Help with getting Crom Faeyr?

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:43 am

You have to kill Thaxll'ssillyia for the scroll of Crom Faeyr? Are you serious? How the fudge are you even meant to start off by killing that beast?!

I'm playing with my Beserker/Mage and Kensai/Thief party... But I don't think that's going to be enough! I REALLY WANT THAT HAMMER BADLY!

Their levels are 12-13, and 2 more levels 'till my Thief gets its Kensai skills back.

If you guys could give me anything, ANYTHING that will make this battle easier, now or later in the game, please do. This hammer is beast. I want it. >=D

Thanks guys.

QuenGalad · Post by **QuenGalad** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:00 am

You won't be able to make the hammer anyway untill you're back form a certain long journey-and-rescue-mission, i think you know what i mean, because a strenght belt you find during it is one of the ingredients. So no sense in tackling the dragon just now, i think. And you're right, your two chars, especially with inactive kensai class, have a pretty small chance of winning. So go with the story and come back for the dragon when you're ready. By then you'll take it to the cleaners, just keep the small black stone for future use.

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:22 am

I read this of a website...

There's always fake-talking them, if the dragon's not hostile (as can be done with Firkraag, the dragon in the Temple of Amaunator with the unpronounceable name, and Adalon - don't remember if the black dragon in Suldanessellar starts friendly or not). Fake-talking is cheap, but works.
How to fake-talk - pause and select your entire party. Have them "talk" to the non-hostile dragon, then "attack" it. Unpause. Let it run for a couple seconds as you and your friends attack the enemy (it's still not hostile). Pause. Talk. Attack. Unpause. Let it run for a couple seconds (you can't let the dragon talk to you or go hostile, or it's all over and you've got to finish it normally). Pause. Rinse. Repeat. Kill dragon. Loot.
This also works on Demogorgon in ToB. Various strategy guides say that fake-talk was fixed, but it's not.
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I guess I'll resort to that if it's way to hard for me to kill >.<

Edar Macilrille · Post by **Edar Macilrille** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:27 am

Chill young Jedi chill...
All will be possible in time.

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:57 am

Haha, okay okay I'll chill.

I'm wondering, how much hp does it have?
I've seen screenshots of Kensai/Thieves doing 160 damage, so that will help a fudge load:mischief:

RPGguy · Post by **RPGguy** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:09 am

There are all kinds of cheese to beat certain enemies. And mods/patches that eliminate cheese.

I guess I am kind of confused. You want to know where all the choice items are, so (presumably) you can get them earlier than you're supposed to. That's fine...but then what? Once you get the uber items, is your plan to stop cheating and truly enjoy your uber-powerful guys? Or continue with cheese until the end?

Because if you really want to, you can open up the CLUA console right now and give yourself a million gold, a billion XP and summon any item you want. Heck, give yourself 3 or 4 Crom Faeyrs.

Just search 'CLUA' and you'll find the tools you need to do whatever you want.

All I can say, is that if this is your first play of BG2:ToB, you are making a colossal mistake spoiling yourself in any regard. This game is iconic and there's only one chance to experience it for the first time. Also, there are very few games like this and even fewer that even compare to this one in terms of quality. Strongly advise to avoid walkthroughs and these forums until you are done.

But if you are having fun, then that is primary. I just will feel bad for you if you blow it.

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:18 am

Wait... I didn't say that I want to get them earlier than I'm supposed to, at the time I posted it I didn't know you had to go in to the Underdark to get one of the items. I don't intend to cheat when I play Baldur's Gate 2. And I never said that I wanted to get them earlier than I'm supposed to.
And I've played through SoA, just need to finish ToB, still having fun with SoA though.

RPGguy · Post by **RPGguy** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:06 am

Okay, my bad. Assumed this was your first time through SoA because you seemed surprised about not being able to get the final Crom Faeyr recipe component until after the Underdark.

Anyways, don't let me crash your buzz. Just want to see you (and everyone for that matter) get the max out of the first play though...experience it like I did.

wish I could go back in time

QuenGalad · Post by **QuenGalad** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:18 am

Hah! Don't we all? I've played BG2 for years and i'm still getting a kick out of it. Of course, mods mean a lot. But there's always something new to discover, even if it's a really tiny gem, and when you find something new on your approx. 25th playthrough, it's really rocks.

