Unofficial Patch + ArchiveInvalidation Invalidated! + Francesco's.... Aargh!

LeoStarDragon1 · Post by **LeoStarDragon1** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:33 pm

Hello, Dragon Wench!

dragon wench wrote:*sigh* Thanks, it's edited now.. This is what happens when I'm multitasking

Yeah, something like that. Or maybe to use a slightly different analogy: it's like looking forward to a good meal in a restaurant and then, due to a last minute change of plans, having to prepare dinner at home instead. Now, my SO and I both like cooking most of the time, but that aside...
Or, something like that anyway.
Perhaps closer to the truth, it's like having to fix something that should have been made properly in the first place.

Heh! I just corrected a typo too!

(Changed "order" to "ordering".)

Oh, like getting a new car or something, and then learning it has been recalled.

But what I was trying to analog to, was that gathering ingrediants equals gathering the various mods. Some are for the basic cake/pizza mix, and that equals the basic game itself. While adding condiments to suit to taste, would be the sprinkles on the cake or the crushed red peppers on the pizza, which for the game, would be the mods that are more fun to install.

But then that's a bad analogy because one doesn't make the game to begin with. What would be a better one, would be that you took the basic recipe, or game in this case, and changed it in the baking process by adding the mods that you thought should be there to begin with. Then the more fun mods that you enjoy installing, would be the frosting, et cetera, on the cake!

Then eating = playing! I hope that makes better sense.

Well, that's it for me tonight I think, unless someone else replied. It's TV time, then sleep time after it.

LeoStarDragon1 · Post by **LeoStarDragon1** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:37 pm

Oh Wow!

fable wrote:The first thing to add is Wrye Bash. It can and will point out conflicts, allow you to easily reorder mods, and solves major inconsistencies. It's the first tool you need. There's a bit of a starting curve, but beyond that, you should be fine.

A link to Wrye Bash that actually works! Thank you very much! I created a desktop shortcut to it, to investigate tomorrow.

Here, have a bag of virtual Septims!

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:39 pm

LeoStarDragon1 wrote:A link to Wrye Bash that actually works! Thank you very much! I created a desktop shortcut to it, to investigate tomorrow.

Here, have bag of virtual Septims!

Why, thank you! You may have this chainmail made of Varla stones, designed in rapt imitation of Liberace's identical coat! Who knew he was actually a highly placed necromancer? Well, other than the way he did sort of look like a lich. Other than that.

If you have any questions about Wrye Bash, feel free to ask. It can seem a bit intimidating at first, because there's no standard subject indexing.

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:41 pm

fable wrote:Why, thank you! You may have this chainmail made of Varla stones, designed in rapt imitation of Liberace's identical coat! Who knew he was actually a highly placed necromancer? Well, other than the way he did sort of look like a lich. Other than that.

ROFL!!! Too bad we no longer seem to be doing GB awards because I'd surely be nominating that for one of the funniest things said

So... hmm... perhaps Elvis is his side kick? They could inhabit one of the more isolated Ayleid ruins and Lich Elvis could croon "Are you lonesome tonight?"

Erm... more on topic... Fable, I don't suppose you've ever considered writing a "Dummies Guide to Wrye Bash" have you?

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:03 pm

dragon wench wrote:ROFL!!! Too bad we no longer seem to be doing GB awards because I'd surely be nominating that for one of the funniest things said
So... hmm... perhaps Elvis is his side kick? They could inhabit one of the more isolated Ayleid ruins and Lich Elvis could croon "Are you lonesome tonight?"

If you made that suggestion up on in the ES forums, you could probably find a modder who would give Elvis' face to a lich.

Well, at least until the lich rejected it. Even the undead have standards.

Erm... more on topic... Fable, I don't suppose you've ever considered writing a "Dummies Guide to Wrye Bash" have you?

I keep telling people: I can understand it, so it isn't difficult.

It's just a matter of searching on it for exactly what you want to know, rather than reading through the whole thing. Focus on Bashed Patch, Order, Color, Rebuild--things like that really make it pretty easy. Besides, I think Wrye would object to that sort of thing without his permission, and I'm willing to bet he wouldn't give it. He's probably not the kind of tech god you want to anger.

