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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:11 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>So you have a varied wardrobe then? :D </STRONG>
Yes, but my pink speedo is my fav. :D

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:12 am
by rapier
Originally posted by Xandax:
<STRONG>Yeah - just wait until Echelon IV scans this board - then we'll all have MIB at our doors ;) </STRONG>

Yeah, Helios...great game, DX...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:12 am
by fable
Originally posted by Weasel:
<STRONG>Yes, but my pink speedo is my fav. :D </STRONG>
Blinded again! :mad: :p

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:18 am
by Minerva
Originally posted by Weasel:
<STRONG>Yes, but my pink speedo is my fav. :D </STRONG>
Pink! :eek:

Err, how many speedoes do you have, Weasel? It seems you are always wearing nothing but speedo... :o

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:28 am
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Minerva:
<STRONG>You say you didn't mean to avoid flame or warning, and I believe you, and I also believe you love language. But, I disagree with "I used it because it is in my vocaburary and it was quicker". This is quite offensive comment even if you don't think so. I am more offended by your comments like these than your original post, actually.</STRONG>
:( :( :( :( :( :( :confused: :confused:

Now I'm not offended. I'm just a bit confused and curious. I am curious how that is offensive? When speaking/typing, you choose the words that you feel best state the point you're trying to get across. I felt that "kisama" was the best word for that purpose because it compacted my entire feelings on the type of people I was describing into one word. Have you ever heard "brevity is the key to communication"? Even those who don't know Japanese would be able to get the basic meaning of the word from the context, which was my intent.

I respect Japanese language above all others. I have the least respect for American English, Deutsch, and Espanol. The only language I would be disrespectful to in my usage is American English. To assume someone is being desrespectful when that is not necessarily the case is the same as "guilty until proven innocent," though there appears to be no "until proven innocent" part. If what I have now said offends you, think over. Being offended by this likely means it's true.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:31 am
by rapier
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG> I have the least respect for American English, Deutsch, and Espanol. </STRONG>
??
The least respect?
Whaddya mean???

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:38 am
by Yshania
Posted by SS -

Even those who don't know Japanese would be able to get the basic meaning of the word from the context
Well personally speaking I didn't. It could have meant people for all I knew. It is not an aggressive or offensive looking word. So I was none the wiser and was only interested enough to find a translation following the uproar. :)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:42 am
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by rapier:
<STRONG>??
The least respect?
Whaddya mean???</STRONG>
I respect ALL languages. My 3 least favorite are American English, Deutsch, and Espanol; thus I have the least amount of respect, though there is still respect there. Don't take it personally, rapier. Though your language is in there, so is the native language of the country I live in. Though I know a bit of deutsch and espanol, they are not languages I desire to learn and, imo, are not as elegant as other langauges, such as Japanese and français.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:44 am
by rapier
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>I respect ALL languages. My 3 least favorite are American English, Deutsch, and Espanol; thus I have the least amount of respect, though there is still respect there. Don't take it personally, rapier. Though your language is in there, so is the native language of the country I live in. Though I know a bit of deutsch and espanol, they are not languages I desire to learn and, imo, are not as elegant as other langauges, such as Japanese and français.</STRONG>
No no, I don't take it personally, I agree that German is not very elegant...just wondered...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:46 am
by Fezek
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG> :( :( :( :( :( :( :confused: :confused:

Now I'm not offended. I'm just a bit confused and curious. I am curious how that is offensive? When speaking/typing, you choose the words that you feel best state the point you're trying to get across. I felt that "kisama" was the best word for that purpose because it compacted my entire feelings on the type of people I was describing into one word. Have you ever heard "brevity is the key to communication"? Even those who don't know Japanese would be able to get the basic meaning of the word from the context, which was my intent.

