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You make some fair points Tony. But, respectfully, I disagree. I fail to see how focusing the majority of activity in a single thread contributes to the forum as a whole, it may as well be dead, because it amounts to the same thing.
The major thing about having it all in one thread is that multiple threads on multiple different topics get no attention, whereas one thread on one topic which is usually vague, can be extremely detrimental in that it restricts posting access and shows a forum with one active thread. If I'm a user, I'm not going to visit a forum with one active thread and forty threads with less than twenty posts , nor am I going to see just how active one thread is.
And when there are more people on it is more likely other threads will be active, but we seem to be thin on the ground quite a lot now, presumably for many reasons
I spoke with DW about Oblivion maybe having an effect, but we're not totally ready to take on that idea. We also spoke of the steady stream of older people leaving, in which I asked her how often she really see's an active member who actually posted heavily in 2005, not just with the join date like Kipi or Fiona.

How, presuming other threads will be busy is a bit of a reach here... considering that for about a week or two, the SS was busy and the rest of the forum seemed dead.
I was merely pointing out that we are human, and therefore we cant be perfect.
I hate blanket excuses. *shudder*
Also, I saw a complain earlier on about how the SS has developed into a sort of clique in which new people dont join and 'arent welcome'. Completely untrue.
I don't remember anything about being unwelcome, but I do remember several members posting extremely heavily in one thread and rarely anywhere else. Yes, other threads might not be active, but they won't become active unless you post in them.
not in the exclusive way in which COMM, Rolling Thunder, or the Heathens were.
I suggest you read some of those threads, especially the rolling thunder one. They were a group of friends who posted together most often because of ties, I suppose, although they always yelled welcomes and tossed drinks to any new comers. The Spammer's were completely random and the COMMs were always speaking of domination (*cough*), but as you can see these were just names to toy other people with. Hell, if this was more sect like, Mahar would have declared me unfit for SYM originally due to COMM tennants. ;)

My point is, you might not have a name, but the thread has been dominated by a few posters. Some of them are active everywhere, some I rarely see post out of SYM, and more I rarely even see leave that thread.
abandon a thread after 150 posts and start a new one?
No, 1,500-3,00 is far more traditional. ;) Tap and Tea was actually a more a-typical pub thread. The Bohemian Breakfast and Book bar died too quickly.
I would almost go so far as to say that a favor is done to those who think Spam should be avoided by keeping all our spam in (mostly) one large place rather than litter the ground with our 'trash'. Thats all for now.
What is with people thinking SYM is plauged by spam? SYM was made for off topic and general spammity. I mean, geez, goody was one of the reason's this place was made, and random hypothtical threads have been around for a long time. Just read back to the first few threads... or even halfway in between, and you'll find lots of threads for random conversation rather than for serious discussion, which didn't even get all that much face time at the time anyways.

When you bottle it, you restrict it, and not all members like to post the same. The SS has a certain atmosphere around it that I really don't want to post in, but a pub thread might.
Maybe you don't agree, but it is important to help people in the early stages and then if you want you can judge after they are comfy
Right around when they get the mentaility of posting fairly exclusively in one thread. Y

es, I know, the SS might be the most active, but that's because when you look at the forum, you see members posting five times in it, wandering into the rest of SYM to post once, post again in the SS for about six times, maybe leaving to check on the Banshee Classifieds forum, coming back and posting in the SS again...

By the time new members come and see it, they know they want responses and to be excepted and go to it, and rarely leave until they are settled in enough that they fall into similar posting patterns.
For clarity's sake, I'd like to know whether I am one of these people everyone refers to as sticking to the SS.
I see you in the Lionheart and NwN forums fairly often, whenever you really leave, so I think your fine, really. You even went and posted in the Warcraft thread I started some time ago, which was excellent.
@DW: We know the list of spam threads 'SS, HC, etc.' Now, I log onto Gamebanshee, and I look through the threads with new posts. I go down the list, until I find the most recent spam thread that has been posted in, then I choose that thread. I the thread that is being spammed in, and I go there. I don't boycott any threads because I don't think I'm not wanted in there, I boycott because all I will have to listen to in there will be the cicaddas chirping.
Pub threads performed an identical purpose for at least five years by now. I really don't view the SS as much more than a longer version with set members.
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[QUOTE=Ikky]OMG, did Ravager just come out of his lair to post in another thread?

