soa moral questions.. rant

Littiz · Post by **Littiz** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:22 am

@gnomethingy, you *are* evil

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:16 pm

gnomethingy,

You are disgustingly evil!

Snoop Dogg · Post by **Snoop Dogg** » Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:14 pm

theres nothing disgusting about evil

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 1:04 am

What about the image of people being cut into little pieces, Snoop Dogg?

gnomethingy · Post by **gnomethingy** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 4:02 am

The messure of evil isnt how peices you cut somone into...

Its how many of said peices you eat afterwards...

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 5:16 am

So, I was right. Thank you for proving my point.

Cheers

Littiz · Post by **Littiz** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:22 am

Don't worry Aubrey, they're only trying to provoke us.
It's just a pose, a pretended role.
Read my new first signature, to know what I think about
this....

(No offence meant, just trying to put people on the right
path!

)

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 1:14 pm

Thanks, Littiz. It always feels nice when you are among friends.

Please, don't tell me that your signature was exclusively made for gnomethingy!

Cheers

Jaesha · Post by **Jaesha** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 2:38 pm

Leave evil at home with your little brother where it belongs

, chaotic neutral is everything!

@Aubrey, Littiz: Give ´em hell!

Snoop Dogg · Post by **Snoop Dogg** » Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:01 pm

@jaesha

wouldnt aulbrey and littiz prefer to give people some nicer place than hell given they are such goody two shoes and could never maim a peasant if their life depended on it?

muhaha... i agree with gnomethingy - evil rox

Littiz · Post by **Littiz** » Thu Aug 01, 2002 2:00 am

Please, don't tell me that your signature was exclusively made for gnomethingy!

It would have been a more fitting quote, then
(which isn't the case...

)
But my quotes are always about inner strenght
and self-confidence, best to be combined with the pursue
-never entirely successful- of virtue..
You see how evil ones (true or pretended..) are the
real weak in my book

@Snoop Dogg: uncorrect, I would put you all in hell and
then I would pity you for your sufferings

Nobody's perfect

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Thu Aug 01, 2002 5:26 am

Littiz might be a Neutral Good but I'm Chaotic Good.

So, if it was up to me, I would put you in hell, and then watching your suffering emotionless.

Cheers

gnomethingy · Post by **gnomethingy** » Thu Aug 01, 2002 7:20 am

Good work for immaterial gains, Evil work for material gain.. The only immaterial thing truly evil people desire is power

The villain mentality of risking all to gain all, I love...

Btw.. Yes, Cns rock too

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Thu Aug 01, 2002 7:38 am

Originally posted by gnomethingy
Good work for immaterial gains, Evil work for material gain.. The only immaterial thing truly evil people desire is power

This is far to simplified IMO. What about knowledge, for example? Or eternal life?

Littiz · Post by **Littiz** » Thu Aug 01, 2002 3:15 pm

He who acts good for receiving eternal life or something in
exchange is the most selfish and evil planner of all!!

Ironically I have to agree with gnomethingy, True Goodness
*should be* really "pointless"

Aubrey · Post by **Aubrey** » Thu Aug 01, 2002 3:48 pm

...plus, good cannot exist without evil.

Cheers

gnomethingy · Post by **gnomethingy** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:47 am

This is right... Heros dont fight the Dragon becouse of his tresure, they fight him becouse he is doing something bad and needs to be stoped (Whatever that may be)

Evil has more perspectives than good, becouse virtue, purity selflesness and other such virtues are simplistic yet uninterpretive. And they often work in fold.

Whereas the evil have many choices. Kill the dragon for his gold? for fun? who cares, why not.. Maybe work for him to earn money, maybe (Only for the reall evil badass) Conscript him to your couse.... Maybe leave him, to raze the local town and stir up trouble so you dont have to waste your energy doing it..

Evil is *Fun* Evil is flippant and not wholly binding, the most phycotic villain can be merciful, if he so chooses.. Perhaps to sway somone to his couse ? Parhaps it just suits him at the time.

*Good* Decisions are driven by need and morality
"Its wrong that you burried the guy alive, suffer the consequences"
"This guy is going to kill me, I need to kill him first.. I dont want to but I must"

*Evil* Decisions are driven by Ego and wants
"Lame dragon, givin me gypo.. Ill nail his head to the floor!"
"I bet theres mad booty in yonder troll mound, lets go clean it out!!"

Thats my take... Its not perfect, but its my veiw of shadeless rolplay morality

Astafas · Post by **Astafas** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 2:59 am

Originally posted by Littiz
He who acts good for receiving eternal life or something in
exchange is the most selfish and evil planner of all!!

You missed my point. The evil gnome said that the only immaterial thing truly evil people desire is power. I said that was simplified and that they might for example desire eternal life and knowledge, both immaterial.

Jaesha · Post by **Jaesha** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:06 am

"In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they are totally unreliable."

Burn them in hell.. no, wait, give them a cup of coffee!

gnomethingy · Post by **gnomethingy** » Sat Aug 03, 2002 5:02 am

Originally posted by Astafas

You missed my point. The evil gnome said that the only immaterial thing truly evil people desire is power. I said that was simplified and that they might for example desire eternal life and knowledge, both immaterial.

True.. Granted but amoung the few immaterial things an evil person might want, Power is the most vital.

Knowledge, true but only becouse it is a form of power and can be exercised to an end that couses the villain to obtain power.

Eternal life, definatly but.. Life isnt truly immaterial or matieral, its the base... No one wants to stop existing in the world as we know it, good or evil.