I respect Japanese language above all others. I have the least respect for American English, Deutsch, and Espanol. The only language I would be disrespectful to in my usage is American English. .</STRONG>
Interesting you should say this because two of the biggest influences on modern Japanese are German and American English.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:49 am
by fable
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>I respect ALL languages. My 3 least favorite are American English, Deutsch, and Espanol; thus I have the least amount of respect, though there is still respect there. Don't take it personally, rapier. Though your language is in there, so is the native language of the country I live in. Though I know a bit of deutsch and espanol, they are not languages I desire to learn and, imo, are not as elegant as other langauges, such as Japanese and français.</STRONG>
Perhaps I misunderstand the way you are using "inelegant." Certainly, the words of the language are consonantly heavy; they sputter, they don't flow (like Italian) or roll (like Finnish or Russian) or strut (like Castillian Spanish). But English is capable of great beauty in the right hands. It lacks rhymes, but it has a wealth of meters and rhythms. Common usage is dull for any language, but if you dive into the literature, you'll find much that is clear as a cold spring pool, or vivid as a forest after a good rain.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:51 am
by Yshania
Actually I like the German language. And German beer. I just wish the Germans would learn how to queue at a ski lift ;) :D j/k

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:51 am
by rapier
The main reason no one likes German is probably coz everyone thinks all Germans speak, act and dress like Bavarians... :: shudders :: Uhhh...Bavarians...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:53 am
by rapier
Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>Actually I like the German language. And German beer. I just wish the Germans would learn how to queue at a ski lift ;) :D j/k</STRONG>
Bah, queues(sp?...what a weird word...) are for people too weak to fight their way to the top...you should see our school cantine...it's like a football match...

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:55 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>Perhaps I misunderstand the way you are using "inelegant." Certainly, the words of the language are consonantly heavy; they sputter, they don't flow (like Italian) or roll (like Finnish or Russian) or strut (like Castillian Spanish). But English is capable of great beauty in the right hands. It lacks rhymes, but it has a wealth of meters and rhythms. Common usage is dull for any language, but if you dive into the literature, you'll find much that is clear as a cold spring pool, or vivid as a forest after a good rain.</STRONG>
Just as long as your not reading Shakespeare :p :p :rolleyes:

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 11:58 am
by Yshania
@Rapier - In 1990 I went to the Roger Waters concert at the Potzdamer Platz. We stayed in Hanover and went by bus to Berlin the next morning. The difference between the East and West was phenominal.

The West with it's forests and picturesque villages, then moving into the East which was so regimented. Really wide roads (to allow room for military vehicles etc).

The most noticable thing to me though was the people. We got lost trying to find our way back to Checkpoint Charlie and asked a military policeman for directions. He did not understand a word of English, never mind speak it. You know, they had had no real reason to learn it.

With my (very!) limited German I tried again. I got the directions (though he didn't speak slowly for me to understand :D )

Ah well. A great weekend. :D

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:00 pm
by fable
Originally posted by rapier:
<STRONG>The main reason no one likes German is probably coz everyone thinks all Germans speak, act and dress like Bavarians... :: shudders :: Uhhh...Bavarians...</STRONG>
Well, yeah. Even during the Renaissance, the Italians, French and Germans were poking fun at the Bavarians, and calling 'em "German."

I remember a line of Frederick II of Prussia (who was sometimes called Frederick the Great, usually by his pals): "I speak Spanish to my lovers, French at my court, English to my servants and German to my horses." :rolleyes: ;)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:01 pm
by Fezek
Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>Actually I like the German language. And German beer. I just wish the Germans would learn how to queue at a ski lift ;) :D j/k</STRONG>
I just wish the Germans learned how to play bad football. Then the (Fill in country name here) would do well. :(

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:02 pm
by Yshania
Posted by Rapier -

it's like a football match...
Now would that be an English or a German football match ;)

BTW - see you on the 1st September! :D

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2001 12:09 pm
by rapier
Bavaria should become independent...

@Yshania: There you see it, we Germans are stupid and unfriendly...don't visit us! ;)

American, of course, else it would be called "soccer", eh?

@fable: :: sighs :: Well, what kind of German did he speak while talking to his horses? Bavarian, most Middle- or Northern(like me)Germans don't understand a word of it...

@Fezek: If Germans would actually play football, it would be VERY bad, I assure you...