Best sci-fi or fantasy flick

Shadow Sandrock · Post by **Shadow Sandrock** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 9:57 am

Originally posted by Rob-hin:
Soon... Very soon, in a month or 2 we will be able to put "Lord of thr Rings" in the list.

Have a little patience...

Just have faith... just like the Happy Mask Man says

Rob-hin · Post by **Rob-hin** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 10:08 am

Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
Just have faith... just like the Happy Mask Man says

Who's the happy mask man? (haven'd seen him in LotR yet but I'm just starting in book#3 Return of the King)

VoodooDali · Post by **VoodooDali** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 10:15 am

Ah, Fable you bring up a film that is near and dear to my heart. I remember back in 1970 when my father told me to stay up late to watch Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast on KCET (?), the PBS station in L.A. I was 9 years old, and totally blown away. His other films are great, too--Blood of a Poet and Orpheus. In a way, he was the father of special effects, and it's amazing how effective his low-tech effects still are.

As for favorite scifi/fantasy flicks:
Total Recall
Brazil
Fifth Element
Alphaville
Demon Seed

There's probably lots more, but that's what comes to mind right now.

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:00 pm

Posted by SS

Just have faith... just like the Happy Mask Man says

Is that a zelda/MM thing?

Mr Sleep · Post by **Mr Sleep** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:03 pm

Originally posted by VoodooDali:
Demon Seed

fable · Post by **fable** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:10 pm

Originally posted by VoodooDali:
Ah, Fable you bring up a film that is near and dear to my heart. I remember back in 1970 when my father told me to stay up late to watch Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast on KCET (?), the PBS station in L.A. I was 9 years old, and totally blown away. His other films are great, too--Blood of a Poet and Orpheus. In a way, he was the father of special effects, and it's amazing how effective his low-tech effects still are.

@Voodoo Dali, you touch upon a very good point. I think Cocteau was brilliant in his use of special effects for several reasons.

1)First, he used them sparingly. There's no visual overload, which can make anybody jaded with the most sophisticated, modern computer effects.

2) He sometimes deliberately placed his special effects in the background, to undercut the mood established by his protoganists.

3) In any case, the special effects were never the main reason for any shot or sequence. So when they occured, they seemed to flow naturally out of the content of the film, enhancing its effect. You never said, "Wow, look at those special effects!" while watching.

4) Cocteau had a poet's insight into reality. His special effects are designed to get across what the poet senses, and wishes to communicate to his audience. Eewoks are just silly little creatures that might as well have been anything else, including ambulatory doorstops. But when the Beast's paws smoke because he has killed, something more basic, hard to vocalize, is touched within us.

Silur · Post by **Silur** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:11 pm

Choosing just one is just too painful, so I'll try to limit it to three

Modern - Bladerunner, directors cut.

Old - A Clockwork Orange.

Classic - Metropolis.

Since they've all been mentioned already, I guess they don't need an introduction...

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:17 pm

Science Fiction:
2001: A Space Odyssey
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Star Wars Episode V
Dune (well I was sort of disappointed but I loved the worms in there.)

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:22 pm

I thought of another outstanding sci-fi flick. I don't remember the year but the title is marooned. IIRC, the movie had very little dialogue.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:24 pm

Originally posted by humanflyz:


2001: A Space Odyssey

The intro is the best IMHO of all films.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:35 pm

I saw a sci-fi movie several years ago about this crew on a space station thingy orbiting Jupiter(at least, it was near Jupiter). The space station/ship's computer had an AI and the programmer of the AI and the AI were like best friends. Something went wrong or some such; and the crew had to evacuate. It was sad cause they had the leave the AI. The movie ended with the crew making it back to Earth and Jupiter becoming a star, thus making our solar system a binary star system. It was a cool movie, but I don't remember what the name of it was. Anyone know what movie this is?

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 9:55 pm

sailor saturn,

sounds like 2010. The monolith at Jupiter. Dr. Chandler, HAL 9000, Roy Scheider, U.S. and russian crew. If this matches up, yes, it was a good movie. If you liked it and haven't seen/read 2001, please do so.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Tue Oct 16, 2001 10:37 pm

Originally posted by Ned Flanders:
sailor saturn,

sounds like 2010. The monolith at Jupiter. Dr. Chandler, HAL 9000, Roy Scheider, U.S. and russian crew. If this matches up, yes, it was a good movie. If you liked it and haven't seen/read 2001, please do so.

