How do I remove curse, SoU

Julian · Post by **Julian** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:32 am

I'm in the great library and have gotten cursed.
But nothing in my inventory, or that the asabi sells
seems to get ridd of it.

Help please!

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:40 am

Hello my fellow norseman....
Which class are you? If you are a spellcaster or a rogue with the Use Magic Device skill, you can take a scroll of remove curse and you will be fine.

Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:40 am

*flinches*
Baaad situation - and one that I've been in, too. I hope your character can use scrolls... since there is no "remove curse" potion, only a scroll.

I was a fighter back then.
And thus screwed. Had to reload.

:::If your chara -can- use scrolls, chat the following:
## DebugMode 1
## dm_spawnitem NW_IT_SPARSCR402
## DebugMode 0
A scroll of "Remove Curse" will appear under your cursor.:::

-Zel

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:45 am

healing kit can't remove curse.....

By the way: What does the curse do?

Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:57 am

Curse gives a -2 penalty on all your ability scores.

So yes, it is something serious.

-Zel

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:59 am

Heling kits are only curing poison and desises.
with curses best way it's potions of Restoration (not always work. depends on Curse power),scrolls of Restoration lesser or greater or scroll Remove curse. for some payment Curse might be removed in any Temple.

Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:19 am

Restoration does -not- work directly on "curse", but it can, little by little, restore your abilities to the normal level... so you basically cure the illness by curing the symptoms.

Still, judging from my experience, "lesser restoration" is entirely inefficient. I drank ~10 potions back then but was still cursed. Can't say anything about "greater restoration", but the problem is basically the same then, as there are only scrolls that do this.

-Zel

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:29 am

it's not working by steps. Restoration might remove or not cursing effects. potions are lesser restoration and they realy not much,but restoration or greater restoration will remove cursing. if i am not mistaken. remove curse and temples will work for 100%

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:34 am

Just looked at Restorations. they should remove curse. look for yourself:

http://www.gamebanshee.com/neverwintern ... ration.jpg

http://www.gamebanshee.com/neverwintern ... ration.jpg

http://www.gamebanshee.com/neverwintern ... ration.jpg

Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:43 am

*reads lesser restoration script*

Hmmm, judging from what I see, "lesser restoration" doesn't care for caster/effect strength. It simply scans the target for a list of adverse effects and then removes them. But curse is not among them, as it is -not- "composed" from several single ability decrease effects, but is instead -one- big effect. So, lesser restoration will ignore it, because it only affects "EFFECT_TYPE_ABILITY_DECREASE" penalties.

*reads restoration script*
Nope, ineffective as well.

*reads greater restoration script*
...yep, Greater Restoration would help (as it includes EFFECT_TYPE_CURSE ).

Funny factoid: For all I see, the player-accessible spell "bestow curse" does -not- use the curse effect that the monsters use on you. Instead, it lowers each single ability, so if you were cursed by a player, lesser restoration would work.

-Zel

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:03 am

ah.. anode "well done" implementation of Bioware's. i should guess that.

Julian · Post by **Julian** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:04 pm

Problem is that i can only get lesser restoration.
I'm a fighter/champion of torm, don't think i can use scrolls. What about giving a scroll to Deekin, can that do it?

Thanks

Fiberfar · Post by **Fiberfar** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:16 pm

Now I belive that you can use the greater restoration scroll whatsoever class you are... My Half-orc barbarian used greater restoration on himself a couple of times....

Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:22 pm

Well you can give it to him, but you can't bring him to use it...

Far as I see, there are really just two options left for you.

a) cheat-raise all your stats so they are 2points -above- the real level, thus the effects of the curse would be indirectly voided. You'd only have that curse icon sitting in the top right corner, but it would basically have no actual consequence then.

b) reload from a save before you were cursed.

<edit>
Indeed, the "Great Restoration" scroll is not limited to arcane classes. O_O
I never noticed -that- before.
Sooo... just adapt the cheating instructions from above and summon
"NW_IT_SPDVSCR701" instead. It's "Greater Restoration".

-Zel

Drakosha · Post by **Drakosha** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:11 am

That not the only scroll. remove poison,resurect and 3-4 more scrolls are for any class.

Admo · Post by **Admo** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:31 am

But I take it with a lower chance of success? Based on Cha as well?

Zel Greywords · Post by **Zel Greywords** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:09 am

Far as I see, no. Judging from the script, even a level1-fighter wth a devastating cha would apparently be able to properly use the GreaterRestoration Scroll.
But then again - is there even something like spell failure when it comes to scrolls? (apart from the armor-based one of course, but that check happens independently -before- casting anyway.)

If there is a difficulty check like that, then it is not implemented in the spell scripts but rather hardcoded somewhere in the engine... bound to the "use magic item" skill, of course, but I thought that one only decided wether you can use an item or not.

-Zel

Julian · Post by **Julian** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:00 am

Problem solved!

My guy could use remove, and i checked other scrolls.
It seems he can use all remove and neutralize, restoration and such things. Those services a temple normally offerd.
Except healing

Thanks for all the help