DesR85 · Post by **DesR85** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:54 pm

fable wrote:To be honest, I've never had any problems installing mods in Morrowind or Oblivion. It's exactly the same procedure: you open the mod archive, then drop the files as a group in place. So if the archive contains files whose top level is Data, then you drop them in the Oblivion directory, where they'll "overwrite" the existing Oblivion/Data subdirectory. -Because they actually won't overwrite; they'll just add to or replace such entries as are needed to make the mod work.

Oblivion omods are even easier. Assuming you have the Oblivion Mod Manager (OBMM) installed, you just click Create. From the screen that pops up, you select Add Archive, and navigate to the archive containing the omod. You don't even have to open it--you just point OBMM at it. It takes a few seconds to analyze the archive, and then asks if you want the Omod installed. Once you tell it yes, the next step is to Create Omod, then Activate. That's it. You don't have to move a single file.

Tedious? Absolutely. There are far better ways to spend one's time. But the mods add so much to both games, and the procedures are rote.

I forgot to mention that I have no problems at installing the mods. I know how to use them. It's just that installing the number of mods and a few large ones is time consuming and tiresome. The same can be said of Resident Evil 4 thanks to it being a crappy PC port. STALKER not so much, but still cumbersome nonetheless.

LeoStarDragon1 · Post by **LeoStarDragon1** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:18 am

Continued!

To Fable! Thanks! Hm. Looks fabulous, but movement is difficult. Plus people run up to me wanting me to recharge their stuff for them. Oh, wait! Ron says, "It's too gay! Take it off!" I say, "Oh, that's right! He was a homosexual male and a happy one at that." So I take it off and wonder why I put it on in the first place. Then Ron steals it and..... Where did he go?

To Fable & Dragon Wench! What is it with you Brits!? In this household, we are fans of Elvis Presley (not Elvis Costello), John Wayne, Will Rogers, and other American icons.

(I have some British icons too, like Samantha Fox, and too many others to list here.)

dragon wench · Post by **dragon wench** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:27 am

@LSD,
ROFL!!! So what is it that makes you think both Fable and I are British?

In fact, I am Canadian, though my father is British so I do hold UK citizenship as well. Mostly though, I identify myself as a Canuck.
As to Fable's domicile... I'll let him answer that for himself...

@Fable,
Heh! It would almost be worth getting an account at the ES forums just for that :laugh:
Yeah... good point Wrye doesn't strike me as somebody whose wrath you'd want to invoke...

I'll try looking at Wrye Bash again following your use suggestions.

LeoStarDragon1 · Post by **LeoStarDragon1** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:48 pm

Greetings, Dragon Wench!

@LSD,
ROFL!!! So what is it that makes you think both Fable and I are British?
In fact, I am Canadian, though my father is British so I do hold UK citizenship as well. Mostly though, I identify myself as a Canuck.
As to Fable's domicile... I'll let him answer that for himself...

Well, when I wrote that I was thinking of my e-friend Paul from Doncaster, and what he wrote about Elvis Presley was almost what Fable and you wrote, so I thought it must be a Brit trait. :laugh:

Hm. I watch "The Red Green Show" and "How I Met Your Mother". You don't come across as being like the guys in the former. More like the character of "Robin" from the latter, but with a twist I guess.

Anyway, as for Wrye Bash, I didn't get to it today. My brother came up for a visit. We just got back from seeing "The Watchmen". We guys got the blue girl in the X-Men movies. Now you gals get the blue man in this movie! Rachel Ray and other's have been going on and on about how much time he's "naked" on screen, even though he's actually nude. In contrast, oddly enough they talk about the scimpy ladies outfits. Hm. Yeah, sure, for the 1940's and the 1980's!

Well, once I'm done here, I hope to get to experiment with Wrye Bashe.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:48 pm

LeoStarDragon1 wrote:Well, when I wrote that I was thinking of my e-friend Paul from Doncaster, and what he wrote about Elvis Presley was almost what Fable and you wrote, so I thought it must be a Brit trait. :laugh:

I'm USian, from a number of places that have foolishly offered safe haven to my iniquitous presence over the last 57 years. Favorite British radio comedy: Jeremy Hardy Speaks to the Nation. Favorite USian radio comedy: The Fred Allen Show.

Well, once I'm done here, I hope to get to experiment with Wrye Bashe.

Remember to get our your Babylonian Decoder Ring, first!