Back to Crom Faeyr, the only way to have it before Undardark is to cheat the belt in, and I'm glad to hear you won't do it. Cheating diminishes the fun greatly. And that's why there's virtually nothing for you to gain by rushing at Thaxll'ssillyia now, accept for an opportunity to do some irritated reloading.

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:56 pm

When I was in like, grade 4, when I first got this game, I had no idea what to do, so I just looked up cheats and stuff. Even then I didn't know what the hell to do. Then I started playing the game fully, and your right, if you do cheat, it takes the fun out of the game. Literally. No challenge at all. Also, is it hard to get the ingredients to get the Crom Faeyr apart from getting the scroll from the dragon?

And I never knew you needed to go through Underdark to get one of the ingredients. I guess the game would be far too easy with the Crom Faeyr early in the game.

Just remember, I've finished it once just with a full party, and I basically never heard of Cromwell until near the end of the game. That pissed me off.

**Loading Screen** Cromwell can create magical items, blah blah blah.
**Me** Are you f***ing serious? xD

Edar Macilrille · Post by **Edar Macilrille** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:05 am

It was...

Whether the other ingredients are difficult to obtain is a matter of perspective. Difficult compared to what? The fellow at the bottom of Watcher's Keep? Nah. Five goblins on the road? Yes indeed.

Ha ha ha, I will say no more, would spoil your fun.

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:50 am

Okay, **Edit** You Know Who,is just ridiculous.:speech:
But I guess I will have to find out for my self eh?

QuenGalad · Post by **QuenGalad** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:26 am

Well, I don't think it will be a big spoiler to say the scroll is the hardest one, combat-wise. The others vary, but the belt can be tough, too. You will have to run around quite a bit to collect them all, and do a number of side-quests.

I've cheated the hammer in once to have it before spellhold, and it turned the game into a thrill-less routine. Plus, Viconia got the majority of kills in the party, and I can't be having with that!

Edar Macilrille · Post by **Edar Macilrille** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:34 am

Kerosene wrote:Okay,
Spoiler
Demigorgon
is just ridiculous.:speech:
But I guess I will have to find out for my self eh?

That is a spoiler for those who has not tried WK yet ;-)

The Tactics version is worse, but the worst fight of all I faced was the Tactics special fights and Faldorn + Bodhi- both are just too cheesy to touch for anyone.

SCS II FTW.

RPGguy · Post by **RPGguy** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:06 pm

Ug, I can't believe you researched ahead to find out who lies at the bottom of Watcher's Keep. You just blew a classic moment in PC gaming!!!!

Kerosese man, I can't bear to see you do this to yourself haha!

QuenGalad · Post by **QuenGalad** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:52 pm

Uh... i don't really get how this is such a huge surprise and spoiler... I mean, knowing the guy's name is Fred or Gonzo or indeed You-know-who? What does it change?

Edar Macilrille · Post by **Edar Macilrille** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:59 pm

Your characters get hints underway, but roleplayingwise you are supposed to go "Oh noes! It is ...! We are doomed!".

That is why it is a minor spoiler. Would be worse to tell who does what sailing to and fro Brynnlaw, how Yoshi aids you in Spellhold, etc...

Still, spoilers are best avoided for people like our RPGGuy to not be warned in advance.

RPGguy · Post by **RPGguy** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:54 pm

QuenGalad wrote:Uh... i don't really get how this is such a huge surprise and spoiler... I mean, knowing the guy's name is Fred or Gonzo or indeed You-know-who? What does it change?

Is it possible to Google search that name without accidentally reading that he is also

Spoiler

a Demon Prince

? Not likely that he just got the name but an important description as well.

2 cents

Kerosene · Post by **Kerosene** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:14 am

RPGguy wrote:Kerosese man, I can't bear to see you do this to yourself haha!

It was kind of hard not to find out that... So many god damn forums talking about it I just had to see what it was about!

But I still get a kick out of the game. It doesn't matter even if, for example, I found out what happened at the end, and never played the game before, the game will still be enjoyable. But still, I guess that just gives a hint to other players, as in "OMG WTF IS THIS HE TALKS ABOUT" :laugh:

QuenGalad · Post by **QuenGalad** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:11 am

Ooh... I see what the problem is now. I'm near-completely ignorant of the d&d world, so the name means as much to me as Gonzo would. But if players know more of it, they can match the guy with something really dangerous and famous and get an additional kick out of slaughtering him, am i getting this right?