Seriously though, Ravager, to answer your question and satisfy your curiousity, I've read only about 500 of your posts. Maybe if I grossly overestimate the number, I might get to 2000... That's less than 12 percent.

It's true: I don't read as much as I forget. Still, you posted 74,8% in the 3 mayor pubs. (I calculated it)

However, I don't put labels on people. I wouldn't call you a pub-sticker.[/QUOTE]
Well even if Ravvy posted about 75% in the major spam threads, that still means that about 25% were not posted there, and 25% of the amount that he posted... well that's still a few thousand posts in other threads, more than most people manage here. Hey even 5% of his posts in non spam related threads would be quite an achievement for a normal person. But then again Ravvy is our unique spam bunn-ay. ;)
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Hill-Shatar wrote:The major thing about having it all in one thread is that multiple threads on multiple different topics get no attention, whereas one thread on one topic which is usually vague, can be extremely detrimental in that it restricts posting access and shows a forum with one active thread. If I'm a user, I'm not going to visit a forum with one active thread and forty threads with less than twenty posts , nor am I going to see just how active one thread is.
That's probably true, but I don't necessarily think it detracts attention from certain topics raised in other threads: not everyone is comfortable posting their thought on war or paedophilia here, nevertheless when the topic is dominated by near-experts with all sorts of statistics and such. That isn't intended as a dig at them, but it's true. What topics haven't recieved enough attention?
We also spoke of the steady stream of older people leaving, in which I asked her how often she really see's an active member who actually posted heavily in 2005, not just with the join date like Kipi or Fiona.
The mass-exodus of the 'oldies' seems to me to be the biggest problem; oblivion can't be it entirely, you're right. Where's Fas and Aegis?
I don't remember anything about being unwelcome, but I do remember several members posting extremely heavily in one thread and rarely anywhere else. Yes, other threads might not be active, but they won't become active unless you post in them.
True and that is one of the biggest problems with the SS, I agree. I still don't see how it's unwelcome or anything of the sort.
I suggest you read some of those threads, especially the rolling thunder one. They were a group of friends who posted together most often because of ties, I suppose, although they always yelled welcomes and tossed drinks to any new comers.
How is this any different from the SS? I'd use the exact same argument for it or the SF: if your main point was to disagree with phreddie that those 'clans' were more clique-ish then I may agree with you that they weren't and you can ignore what I just said, but otherwise my query stands.
My point is, you might not have a name, but the thread has been dominated by a few posters. Some of them are active everywhere, some I rarely see post out of SYM, and more I rarely even see leave that thread.
So what? So was the SF, which you contributed heavily to if I recall...
What is with people thinking SYM is plauged by spam? SYM was made for off topic and general spammity. I mean, geez, goody was one of the reason's this place was made, and random hypothtical threads have been around for a long time. Just read back to the first few threads... or even halfway in between, and you'll find lots of threads for random conversation rather than for serious discussion, which didn't even get all that much face time at the time anyways.
This is one of the biggest misconceptions about SYM in my opinion that I was maade aware of in this same thread awhile back. Then, like now, many people see the idle chit-chat of the SS as 'spam' that is dominating SYM and that people think should be thrown in the corner and kept out of serious threads. My interpretation is that this is not the case at all: SYM was built on 'spam' as far as I can tell. There are those serious topics that carry the "No Spam" title in which the crazy topic-changing should stay out of, but otherwise that's what I like most about SYM. 'Random discussion' is what I like most about this place: 'spam' in other words. Though I find the name a bit degrading (I don't consider the posts in the SS 'postfarming' at all, really), the distinction between 'postfarming' and 'spam' is something I wish everyone would understand.
When you bottle it, you restrict it, and not all members like to post the same. The SS has a certain atmosphere around it that I really don't want to post in, but a pub thread might.
That's fine, I personally don't like pub threads outside of maybe that Mugs and Jugs one Mag made a bit back.
es, I know, the SS might be the most active, but that's because when you look at the forum, you see members posting five times in it, wandering into the rest of SYM to post once, post again in the SS for about six times, maybe leaving to check on the Banshee Classifieds forum, coming back and posting in the SS again...
True, but it's still better than not posting at all. If five SS posts leads to somebody posting only once in another thread I see it as better than not doing so at all. I think of it as like a sideshow attraction: it helps bring people on SYM more often and I think that is its contribution that others don't seem to see or agree with. Unfortunately, I admit, they get caught up in that same side-show attraction and get stuck there sometimes. What are you gonna do about it? Close the SS? I guarantee you'll lose alot of SYMians...
I see you in the Lionheart and NwN forums fairly often, whenever you really leave, so I think your fine, really. You even went and posted in the Warcraft thread I started some time ago, which was excellent.
So by making the occasional post in an rpg thread, Rav is 'fine' and apparently not responsible for the downfall of SYM, right? Nothing against him, I'm glad his soul has been saved and all... :D
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Good stuff hill. :D
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Hmmm... clear and concise:
As I take it the 'problem' is that too many people just spam, and dont contribute to the discussions. Well, what if these people dont have anything to say, dont have the time to say it, or are using SYM as a place to escape from serious discussions and just spam. In the words of uh.... im thinking the beatles: Let it be.