I don't recognize the names(Dr. Chandler and Roy Scheider)(I'm lousy with names, so that isn't surprising), but the monolith at Jupiter sounds about right; and HAL is the clearest memory I have of the movie(except for the scene in which Jupiter "exploded" and the ending scene that showed two suns in the sky).

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 12:21 am

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
I don't recognize the names(Dr. Chandler and Roy Scheider)(I'm lousy with names, so that isn't surprising), but the monolith at Jupiter sounds about right; and HAL is the clearest memory I have of the movie(except for the scene in which Jupiter "exploded" and the ending scene that showed two suns in the sky).

IIRC the reason they had to leave was because of war on the earth. (Been a while since I saw it)

Ned Flanders · Post by **Ned Flanders** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 6:02 am

posted by sailorsaturn

I don't recognize the names(Dr. Chandler and Roy Scheider)(I'm lousy with names, so that isn't surprising), but the monolith at Jupiter sounds about right; and HAL is the clearest memory I have of the movie(except for the scene in which Jupiter "exploded" and the ending scene that showed two suns in the sky).

It's definitely 2010, Dr. Chandler is from 2001. Roy Scheider is a real man. He's the lead in 2010. You may have also seen him in Jaws, Blue Thunder, The French Connection

, and lots of other stuff.

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:20 pm

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn
I saw a sci-fi movie several years ago about this crew on a space station thingy orbiting Jupiter(at least, it was near Jupiter). The space station/ship's computer had an AI and the programmer of the AI and the AI were like best friends. Something went wrong or some such; and the crew had to evacuate. It was sad cause they had the leave the AI. The movie ended with the crew making it back to Earth and Jupiter becoming a star, thus making our solar system a binary star system. It was a cool movie, but I don't remember what the name of it was. Anyone know what movie this is?

The story indeed sounds like 2010. However, the book was never made into a movie like 2001.(Maybe I am wrong, please tell me if that's the case because I wanted to see that movie) Also, I don't think that HAL went bad in 2010. The two suns part sounds also like 2010 with Jupiter becoming another sun. The part about the war on earth, I do not know if it is in the book.

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Lucifer gave life to Europa enabling lifeforms to develop so the alien forces could see how the experiment goes through David Bowman and HAL.

Weasel · Post by **Weasel** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:32 pm

Originally posted by humanflyz:
The story indeed sounds like 2010. However, the book was never made into a movie like 2001.(Maybe I am wrong, please tell me if that's the case because I wanted to see that movie) Also, I don't think that HAL went bad in 2010. The two suns part sounds also like 2010 with Jupiter becoming another sun. The part about the war on earth, I do not know if it is in the book.

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Lucifer gave life to Europa enabling lifeforms to develop so the alien forces could see how the experiment goes through David Bowman and HAL.

[url="http://us.imdb.com/Title?0086837"]2010 the Movie[/url]

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 5:37 pm

Originally posted by fable:
That's amazing--not Seven Samurai? And I thought we had it bad in most US towns.

Most Swedish videostores, at least where I live, have a very limited amount of movies for rent. If you want to see older or more "narrow" movies, you have to buy them. And it's rather expensive here

I usually buy a few movies every time I'm abroad.

humanflyz · Post by **humanflyz** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:57 pm

Thanks Weasel.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Wed Oct 17, 2001 8:06 pm

Originally posted by humanflyz:
The story indeed sounds like 2010. However, the book was never made into a movie like 2001.(Maybe I am wrong, please tell me if that's the case because I wanted to see that movie) Also, I don't think that HAL went bad in 2010. The two suns part sounds also like 2010 with Jupiter becoming another sun. The part about the war on earth, I do not know if it is in the book.

HAL didn't go bad. The reason they had to abandon the space station or whatever it was is because of whatever it is that blew up Jupiter. It was so sad to watch them leave HAL behind.