by AT&T this year? Tradition? Bah!

Point four: Bowls reward the best teams in football. The hell they do. It was absolutely criminal that Hawaii (9-3) was not invited to a bowl this year, especially after manhandling BYU 72-45. Last year, Toledo kicked Penn State to the curb, finished 10-1 and found themselves at home in December and January. Meanwhile, the eighth place SEC team can go 6-5 and get into a bowl. There are so many conference tie-ins with bowls that it is impossible for the small conferences to get their #2 and #3 teams in because the ACC, Big 10 and Big 12 conferences have their #7 and #8 teams
already scheduled.

Point five: No, the smaller conferences from top to bottom are not as deep as the larger ones. But get a kid from Linebacker U. last year to tell you what a creampuff Toledo was. Or why doesn't someone ask Colorado how easy Fresno State was to walk all over this year? And don't the six big conferences have cakewalks of their own (Vanderbilt, Rutgers, Northwestern, Duke, Baylor, Cal) that they barely acknowledge? The competition may not be there every week, but the smaller conferences have done a good job in the recent past to show that they can be competitive with the big schools.

Here's how we fix it: 16 team, four round playoffs. Every other major college sport has playoffs, including Division I-AA, Division II, and Division III football. So why not for Division I-A football?

Sixteen teams will guarantee that everyone with even the slightest chance at the national championship will be invited to play. Each conference champion and all of the undefeated teams are automatically invited. The remaining spots (up to six) will be determined by a panel of sportswriters, NCAA officials, and coaches.

To keep the season from going to too long, the conference championship games and the "classic" games will be abolished; they're only about money anyway and if the "classic" happens to be a rivalry, schedule it every year like Florida-FSU, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Army-Navy et al. The playoffs will start the week after Thanksgiving and end on New Years Day.

Similarly to the basketball regions, football will have four brackets (North, South, East, West) with four teams each. All games will be played on neutral sites with the championship being played in a roving venue. Each site will take the name of a traditional bowl to preserve the lineage and history. For the teams who don't have a shot at the national championship, there will be a second tier similar to the NIT.

Will this way be perfect? No. There will always be one or two teams who could argue they should have been the #15 and #16 seeds. But would they have a chance at the national championship? Probably not. It would guarantee each conference an even shot at the national title, and allow the smaller schools a glimmer of the glory, if for no other reason than to be that year's Gonzaga.

Who will hate this system? The SEC. The Big 10. Notre Dame. All of the big conferences who want to keep all of the money. But you know what? With the level playing field that limited scholarships have brought to college football, the big schools are no longer as dominant as they once were. And the smaller schools are getting better.

The is absolutely no reason why the national champion must be determined by computers, fickle voters who play favourites and men in back rooms. Hell, a fortune teller with a Ouija board and a Scrabble set could get it right better than the BCS. It's time for all of the debates to stop: for Colorado to shut up about how they kicked the crap out of Nebraska but dropped two of their own, for Miami to quit whining about how they were cheated out of playing Oklahoma last year, for Maryland and Illinois and Oregon to win their conferences with one loss each but get shunted out of the national championship game. It's put up or shut up time.

The Division I-A football national champion must be determined on the field; there's no rational reason not to have a playoffs and the BCS monstrosity has managed to dodge the bullets for three years, but it's time is just about up.

Sorry to go on so long; hope I didn't lose anyone. For my part, I urge all fans of college football to boycott the BCS in person and on TV; I certainly won't be watching any of the games. Plus you should write/call/e-mail everyone associated with the BCS and tell them what a sham it is. Then watch Mount Union take on Bridgewater (VA) this weekend.

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I love college football, more than NFL.
My favorite team is Ohio State. I loved them for a long time.

Anyway to your point. The BCS is unfair, but the choices are made according to who is going to draw the audience.
Most people rather see Big10 or SEC teams.
Michigan and Ohio State and their likes are always in the Top 25 no matter if they've lost 2 out of 4 games. People want them there, so they stay there.

I really don't want playoffs, but what everybody wants to see is the 2 best teams play in the finals. Often one no.1 team may go to the Rose Bowl and another goes to the Orange Bowl.

Haven't been to college i can't tell how unfair it feels to the people from the colleges that are cheated out.
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Post by HighLordDave »

Originally posted by ThorinOakensfield:
<STRONG>Anyway to your point. The BCS is unfair, but the choices are made according to who is going to draw the audience.</STRONG>
How does anyone know that a school like Marshall or Tulane won't put lots of asses in seats if given the chance? Sure the first year or two, they will have a small crowd, but after a while (and given a chance to build a larger following) they might be able to draw the same crowd as a Penn State or Tennessee.

<STRONG>
Most people rather see Big10 or SEC teams. . . . People want them there, so they stay there.</STRONG>
I think this is more conceit than reality. I grew up in Tallahassee and remember rooting for the Seminoles for all of my life. But there was a time when the program was not only horrible (4-29 over a three year span) but there was talk of dismantling it.

Then a guy named Bobby Bowden, fresh off of being run out of Morgantown, WV on a rail, arrived and established the most dominant program of the last quarter century. Doak Campbell stadium went from rusty bleachers held together by spit and bailing wire to a luxury-box venue that's better than half of the NFL stadiums.

