Why do nice guys finish last?

AbysmalNature · Post by **AbysmalNature** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 5:46 pm

Well it is a proven scientific fact, studies show that women will go for the bad guy rather then the good guy. For all the talk about saying that they want someone who is nice and sensitive, and understands them, but who they really want are the bad guys, the A-holes, it is curious, why do you think that is? Is it that primal instinct to copulate with a manly man or what? Any thoughts fellow members, what do the women here think that is?

THE JAKER · Post by **THE JAKER** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 6:00 pm

Hey did anyone see the simpsons last week where Mr. Burns was dating, but then the girl left him for Snake (the criminal guy), and then Mr. Burns was like "so she like the bad boys, eh? Well I'm bad...I'm positively diabolical."

Also want to reference the classic "George Costanza: Bad Boy" episode of Seinfeld.

All i can say is, women like bad boys, and as a man, I like bad girls!

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 6:27 pm

Well it is a proven scientific fact, studies show that women will go for the bad guy rather then the good guy.

I heard it was a proven scientific fact that anybody who believed this particular scientific fact had green hair growing in their nostrils.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 7:12 pm

It's the fact that human's, in general, are a very superficial and shallow race.

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 7:22 pm

What exactly are a "Bad" or a "Good" guy? i have never seen this defined in a good way... still ive heard alot of people(usally males who think they are "Good") talk about how "Bad" guys got to have all the fun...

Also have i noticed that woman (and men) in general are a rather diverse group

FudD · Post by **FudD** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 7:32 pm

Originally posted by Dottie:
What exactly are a "Bad" or a "Good" guy?

can sumone enlighten me (us)? I have heard this to many times and would like to know what "good" and "bad" are....mostly so i know how to classify myself

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 8:16 pm

Originally posted by AbysmalNature:
Well it is a proven scientific fact, studies show that women will go for the bad guy rather then the good guy. For all the talk about saying that they want someone who is nice and sensitive, and understands them, but who they really want are the bad guys, the A-holes, it is curious, why do you think that is? Is it that primal instinct to copulate with a manly man or what? Any thoughts fellow members, what do the women here think that is?

As a girl who beleives strongly in romance and all that, I think it is the "forbidden fruit" aspect. The "bad boy" is, supposedly, the guy that is dangerous to be with; whereas, the "good boy" is considered the "safe choice."

An example is the Relena/Heero "romance" in the beginning part of Gundam Wing. Relena pursues Heero because she knows he's dangerous. She's a "good girl" and, thus, the danger attracts her. (Luckily she realized her mistake and gave up on Heero and went with Dorothy instead.

)

CM · Post by CM » Sun Dec 09, 2001 10:38 pm

All i know is that i finish last!

Don't know if i am good or bad.

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 10:46 pm

Because life would be dull without a little bit of evil in your life?

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Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Sun Dec 09, 2001 11:19 pm

Well from my personal experience in this - it sux that women want "danger" like this.

In aspects concerning the heart (that was neutral said

) I've alwasy concidered myself a "nice guy" (in all other aspect of life, I'm properly not

) and I've tried to loose a girl to her ex-boyfriend whom pysically abused her, you know, bounced her around a bit - and I must say I just don't understand them.

FudD · Post by **FudD** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 12:46 am

hmmmnnnn...

good = safe
bad = dangerous

not sure what it means still...maybe i'm just dense and won't eva get it...heh

now safe meaning....he won't cheat on you, he won't hit you, he won't leave you, he will always love you....is that what i am to understand safe means?

dangerous being just the opposite....

I really need to know...see i'm getting old and need a female companion....so am I safe or dangerous...and which is more desirable??

really I don't need to know...I all ready have the awnsers

yet it is interesting to see what everyone else thinks....

actually i think i just confused the hell outa myself...hehe

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 3:29 am

Be a nice guy.

Would you really want to be someone who hits women, cheats on them, treats them like dirt.

If women go for that and not the nice guys, its their loss.

PS If nice guys finish last, that means bad guys come first. You're welcome to them ladies.

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Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 7:38 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<snip>
PS If nice guys finish last, that means bad guys come first. You're welcome to them ladies.

Uuuhh - that was subtle(sp?)

Brink · Post by **Brink** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 7:43 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
Be a nice guy.

OMG!!Did Gruntboy really write this, or are my eyes deceiving me??

Omar · Post by **Omar** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 8:01 am

Why? Because women are stupid! That's why!

(hmmm, was that a forum rules violation?)

Or...perhaps all guys are good and some of them just change for the worse after having had contact with a woman?!
How many men here in SYM can claim that their life improved after they met a woman?

Postulate : guys are bad because their women make them look like that!

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 8:47 am

Xandax - Subtle? I just slipped it in.

Brink - (hiya) I may be a pervert but I ain't no woman beater.

Omar - I ask that myself sometimes. Is the pain worth it? Stick to Madame Palm and her 5 lovely sisters.

Vivien · Post by **Vivien** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 9:32 am

Originally posted by Omar:
Why? Because women are stupid! That's why! (hmmm, was that a forum rules violation?)

Don't make me come over there. *now has a dangerous light in her eyes*

(And don't even get me started with Grunty, *sigh* I thought he'd been improving! *hugs him anyway*)

Do women REALLY want bad guys?? Come on people. Some do, some don't. I myself have always looked for a specific type of man, and it's not the bad guy type. The man who can fix my computer is the man for me.

Is it the woman's fault that she ends up with a bad guy? Yes. Are there extenuating circumstances, YES.

Two female friends and I (we've dubbed ourselves 'Charlies Angels because of the hair color) like to go out every now and then

Two of us are actively seeking men, specifically nice guys. When we go out, what type of man buys drinks, chats us up, squeezes in on the dance floor??

Usually he's got a girlfriend (But won't share this until AFTER he's been making out with Kara for half the night!

)

Or we've had the whole party boy, doesn't want to settle down type. But you know, he doesn't TELL a woman that right away, he's awfully charming at first...

The winner was the cross dressing man with a prison record at a halloween party...

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Xandax · Post by **Xandax** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 10:49 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy:
Xandax - Subtle? I just slipped it in.
<snip>

ROFL

Nice one

Aleldar · Post by **Aleldar** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 10:58 am

Originally posted by Vivien:
Don't make me come over there. *now has a dangerous light in her eyes*

(And don't even get me started with Grunty, *sigh* I thought he'd been improving! *hugs him anyway*)

Do women REALLY want bad guys?? Come on people. Some do, some don't. I myself have always looked for a specific type of man, and it's not the bad guy type. The man who can fix my computer is the man for me.

Is it the woman's fault that she ends up with a bad guy? Yes. Are there extenuating circumstances, YES.

Two female friends and I (we've dubbed ourselves 'Charlies Angels because of the hair color) like to go out every now and then Two of us are actively seeking men, specifically nice guys. When we go out, what type of man buys drinks, chats us up, squeezes in on the dance floor??

Usually he's got a girlfriend (But won't share this until AFTER he's been making out with Kara for half the night! )

Or we've had the whole party boy, doesn't want to settle down type. But you know, he doesn't TELL a woman that right away, he's awfully charming at first...

The winner was the cross dressing man with a prison record at a halloween party...

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Then why do you and your friends go out to clubs looking for a nice guy?

Vivien · Post by **Vivien** » Mon Dec 10, 2001 11:03 am

Originally posted by Aleldar:

Then why do you and your friends go out to clubs looking for a nice guy?

I don't understand your question? What are you trying to say? Clubs, cafe's, even bookstores, *shrug* we go to all sorts of places where there are men