LeoStarDragon1 · Post by **LeoStarDragon1** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:45 pm

The Fabled Fable!

fable wrote:I'm USian, from a number of places that have foolishly offered safe haven to my iniquitous presence over the last 57 years. Favorite British radio comedy: Jeremy Hardy Speaks to the Nation. Favorite USian radio comedy: The Fred Allen Show.

Remember to get our your Babylonian Decoder Ring, first!

Does "USian" = "U.S. Asian"? If so, would it be South Korean? (I was born in Seoul as Mom was a South Korean.)

Anyway, I installed the Python software, and then it helped me install the Wrye Bash Cannonball. Oh, wait, that's a train named "Wabash" I think! Would that be the Babylonian Decoder Ring? The Python software that is.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:51 pm

LeoStarDragon1 wrote:Does "USian" = "U.S. Asian"? If so, would it be South Korean? (I was born in Seoul as Mom was a South Korean.)

No, just from the US. After all, Bolivians, Canadians, and Falkland Islanders are from America. I've just gotten into the habit over the years of calling myself a USian.

Anyway, I installed the Python software, and then it helped me install the Wrye Bash Cannonball. Oh, wait, that's a train named "Wabash" I think! Would that be the Babylonian Decoder Ring? The Python software that is.

The real secret to Wrye is just to do searches on what you need at that moment from his help html site. If you do that, not only will you find what you need, but your hair will grow thicker, your general health will improve, and people will offer you money as you pass by them on the street. It's truly a wonderful product, and one of the last four statements is absolutely accurate!

LeoStarDragon1 · Post by **LeoStarDragon1** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:22 am

Fable the Fabulous!

No, just from the US. After all, Bolivians, Canadians, and Falkland Islanders are from America. I've just gotten into the habit over the years of calling myself a USian.

Heheh! Reminds me of Dad, somewhat. He uses "U.S. Citizen" rather than "American", I think because he feels "American" requires further clarification as in, "Do you mean, 'North American', 'Central American', 'South American', 'Native-American', 'Franco-American', 'American Airlines', 'Air America', or 'Born in the U.S. of A American'?"

I tried to use 'Native-American' as all-inclusive, until I met a girl from Mexico at a "McDonald's" in Norman, who considered herself to be, "Native-Mexican", as a reference to her so-called "Indian" status down there, where over 95% of Mexicans are of "Indian" descent, rather than Spanish, or something close to that figure.

Okay, in honor of having seen "Slumdog Millionaire" yesterday!

Game Show Host: Okay, Slumdog! For the grand prize of Twenty-Million Rupees! 'USian' refers to: A: Package delivery company. B: Heavy Metal rock music band. C: A comic strip super-hero. Or D:Contraction of 'U.S. Citizen'. You have twenty seconds. Good luck!

Slumdog: "I'd like to 'phone a friend!"

G.S.H.: "Who is your friend?"

Slumdog: "Fable! He's a moderator at my forum!"

G.S.H.: "Good for both of you! Ah, it is ringing!"

Telephone Voice: "Hello! I know who you are! You're in my house! Stay away from me! I'm ready for you! I've got an aerosol can and a cigarette lighter! I'll send you to Hell if you don't leave my house!"

Slumdog: "Fable? It's me, Slumdog, not your stalker! I need help! I'm on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire?' Now listen! 'USian' refers to, A: Package delivery company. B: Heavy Metal rock music band. C: A comic strip super-hero. Or D: Contraction of 'U.S. Citizen'. Which is it, Fable?"

Fable: "Oh, hi Slumdog! How are you? I've...."

Stalker: "You're wasting his valuable limited time! Just answer the question!"

Fable: "....decided the answer is 'D'! Yes! That's right!"

CLICK!

Slumdog! "The answer is 'D'! That's my final answer!"

G.S.H.: "Computer guy, lock in his answer! Well, that's all the time we have for today! Tune in tomorrow to see if our slumdog wins or looses!"

* * *

The real secret to Wrye is just to do searches on what you need at that moment from his help html site. If you do that, not only will you find what you need, but your hair will grow thicker, your general health will improve, and people will offer you money as you pass by them on the street. It's truly a wonderful product, and one of the last four statements is absolutely accurate!

It also tastes better toasted!

Yum! Patty Melts!

But anyway, I saw that at the site. I downloaded one mod from there. The one about sleeping nude. I hope to try it today.

Hey, my brother handed me $5.00! But we were in a movie theater though.