Where would FSU be if they had been shut out of national bowl appearances in the early 80s? That's what the big conferences have done in the last 10 years. They've affiliated themselves with automatic bids by convincing bowls that people want to see their #6 and #7 teams instead of a 9-2 Conference USA or 10-1 MAC team.

<STRONG>
I really don't want playoffs, but what everybody wants to see is the 2 best teams play in the finals. Often one no.1 team may go to the Rose Bowl and another goes to the Orange Bowl. </STRONG>
The way I see it, in any given year, there are three or four teams that can claim a legitimate chance at being #1. Then there are four or five more that have an outside shot; they not only need help, but they need a lot of luck. Also, there may be one or two teams that can ride a wave of momentum and play spoiler or even make a run at a championship.

A larger problem with the poll & bowl system is that teams who lose early in the seaon (ie-1993 Florida State who lost their opening game to Notre Dame, but ran the table to win the national championship) can come back and win, while teams who lose late get screwed. The polls penalise teams who have a great season, except for 10 minutes of bad football at the end of week 10.

The polls are flawed because of other peoples' interests in them. The AP voters have favourites (ie-Nebraska) and the coaches live in a good ole'boy network. A true #1 vs. #2 matchup is rare because there isn't always a clear candidate for the top spots. Deciding on the field will end all arguments.

<STRONG>
Haven't been to college i can't tell how unfair it feels to the people from the colleges that are cheated out.</STRONG>
I recently got my Masters degree from Marshall University, and while the football folks around here have a lot of issues related to entitlement, it is a little discouraging to know that no matter how well the Thundering Herd does, there is no chance that they will ever play in a BCS game or finish better than 8-10 in either poll.

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@ HIghLordDave

Does the Herd basketball team still play in the CAM Henderson center. I have great memories of that building.

As far as the focus of your thread goes, I don't know where I stand.

I am as large a college football fan as yourself and have spent my life watching teams get screwed out of this and that. The BCS is a frickin' sham dominated by dollars. All sports have been completely bastardized due to marketing and big business. I remember a time when NCAA college football bowl games started on New Years day weekend and not Halloween weekend.

However, despite how disgruntled you are with college football's current selection process of determining a national champion, you are only cheating yourself as a fan by boycotting the games. Even though college football has been ruined by politics and legal tender, it doesn't affect the kids given the fact they'll always give great effort and provide an entertaining football games. The kids will play hard no matter what game they are involved in. That's what places NCAA football on a higher plateau than the NFL.

I don't the think the BCS is going anywhere unfortunately because it is too successful. Is it fair, hell no, but it a money making machine and that's the country we live in. Personally, I'd rather go back to fewer bowls and the fact you gotta win your conference to get to a bowl. Then let the varmints figure out who is national champion later.

Or, go to back to the eight big bowl games, keep them to save tradition, and let the winners move on into an 8 team playoff bracket.

I'll let you reply, my thoughts are getting too scattered.
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Originally posted by ThorinOakensfield:
<STRONG>I love college football, more than NFL.
My favorite team is Ohio State. I loved them for a long time.

Anyway to your point. The BCS is unfair, but the choices are made according to who is going to draw the audience.
Most people rather see Big10 or SEC teams.
Michigan and Ohio State and their likes are always in the Top 25 no matter if they've lost 2 out of 4 games. People want them there, so they stay there.

I really don't want playoffs, but what everybody wants to see is the 2 best teams play in the finals. Often one no.1 team may go to the Rose Bowl and another goes to the Orange Bowl.

Haven't been to college i can't tell how unfair it feels to the people from the colleges that are cheated out.</STRONG>

Ohio State, you weenie. I'm a Michigan State fan. :p GO GREEN I know Sparty didn't do well this year. But, wait until next year. :mad:

I do like collage football the best. But, the BCS is rediculas. Huskers going to the Rose Bowl and not Colorado. What a crock o' crap. I hope Miami, destroys the Huskers.

How many of you are CCHA fans??? Collage hockey is a great watch too. GO GREEN, Sparty Rules. :D :D
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I think what bothers me most about the BCS is that it was sold to the public as the way of guaranteeing that the best teams in college football played for the national championship when in fact it is all about money. I'd like for someone, anyone, from the NCAA to come out and say, "The BCS is really a marketing gimmick to make a lot of money for the Big 10, the Pac 10, the Big East, the ACC, the Big 12, the SEC and Notre Dame while shutting out the smaller conferences so they can't get in on the scam."

Of course, no one will do that because that would expose them as the greedy bastards they are. I think it's the deception that bothers me more than the product. If someone would just come out and say that, I don't think I'd hate it as much, and no one would have to look stupid while explaining how the BCS is fair and good for the sport when in fact it has failed. Twice. That's half the time. Windows doesn't crash that much. Shaq's free throw percentage is higher.

Instead, the pro-BCS folks make Bud Selig look like a fiscal genius and all-round good guy instead of a yes-man on the baseball owners' short leash (I'd go on but that's another topic).

@Ned Flanders: Yes, the Thundering Herd still plays in the Henderson Center, although the building is showing its age badly. There's talk of renovation, ranging from remodeling to razing the building and constructing a new one. That will probably depend on how much money they can get out of the state and private donors.
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