@ Hill: Ive read a bout a hundred or so threads from various points in the archives, some have scared me, some have educated me, others have made me laugh, some have done all three. Im not talking about SYM's original purpose, Im talking about how it currently exist, for the Original SYM ;) , and the Current SYM are too different to compare at times. As I see it there are far more serious discussion threads now than there were then, thats not the point, as matter of fact, I have no clue what the point is, refer to the above argument if this confuses you... oh yeah: People come to SYM to have fun, talk if they want to talk, catch up on some odd tidbits in the news, spam, and just relax in stress free environment, that and they enjoy the company of some of the other people who do the same things on this forum, which is why 'groups' develop. There some people who come here to spam, because they want to, and therefore they rarely do anything else. They meet only the people who spam, and are happy in their simple existence. Then there are the people who come here to talk, discuss, and share knowledge, as this does not include spam, they rarely spam, and meet only (with a few exceptions) the people who come to do the same things they do. There are others who go between the two groups, as you do Hill, and discuss things that have to do with their profession, or things they are interested in, and also spam when they have the time. The only real thing all of us have in common is an interest in RPG's.
@Tony: Fas as far as I know dissapeared, Aegis left us as I understand it. :(
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[QUOTE=ik911]OMG, did Ravager just come out of his lair to post in another thread? ;)

Seriously though, Ravager, to answer your question and satisfy your curiousity, I've read only about 500 of your posts. Maybe if I grossly overestimate the number, I might get to 2000... That's less than 12 percent.

It's true: I don't read as much as I forget. Still, you posted 74,8% in the 3 mayor pubs. (I calculated it)

However, I don't put labels on people. I wouldn't call you a pub-sticker.
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I don't really think you have a legitimate point here, Ik. It is certainly true you post in many places, and you are funny and interesting when you do. But you are hardly prolific. If we relied on people like you then this would be a quiet place indeed. I don't mean to criticise, I know you are not around much. But it is because of people like Ravager that you have a forum to come back to and I think you should think about that
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The mass-exodus of the 'oldies' seems to me to be the biggest problem; oblivion can't be it entirely, you're right. Where's Fas and Aegis?
Aegis is on my MSN list, but he's always set to "Busy"...
How is this any different from the SS? I'd use the exact same argument for it or the SF: if your main point was to disagree with phreddie that those 'clans' were more clique-ish then I may agree with you that they weren't and you can ignore what I just said, but otherwise my query stands.
Not really, the SF was another random thread when I originally posted in it, although a few other members might have called me a heretic for posting in the HC. It's that now, with such heavy domination of the posting, it is getting quite close to cliqish, and these clans are immensely difficult to figure out, like I've been trying to do since I stopped posting in major spam threads.
So what? So was the SF, which you contributed heavily to if I recall...
About 1,500 of my posts there were with Ravvy within the time frame of two weeks. The rest came within the next 10,000 posts, which would be about an eighth of the total posts. After 10,000, I posted less then three times a week in one...

I'm not exactly proud or happy of that fact either.
Ive read a bout a hundred or so threads from various points in the archives, some have scared me, some have educated me, others have made me laugh, some have done all three. Im not talking about SYM's original purpose, Im talking about how it currently exist, for the Original SYM , and the Current SYM are too different to compare at times.
Then why in hell did you bring up the Rolling Thunder, COMM and the Heathens? Either way, the current SYM structure is the problem as stated at this moment, and it is comparing it to the past that we can see how things have changed, namely with the introduction of the SF and later the SS. The Heathen one I'm not including, since it took them over a year to get 5000 posts in one thread.

