Favorite video games of all time

fable · Post by **fable** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:04 pm

I mentioned the devs at Quicksilver (who are doing Masters of Orion III) showing enthusiasm two years ago for devving Master of Magic II. I found an official statement by them recently in one of their faqs about this:

"Will there be a sequel to the Master of Magic series?

"Not exactly. One does not necessarly FOLLOW the other. However, success with MOO3 makes is MORE LIKELY for their to me a Master of Magic II ( because if MOO3 is a hit, it will demonstrate that the strategy game genre should continue to besupported ), and more likelky to be done by Quicksilver ( because if MOO3 is a hit, Infogrames will know we can "deliver the goods" and should be worthy of developing MOM2 )."

Thought I'd pass that along.

Tybaltus · Post by **Tybaltus** » Tue Nov 19, 2002 6:45 pm

Originally posted by garazdawi
Just my five cents if someone cares

I agree in that aspect, but there are a number of things that make me more attracted to Civ III rather then Civ II...
1) Individual units given to specific civilizations (example-immortals for Persia)
2) The armies/leaders
3) Cultural influence
4) Graphics
5) Golden Ages
6) The way the advisors are set up
7) Communication/Diplomacy leader graphics
8) The way you can agree to certain terms with leaders via diplomacy is much better
9) The way combat is delivered
10) The fact that as you go through a different age, graphics change with leaders and units

The reason why I dont hate what Fable hates is because:
1) I do it myself to get revenge.

2) Cultural influence usually swallows their city for you, and you get a free city

Things in addition to Garaz's statements what made Civ II better:
1) It had the Carthaginians
2) Multiplayer
3) The saves were always reliable. Sometimes Civ III really bugs out on my computer, and saved files cannot be loaded ever again because sometimes theres an error, which is really annoying. Sometimes I have to start all over again because the saves are faulty...

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Wed Nov 20, 2002 10:18 am

Originally posted by Tybaltus
6) The way the advisors are set up

I agree with u on everything except thi spoint. It took me much less time to get used to the way the advisors worked in CIV III then in CIV II. Mostly because advisors were seperate from the ruling of the country/kingdom/whatever that u rule in. Thsi making ME feel as if I was the sole ruler of this culture. I've always like being a complete diktator and no wonder I was mostly a communist when playing civ II

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 4:02 am

My favorite game of all time is no doubt Diablo II. After waiting for it for about three years, I hyperventilated when I opened the package. I've been plaing it for several thousand hours, which is the most that I've been playing a game. BGII is also fun, haven't tried the first one. Morrowind is also really good even though it runs REALLY slow.

/-\lastor · Post by **/-\lastor** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 4:03 pm

- Red Alert 1, simply the best RTS ever
- Final Fantasy 7, just got it and loving it to the max
- Donkey Kong (on the snes), had the whole series but the first one was simply the best
- CounterStrike, the best FPS ever
- Super Smash Bros, I've had it for 5 or 6 years and I still enjoy it

I'm afraid to say it, but I think that the first Pokemon games were quite, if not very, good. I hated the series, public craze and merch but Pokemon Red and Blue had such a good gameplay.

Tybaltus · Post by **Tybaltus** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 4:06 pm

Originally posted by garazdawi
I agree with u on everything except thi spoint. It took me much less time to get used to the way the advisors worked in CIV III then in CIV II. Mostly because advisors were seperate from the ruling of the country/kingdom/whatever that u rule in. Thsi making ME feel as if I was the sole ruler of this culture. I've always like being a complete diktator and no wonder I was mostly a communist when playing civ II

Not the city governors...I hate the city govorners...I just over-ride their choice 9/10 times.

Its the advisors...they may give advice, but you have complete control over their actions...

fable · Post by **fable** » Thu Nov 21, 2002 4:09 pm

Originally posted by Tybaltus
Not the city governors...I hate the city govorners...I just over-ride their choice 9/10 times. Its the advisors...they may give advice, but you have complete control over their actions...

I wish their advice was a little more reliable, though. My cultural advisor's expression looked like he'd been scheduled for a colonoscopy, though I won that game on the next turn.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 5:49 am

Originally posted by Tamerlane
Deus Ex for the amazing story which you actually affected. Sure BG said you could alter it, but it didn't have the freedom like that found within that wonderful game. And all those cool modifications, cyborgs rule

Civ3, never really had my judgement clouded as I did in Civ3. Traitorous Persian scum, after all I did for them. Get the proper world map, and starting locations mod and it starts to become chillingly realistic.

Zelda (SNES) Such a great game and incredibly addictive. Was typically my baptism of fire in to the RPG world.

I couldn't have said this better myself.
That's also my top list.
Only I would like to add
- Final Fantasy X (PS2) Great story! Realy great!!!
- The Simcity series
- Dune II (the start of a great genre)

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 6:01 am

About Civ III

I realy like the game,
but there are a few things I don't realy like.
1: The recource system has it's up's and downs I usuaaly don't expand very large, so i don't have acces to all the recources, and I hate that, that I have to trade Iron cause it isn't close to any of my city's (there should be more recourses on the map) but on the other hand, that makes it fun.
2: There is to much corruption at the end. When you have a large civ, some city's experience huge amounts of corruption when their to far from you're capitol, i had city's with a production of 20 (or more) but 19 got lost to corruption!
3: No fundamentalism: I realy mis this goverment type
4: Global warming to soon: I wait with building factory's untill i have recycling centre, and the enemy's aren't even close to building a factory, and still I get global warming!! I hate this!

