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Why do some people here in our august forum consider Gifted to be "broken?"

Because it adds way more than it takes. All other quirks are reasonably balanced, but not so Gifted.

• You trade skill points for stat points, but since stats make up part of your skill ratings, your skills immediately go back up a little already.
• Imagine putting all those extra points into Intelligence... You'd get such a boatload of bonus skill points that you'd reach a break-even point before you are well underway.
• Stat points kick more butt than skill points.
• You don't need every skill (nobody needs three different weapon skills, for example). You do need every Stat. Some more than others, depending on your character theme, but all of them matter.
• You get loads of skill points to distribute each time you level up. More than enough for the skills you actually care for, so who cares they start out a little lower? Not so with Stat points; they're hard to come by.

When generating a character, I'd choose Gifted without even thinking about it, then I was in for a hard time choosing the second quirk.

Well - that might show it is overpowered - but that is not broken

I always took gifted - thoese +1 stats are just to sweat to give up

I see how Gifted could be considered quite overpowered. Thanks.

Heh, I've always disliked gifted. I rather take those 5 extra skillpoints per level and drop my endurance or so... I mean... there is always armor.

I guess thats depends abit on how you play, personally I dislike most of the NPCs in fallout so if im going to do as many things in the game I can I need to be good in alot of skills. wich in my case usally means 9-10 int and not gifted.

Yes, the stat requirements for the perks are the worst part, but its not impossible to put it all together with some planning...

In Fallout anyway, I always choose Gifted and Fast Shot - the fact that it's broken to include all weapons means that you can get 1AP shots with the Super Sledgehammer, for example, which basically breaks the game difficulty-wise. What fun

In Fallout 2, even with gifted and fast shot, I had a helluva time with the end baddy. He's tough as a mountain.

Didn't you use the gun turrets against him?

Have never had any problems with Horrigan without using the Turrents with my sharpshooter chars
Just aimed shots at the eyes and he would crumble as cheesecake

Originally posted by Krusader
Didn't you use the gun turrets against him?

Yes....even had the Enclave squad going at him. But the trouble only came in my first game when I was rather pathetic at choosing and using "the right" things. The next time through was a piece of cake

Gifted should get an exp penalty IMHO, with or without the skill penalties. Perk-wise, it will be fairly balanced as gifted players will get some of the better perks, but get less and can't get the higher level perks.

Horrigan isn't that hard unless your character uses heavy weapons. I swear, other than chunking groups of low level random encounters, those big guns are useless in FO2. That pyromaniac perk is no help either. How can a direct hit from a rocket hit knock someone down only to have him get right back up??

Seriously though, as long as you have the turrets on your side, all you have to do is stay alive long enough for the turrets to land a few of those whopping 100+ damage critical hits they tend to do.

Um....isn't the bozar the most effective weapon against Horrigan?

Originally posted by The Z
Um....isn't the bozar the most effective weapon against Horrigan?

That depends severly on your character.
As stated above I didn't even have to use the turrents to wack him good.
Pulse Rifle all the way for me and he only hit me for minor damage and didn't get many shots of at me.

So if you're proficient in energy weapons and sharpshooting, Horrigan's easy? Whoa. That's new info to me I've got to learn how to 'not use burst weapons only'.

Ah, bozar. I don't quite remember using that, seeing as how I haven't played the game in a while. Probably what happened was I forgot to get it that game as I was in a rush to finish it so I could start playing BGII:TOB. Anyways, from what I can recall, most burst weapons don't work well against Horrigan and his power armoured goons, something to do with damage threshold I think. Oh wait, or am I confusing them with the robots from Tactics? Anyhoo, gauss/pulse rifle w/ targetted shots and a really good crit chance (finesse trait, sniper perk, high luck) usually works for me, or gauss/pulse pistol w/fast shot trait and increased rate of fire perk.