So unless your looking into alternate realities, looking at how it currently exists is not exactly all that hard. Ooga, big thread and thread on SYM structure. Yagga.

As for reading a few of the 6,000+ threads in SYM, let me remind you that I was speaking of the general SYM atmosphere, not the atmosphere in Flagg's or whoever it was' Newbie Spammer's Guide.
As I see it there are far more serious discussion threads now than there were then, thats not the point, as matter of fact, I have no clue what the point is, refer to the above argument if this confuses you... oh yeah: People come to SYM to have fun, talk if they want to talk, catch up on some odd tidbits in the news, spam, and just relax in stress free environment, that and they enjoy the company of some of the other people who do the same things on this forum, which is why 'groups' develop. There some people who come here to spam, because they want to, and therefore they rarely do anything else. They meet only the people who spam, and are happy in their simple existence. Then there are the people who come here to talk, discuss, and share knowledge, as this does not include spam, they rarely spam, and meet only (with a few exceptions) the people who come to do the same things they do. There are others who go between the two groups, as you do Hill, and discuss things that have to do with their profession, or things they are interested in, and also spam when they have the time. The only real thing all of us have in common is an interest in RPG's.
This has to do with the topic how? It's always been like this, except for subtle differences in forum membership and structures throughout the years...
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[QUOTE=Hill-Shatar]although a few other members might have called me a heretic for posting in the HC.[/QUOTE]
I really doubt anything like that, would have been beyond a joke. Although I and several others did believe we had been treated by several people in the HC at the time, it wasn't anything that lead to some kind of divide or a belief that people shouldn't post in particular places.
Though I suppose if any joke about someone being called a 'heretic' for posting in the HC were to be taken in a different spirit to that which was intended, then that could be taken as clannish. That's unintended though.
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I didn't know that phrase even required a smilie now as well. :(

Here you go ---> ( ;) )
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Heh, fair enough.
I just thought I'd emphasise it as it could be linked to clannish behaviour and there would be many people who wouldn't know whether it was a serious comment or not. :)

And I'd like to thank the people who said nice things about my contributions here, I do appreciate it. :)
As for ikky....hmm, can I mete out some form of divine retribution on him or get someone else to do it for me? Come on, I'd pay! :laugh: ;)
More seriously, I think it's nice to get Ikky's contrary view too...even if I end up a target. :D
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Oi!!!!!

Give me a serious thread about Drag Racing, Queen, or NASCAR (Things I KNOW something about) and I'll be all chatty.

It's a comfort issue.

Thats all I got to say about that.
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Hill-Shatar wrote:Not really, the SF was another random thread when I originally posted in it, although a few other members might have called me a heretic for posting in the HC. It's that now, with such heavy domination of the posting, it is getting quite close to cliqish, and these clans are immensely difficult to figure out, like I've been trying to do since I stopped posting in major spam threads.
Clans? What clans? The only known clans that existed or still exist here were COMM, Rolling Thunder and the like. There is absolutely no SS clan so far as I can tell, yet I keep hearing about this stuff. How can you call something clique-ish when you never make an effort to post there?! I said this once before and was ignored, now I'm saying it again: if you guys feel left out or something, then try your hand there. Don't stand out in the rain and yell at the people indoors because you're wet.
About 1,500 of my posts there were with Ravvy within the time frame of two weeks. The rest came within the next 10,000 posts, which would be about an eighth of the total posts. After 10,000, I posted less then three times a week in one...
So what? You posted there. Alot. More than I.
I'm not exactly proud or happy of that fact either.
What's to be proud of? What's to be ashamed of for chrissakes?! You were just spamming and (hopefully) having fun. What the frick? Aren't we being a wee-bit dramatic here?
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[QUOTE=ik911]OMG, did Ravager just come out of his lair to post in another thread? ;)

Seriously though, Ravager, to answer your question and satisfy your curiousity, I've read only about 500 of your posts. Maybe if I grossly overestimate the number, I might get to 2000... That's less than 12 percent.