I anyone has some corruption advice it would be welcome

fable · Post by **fable** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 9:44 am

It looks like Master of Orion III is due to turn gold today. Shipping date is December 4th. I'm pretty excited about it, and just started a MOO II game last night to get back in the spirit of things. From what I've heard, while a lot of features have been tweaked, the AI is much, much better.

Deus Ex: innovative game, very well done, but then I'm not surprised. Warren Spector, the project director, was always one of the most creative and affable talents at Origin Systems, which put him in direct conflict with Richard Garriott. Mixing game genres to come up with something new is what he likes to do--even when (as in this title) he doesn't like the genres, himself.

That's also why I like King of Dragon Pass. It mixes RPG stats and philosophy with strategy game micromanagement of a barbarian empire, to produce something I've seen or played before.

Tybaltus · Post by **Tybaltus** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:40 am

Re: About Civ III

Originally posted by Stilgar
I realy like the game,
but there are a few things I don't realy like.
1: The recource system has it's up's and downs I usuaaly don't expand very large, so i don't have acces to all the recources, and I hate that, that I have to trade Iron cause it isn't close to any of my city's (there should be more recourses on the map) but on the other hand, that makes it fun.
2: There is to much corruption at the end. When you have a large civ, some city's experience huge amounts of corruption when their to far from you're capitol, i had city's with a production of 20 (or more) but 19 got lost to corruption!
3: No fundamentalism: I realy mis this goverment type
4: Global warming to soon: I wait with building factory's untill i have recycling centre, and the enemy's aren't even close to building a factory, and still I get global warming!! I hate this!

I anyone has some corruption advice it would be welcome

I like the resource system because it makes sense. I mean if you look at the geography of the word, youll notice that there is no way that an ample amount of different resources can be found in the same area. If youre small, youve got to trade, in reality and in the game.

And fundamentalism....I thought it was better that it wasnt included...it was very strange the way it worked, so it was a little out there for me.

I dont suffer from global warming that much...maybe because I dont really build factories until all my workers have nothing to do except de-pollutinate...but most of my pollution comes from over population...I always like big cities.

As far as corruption, I agree. The only solution I have found-Communism. It makes all the cities have equal corruption, for the most part...if its really far away from the capital, then it will have a bit more corruption...but thats it. Communism is ok in Civ III, but was actually the way to go in Civ II. I think the best government all together in Civ III is Monarchy...Monarchy was also slightly favorable in Civ II. As far as Civ I....Despotism all the way baby!

garazdawi · Post by **garazdawi** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 12:43 pm

Re: About Civ III

Originally posted by Stilgar
2: There is to much corruption at the end. When you have a large civ, some city's experience huge amounts of corruption when their to far from you're capitol, i had city's with a production of 20 (or more) but 19 got lost to corruption!

Build a court of law and a poloice station in EVERY city u have. If one town is left out curruption will fourish in ur kingdom. I have found that if every town has its own set of these structures and all the woders that decrease corruption, then the amount of corruption will decrease. Also making a fake capital in any other colonies u have that are far away from ur own capital might prove fruitful. U wont get a 95% corruption anyway.

EMINEM · Post by **EMINEM** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 4:51 pm

1. Planescape (sentimental favorite)
2. Halo (the reason I got the X-Box)
3. BG2

ThorinOakensfield · Post by **ThorinOakensfield** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 5:07 pm

Seems like it is most people have chosen one or more of the following games:

Civ 2/3
Half-Life
BG series
FF series (the only one of the 4 I don't like that much)

Civ 2 was really good. Civ 3 is good too, but I think there was a lot of expectations and the graphics aren't that good considering it came out in 2001, not the mid- 90's. Yes, strategy games usually don't have great graphics and most people don't care, but Civ 3 could have definetely had some more movie scenes, like when you win by domination. All its says is "you have won by ______". Only rewarding one is the spaceship win. In other areas it is very similar to Civ 2. I like most of the added feautres.

Overall Civ 3 is better than Civ 2, but not by as much as it should be since it came out 5 years later.

Tybaltus · Post by **Tybaltus** » Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:06 pm

I concur

Originally posted by ThorinOakensfield
Civ 2 was really good. Civ 3 is good too, but I think there was a lot of expectations and the graphics aren't that good considering it came out in 2001, not the mid- 90's. Yes, strategy games usually don't have great graphics and most people don't care, but Civ 3 could have definetely had some more movie scenes, like when you win by domination. All its says is "you have won by ______". Only rewarding one is the spaceship win. In other areas it is very similar to Civ 2. I like most of the added feautres.

Overall Civ 3 is better than Civ 2, but not by as much as it should be since it came out 5 years later.

I can agree to that, yes. I feel you are right about the cinematics, but I think Im going to pull out a few cliches.

The rewarding part should be playing the game not the final movie.

OK. Sorry.

Ill shut up now.

Baldursgate Fan · Post by **Baldursgate Fan** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 12:53 am

Empire Earth, anyone?

I prefer Civ 2 to Civ 3 myself, the thing is, Empire Earth is one of my favourite games, (BG2, Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Planescape being the others). Has anyone here played EE?

I have only glanced through the posts in this thread, so my apologies in advance if I have missed something.

Cheers.