[QUOTE=Xandax] You can if the incidents aren't about the same issue.[/quote]
Yes it is! :speech: Both are about cartoons satirising a specific (if different)relgion. So WHY is it a different issue? Explain, please.
[QUOTE=Xandax]No doubt the question about whether they should print them or not is vauge. It is an entierly differnet question from what we are debating. [/quote]
What's 'vague' about it? How is it a different question? It is a relevant part of this issue, imo, since the whole debate is whether or not the cartoons should have been published, for whatever reason.
[QUOTE=Xandax]The question and one of the reasons they were posted, was - should non-belivers of (any) religion be subject to the taboos of said religon?[/quote]
And the answer to that is : NO! Of course not!
BUT, just as the paper refused to print cartoons offensive to Christian belief (in a country you claim is largely atheist), so it should have refused to print cartoons offensive to Muslim belief.
To allow the one but not the other IS hypocrisy, twist it how you will.
[QUOTE=Xandax]IE: should the danish press/authors et al, be submissive to Islam taboos?[/quote]
NO! No one should be, any more than we should be submissive to the taboos of ANY religion.
But the fact is, that the Danish newspaper was submissive to the taboos of Christianity, but not to the taboos of Islam. That is the bottom line. That is the hypocrisy.
[QUOTE=Xandax]And if you have the extreemists and terrorists dictate the agendas - they have already "won", [/quote]
I agree. But we should at least be consistent!
[QUOTE=Xandax]and even regardless, you can be sure there would still have been unrest amongst thoese factions. There have been for years. These people don't need more justification to strap on bombs and go blowing up civilians, they already have what they need, so stepping on eggshells in that regard is pointless.[/quote]
'Stepping on eggshells' and flapping a red rag in the face of a bull are two totally different things, LOL!
[QUOTE=Xandax]Yes, no doubt. However, the cartoons are out there, printed by a privately owned buisness in a country with freedom of press. So how it is dealt with says much more then thousands anecdotes about how they could have done instead of printing them. Hindsight is 20/20.[/quote]
True.
[QUOTE=Xandax]Besides - postitive things are emerging from this in Denmark as well, where moderate Muslims have started to claim a voice for themselves instead of only letting the shouting extremists "talk".[/quote]
Here in the UK, too.
[QUOTE=Xandax]Many jews are also very religous, and thus such things are a part of their culture. Most danes are not religious and thus 2-3 years is a long time for some cartoons which have no influence on their lives. Can not be compared. [/quote]
The UK was largely non-religious, too, until so many Muslims settled here. We are now getting a slow resurgence of Christianity to counteract Islamic influence. Which is both a great pity and a great danger, since it will undoubtedly cause conflict.
I HATE religion.
[QUOTE=Xandax]Not really, because the minority of danes are faithful christians. Most don't support (directly) nor care about religon as long as it is kept within the personal lifes sphere. [/quote]
That was the attitude here as well, but it is changing.
[QUOTE=Xandax]
Christianity is just an easy target, because of "our" national relationship to it, where Islam now is starting to make more of an impact and visible, that topic is starting to be satired as well.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well, we are not afraid of Christian backlash are we?
Fanatical Muslim terrorists are making us afraid of Isalmic backlash.