It's true: I don't read as much as I forget. Still, you posted 74,8% in the 3 mayor pubs. (I calculated it)

However, I don't put labels on people. I wouldn't call you a pub-sticker.
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Yet, oddly enough, you just did. :rolleyes:

For clarity's sake, Chu would also like to know if he is quoteunquote, "A pubsticker"

If not, Ive got some serious work to do!!!!!! :eek:


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[QUOTE=TonyMontana1638]Clans? What clans? The only known clans that existed or still exist here were COMM, Rolling Thunder and the like. There is absolutely no SS clan so far as I can tell, yet I keep hearing about this stuff. [/QUOTE]
When using term "clan", there should be quite clear dividing who belongs to it and who doesn't, right? And, I for one can't such divide in SS. There are people who post more often, yes, but again there are even more people who post more rarely there. So, where does the line go who belongs to that "clan", if it does even exists?
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TonyMontana1638 wrote:Clans? What clans? The only known clans that existed or still exist here were COMM, Rolling Thunder and the like. There is absolutely no SS clan so far as I can tell, yet I keep hearing about this stuff. How can you call something clique-ish when you never make an effort to post there?!I said this once before and was ignored, now I'm saying it again: if you guys feel left out or something, then try your hand there. Don't stand out in the rain and yell at the people indoors because you're wet.
First, two points I want to clarify.
1. COMM, Rolling Thunder etc. were only jokingly known as clans. They did not take themselves seriously, nor did anyone else.
2. The afore-mentioned 'groups' contributed widely to SYM as a whole. Indeed, during their time this forum was incredibly active and vital.

I know this might seem insignificant, but I think it carries some weight. let's look at the name "Succeeder Stronghold.." You seem literate and intelligent to me, so I'm sure you know that "stronghold," denotes a type of fortress.
Here are some definitions from dictionary.com:
1. A fortified place or a fortress.
2. A place of survival or refuge: one of the last strongholds of an age-old tradition.
3. An area dominated or occupied by a special group or distinguished by a special quality: a feminist stronghold; a stronghold of democracy.
and from the Oxford:
• noun 1 a place that has been fortified against attack. 2 a place of strong support for a cause or political party.

Now, I'm sure you'll dismiss me and insist the name is meaningless and purely coincidental. Of course, I realise that the name probably is coincidental, but it is hardly a welcoming one, and it certainly does suggest a clique.

Moreover, the atmosphere, whether intentional or not *is* cliquish. This is what happens when a group of people, many of whom rarely post elsewhere, continually meet in the same place. You foster an intimate sense of familiarity that does not extend to those who post there less often. A history builds up, in-family jokes are a part of daily conversation. This is a natural and inevitable evolution. One that is amplified greatly if the said thread is never ending.

I also want to point out a critical difference between your initial perceptions of SYM when you first arrived, and certain views on the SS. You created an enclave within an existing community. Out of insecurity and fear, instead of endeavouring to become part of SYM as a whole, you formed your own clique. Thus, it was you who first stood out in the rain, and never truly came inside.
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[QUOTE=dragon wench]I know this might seem insignificant, but I think it carries some weight. let's look at the name "Succeeder Stronghold.." You seem literate and intelligent to me, so I'm sure you know that "stronghold," denotes a type of fortress. [/QUOTE]

Oh please... :rolleyes:
By that exact same logic, the Citadel falls under the same 'clannish' heading and that is what I based the name on, in no way was it supposed to be excluding.
Besides, what has this come to, if we're going to start nitpicking thread names?

And here's another of my views...
I see people complaining about new threads either not being created or posted upon by certain people and I remind everyone that people post here by choice. Do you want those people or not? And do you really think this thread is going to encourage more posters? :confused:
If I want to post on a thread, I will otherwise I won't. That's my personal choice and I don't like others to make me feel guilty for that.
This is regardless of whether or not I'm one of the people being referred to here.
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I am fed up with this, to be perfectly honest. I am no longer sure what we are talking about. The one thing I seem to get out of the murk is that there is unhappiness that people who post in the SS don't post elsewhere and don't start threads. So I had a look: the most prolific posters in the SS come out like this:

1. Ravager has started 35 other threads
2. OS has started 52
3. Fiona has started 65
4. Juniper has started 8
5. Slade has started 6
6. Chu has started 51
7. Magrus has started 83
8. TonyMontana has started 17
9. DJV has started 17
10.Lestat has started 22

Obviously there is a lot of variation but I do not think this is nothing and I do not think the evidence supports the contention. It compares with eg. Hill, who has started 50; Ik, who has started 39; Luis, who has started 124 and DW who has started 500 :speech:

Maybe we all need to stop and think more clearly about what is really annoying us (if anything)? Just a thought
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@Rav,
I repeat, a name can be highly significant. Do you have any idea at all how much companies will pay market research firms when they want to create a name and image for themselves? There are very good reasons for this.

