Computer Game Addiction

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:19 pm

Movie? what movie? No, my Dad used to live somewhere around there when he went to UCLA...he's never been the same since, so I'm told.

Aragorn Returns · Post by **Aragorn Returns** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:44 pm

oh, you're from the UK, of course you haven't seen the movie. there's a movie that recently came back called, you guessed it, "Orange County", it was really funny. it stared jack black

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:50 pm

hey AR, watch the Triple posting.

anyway, I remember what my post was. I'm wondering if the addiction of games has anything to do with sublimibal messaging? The same process is used in advertising, and some music, so it's possible that it could be used in games.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:52 pm

@Aegis, I don't think so. You're talking about the imbedding of messages in visuals or audio signals to suggest a course of action to the user. I'm unaware that this has been done in computer games, and frankly, it would be a very stupid dev teams who even attempted it. Given the flurry of ridiculous criticism currently aimed at computer games, something like this would probably result in legislation--and no one wants that.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:53 pm

Guys, this thread has a topic. It isn't for general spamming. If you want to spam, there are plenty of topics made just for that purpose.

Aegis · Post by **Aegis** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:54 pm

Originally posted by fable
@Aegis, I don't think so. You're talking about the imbedding of messages in visuals or audio signals to suggest a course of action to the user. I'm unaware that this has been done in computer games, and frankly, it would be a very stupid dev teams who even attempted it. Given the flurry of ridiculous criticism currently aimed at computer games, something like this would probably result in legislation--and no one wants that.

I'm just saying it could happen.

Aragorn Returns · Post by **Aragorn Returns** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:56 pm

i agree with fable, i find it highly unlikely there are any subliminal messages in computer games. they might do certain things that make it slightly psychologically addicting, but i doubt subliminal messaging.
@aegis, you are not a mod in this forum, i'll triple post if i want to triple post, unless someone tells me not to of course.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:58 pm

Originally posted by Aegis
I'm just saying it could happen.

Oh, definitely. Let's remember that although specific, direct subliminal suggestion has been rejected by advertising agencies, they've become adept at manipulating images to achieve the same result. You may not receive an ad on television that flicks up a screen saying BUY during a show or commercial, but you do see sleek-lined cars whose shadows are deliberately contoured to resemble the female body. It's wonderful and terrible what you can do with a good talent and imagination.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 6:24 pm

Originally posted by Aragorn Returns
i agree with fable, i find it highly unlikely there are any subliminal messages in computer games. they might do certain things that make it slightly psychologically addicting, but i doubt subliminal messaging.
@aegis, you are not a mod in this forum, i'll triple post if i want to triple post, unless someone tells me not to of course.

Er, actually, I was the one who wanted to keep this thread a no-spammer, above.

Aragorn Returns · Post by **Aragorn Returns** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 6:43 pm

and that's why i haven't done any more triple posts, just for you fable.

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:09 pm

Originally posted by Aragorn Returns
and that's why i haven't done any more triple posts, just for you fable.

I hope not.

The reason you should be doing it is because their Buck's rules.

frogus · Post by **frogus** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:36 am

I don't know about the US, but over here subliminal messaging's against the law. It would be a very stupid design team who made a game including subliminal messages...

Kameleon · Post by **Kameleon** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:51 am

Originally posted by frogus
I don't know about the US, but over here subliminal messaging's against the law. It would be a very stupid design team who made a game including subliminal messages...

Is it really illegal over here? I must admit, I didn't know that...but what about Black and White whispering your name to you? I guess that doesn't count. Sorry about the spam btw...it was all AR's fault

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:55 am

Darn it, even if games are adictive, isn't it a lot more tolerable than teen alcoholism or drug taking?

At the end of the day, the leftist and liberal press will rant on about anything. They won't be satisfied until we're all fine upstanding virginal robot citizens. I'm glad all they can do is rant!

Now where is my copy of Half Life?

Robnark · Post by **Robnark** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:32 am

i thought it was the right-wing reactionary press that wanted the upstanding robots, and the liberal press was more, well, liberal?

oh and subliminal messaging is blatantly illegal...

send me money, send me money

...so there.

Ode to a Grasshopper · Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:40 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy
Darn it, even if games are adictive, isn't it a lot more tolerable than teen alcoholism or drug taking?

At the end of the day, the leftist and liberal press will rant on about anything. They won't be satisfied until we're all fine upstanding virginal robot citizens. I'm glad all they can do is rant!

Now where is my copy of Half Life?

It's certainly no worse than teen alcoholism or drug-taking, but then again I say why settle for the one when you can have all three?

BTW, it was my understanding that it's the conservative press who're more opposed to video games. Of course, the press here in WA is right-wing/conservative, so maybe it's just the media in general.

Gruntboy · Post by **Gruntboy** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:51 am

The press is (at least in the UK), by definition, leftist.

You are mistaking liberal with J.S. Mills style libertarianism.

Liberal these days, in relation to this topic, means:

"Its OK to play computer games (that don't have sex, violence or bad language in them)".

That's a BIG caveat.

I wouldn't have thought the "conservative" press even knew what a gameboy was.

Robnark · Post by **Robnark** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:57 am

ah, fair point. so it's the press who are all bar stewards, then?

although in my experience the right wing press has something of a 'tools of satan' attitude to computer games.

which is quite fun, i must admit - the left-wing press dislikes me for playing the wrong games, the right wing press dislikes me because i have once seen a computer (burn the witch, burn the witch!).

oh, and how is the daily mail leftist?!

Ode to a Grasshopper · Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:04 am

I'm afraid I don't really have very many liberals as examples of liberalism. Western Australia is filled with rednecks, and they run more or less everything.

At least 'responsible' society still allows us to play Tetris...

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:19 am

Originally posted by Gruntboy
The press is (at least in the UK), by definition, leftist.

You are mistaking liberal with J.S. Mills style libertarianism.

@Grunt, the Conservatives who despise even the slightest sign of gun control in the US (say, limiting the number of identical assault rifles in a private collection--and I'm quite serious) still wax righteous over computer games. It's not a liberal vs conservative issue for us. I'd say it's more a ducking-where-responsibility-truly-lies-at-home issue.