Regarding this thread discouraging new posters. As far as I'm concerned that damage has already been done, and not as result of this thread. But truthfully, I really don't care anymore.

Others and myself have tried, clearly and concisely, to make the same set of points till we are blue in the face. I'm not sure why our posts are so difficult to comprehend. I can only assume that when you are part of the clique in question you have trouble seeing outside of your self-created bubble.
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Post by Ravager »

Okay, here's my point.
I don't see why I should let other people let me how/where I should post (beyond the rules of course).
And that is what it feels like.

Perhaps the SS name choice wasn't the best, so, what do you suggest, spam threads names decided by commitee? :confused:
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I have attempted to avoid posting here, once again, but seeing as you inconsiderate sods wented and invoked me... Bloody gits, I was happy in my sort of lurking bliss. Sort of like a retirement. So, I am hoping that you wankers will listen to what is said, instead of simply writing everyone off as attacking you without provocation.

In regards to the clique nature of SYM. This has always been an issue, and I really do not care about the meagre defence people have attempted against this statement. It is the truth of the fact. Since SYM was created, the members have inadvertantly become standoffish. Simply, SYMer's are not the most approachable of posters, simply because of the amount of in-behaviour we have.

Try a little experiment, find a social group in real life which typically sticks to itself, but does not discourage interaction with other people. You will find that cementing yourself within the group takes a lot of effort, and will often seem discouraging because of the amount of time it would take to actually become one of them. It is no different online.

The Succeeder Stronghold, Heathen Citadel, Spam Factory, aside from my own personal dislike of post farming threads (which, when you actually look at the conversation, that is the only real thing to call those threads, as they more often than not appear more like an MSN chat log, than a forum for discussion), are cliqueish. This is because of the rapidity of how they swell in posts, and the amount of interlinked posts and comments made between a solid, and small, group of posters within. To break into such a group, be them welcoming or not, is difficult to even approach on account of the speed, size and nature of the posts.

Before someone decides to attempt to martyr me for those comments, it is not the first time it has happened, but it is the first time it has been so noticable.

Which brings me to the second point I would like to make. These threads housing the current active clique are stagnant! The fact that the same thread exists for over ten thousand posts gives an appearce of stagnation and inactivity within the forum. When a new poster, or unfamilar poster looks at SYM, and they constantly see one thread at the top, and at such a high number of posts contributed, it easily appears as that is the only thread worth posting in, because otherwise it goes virtually ignored, especially when contrasting it the average thread of ten to thirty posts.

The proposed solution? Return the previous thread post count limitations. What does this mean? Well, previously when this initiative was used, a thread would hit one thousand posts, closed down, and then a new thread with the same premise would be created, and life would continue. Amazing, would you not agree?

Now, what does this do for the forum? It creates the image of dynamic life. Threads, especially with the amount of content currently within these aforementioned threads, will create a wave of new threads, without bumping all non-spam threads off the front page. We know it works, as it we used to practice such things.

Lastly, start listening to each other, you bloody wankers! Everyone wants SYM to continue to thrive and prosper. Nobody is out to get the other, instead they are out to work with you. People are unjustly attacking other posters for comments made only to encourage thought and discussion. Remember, the only person who can make a final decision here is Buck.

Oh, and one more thing. If any of you bloody sods talk back, I will have to crack you upside the head with a Sturgeon. And I do so hate expending that sort of effort, so please for the love of cheap porn and hookers, listen...
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Post by TonyMontana1638 »

Well ok, this has been a good discussion and all...
*looks around SYM*

The SS- still there...
The oldies- still missing, 'cept for Aegis who I'm sure will be gone within a ten-day...
Buck- Omipotently silent...

Hmmm, doesn't seem like anything's changed to me.

Well that was fun. :p

Oh, and his whole name business is the most absurd thing I've ever heard... I could just as easily analyze the name "Dragon Wench" in order to make a similar point if you want. Probably a more damaging one too.
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