Is Edwin blind? :rolleyes:

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Sat Feb 23, 2002 11:41 am

This time through BG1, I had Edwin join my party. I also have Minsc. By the time I reached the gnoll fortress, both were dead, but I continued on and rescued Dynaheir. Now, as I reach the Nashkel mines, Edwin suddenly says "I have hired you for a purpose and expect results. If the witch is not found and dealt with soon I shall be forced to sever our relationship(gladly, I should think)." Dynaheir is standing directly in front of him as he says this.

Does this mean he's going to leave my party eventually?

Skuld · Post by **Skuld** » Sat Feb 23, 2002 11:47 am

First of all did you resurect them or something because how can Edwin be complaining when he's dead. And I thought you had to kill Dynaheir to fulfil his quest. Just a thought. Hope you can resolve this.

Coot · Post by **Coot** » Sun Feb 24, 2002 3:51 am

Spoilerish:

IIRC Edwin DOES want you to kill Dynaheir, but if you refuse he won't leave.

Stilgar · Post by **Stilgar** » Mon Feb 25, 2002 2:52 am

You can have both in you're party, but i would recommand loading an earlyer savegame, just to be sure!

Vivien · Post by **Vivien** » Fri Mar 01, 2002 9:54 am

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It sounds like you joined Dynaheira and THEN resurrected Edwin? That would mean that they never had that fun dialogue with Edwin mentioning he'll keep his eye on her, and Dynaheira retorting that she would as well but she expects to get less pleasure from her task than he will in his?

If they never had the dialogue it probable never clicked for Edwin. I suggest saving (In case something goes horribly wrong like either Dynaheira or Minsc not wanting to rejoin) and then kicking Dynaheira out and rejoining her...the dialogue should happen then and all should be good.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Sat Mar 02, 2002 10:07 am

Originally posted by Vivien
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It sounds like you joined Dynaheira and THEN resurrected Edwin? That would mean that they never had that fun dialogue with Edwin mentioning he'll keep his eye on her, and Dynaheira retorting that she would as well but she expects to get less pleasure from her task than he will in his?

If they never had the dialogue it probable never clicked for Edwin. I suggest saving (In case something goes horribly wrong like either Dynaheira or Minsc not wanting to rejoin) and then kicking Dynaheira out and rejoining her...the dialogue should happen then and all should be good.

Right, I did wait until after Dynaheir joined my party to resurrect Edwin and Minsc. And some how I found it easier to fight through a horde of Gnolls with a Fighter, Thief, and Mage than with a Fighter, Thief, Mage, Ranger, and Cleric.

Alright, if I get around to resuming that particular game, I'll give that a try. I might not resume that game since I made it before finding out that Kensai can't be Chaotic Neutral as I was planning on dual-classing her to Kensai/Mage in BG2 and having a cat familiar.

Gnu · Post by **Gnu** » Sun Mar 03, 2002 8:11 am

I always have a full party when I go to Gnoll Stronghold (Main character, Minsc, Khalid, Jaheira, Imoen and Edwin). I let Khalid fight the Gnolls alone, so he dies. Then I kill the rest of the gnolls, and before I talk to Dynaheir I kick Edwin. Dynaheir joins, Minsc is happy. I send Dynaheir, alone against the Gnolls blocking the exit, so she dies. Then I pick up Edwin again, he is perfectly happy. Then I pick up either Viconia, Tiax or Quayle.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Sun Mar 03, 2002 1:11 pm

Originally posted by Gnu
I always have a full party when I go to Gnoll Stronghold (Main character, Minsc, Khalid, Jaheira, Imoen and Edwin). I let Khalid fight the Gnolls alone, so he dies. Then I kill the rest of the gnolls, and before I talk to Dynaheir I kick Edwin. Dynaheir joins, Minsc is happy. I send Dynaheir, alone against the Gnolls blocking the exit, so she dies. Then I pick up Edwin again, he is perfectly happy. Then I pick up either Viconia, Tiax or Quayle.

Well, I had Minsc, Jaheira, Edwin, Imoen, and Viconia. I don't like Jaheira much in BG1, so I killed her in order to make room for Dynaheir, who I do like. I had a full party when I left Nashkel. It's just, by the time I got to Dynaheir, half my party was dead, including both Minsc and Edwin. It won't bother me much if Edwin leaves, since I don't like Red Wizards of Thay anyway.

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:43 am

Originally posted by Gnu
I always have a full party when I go to Gnoll Stronghold (Main character, Minsc, Khalid, Jaheira, Imoen and Edwin). I let Khalid fight the Gnolls alone, so he dies. Then I kill the rest of the gnolls, and before I talk to Dynaheir I kick Edwin. Dynaheir joins, Minsc is happy. I send Dynaheir, alone against the Gnolls blocking the exit, so she dies. Then I pick up Edwin again, he is perfectly happy. Then I pick up either Viconia, Tiax or Quayle.

You heartless beast.

I usually kill Edwin at first sight, rescue Dynaheir and let Minsc and Dynaheir rejoice of seeing each other again. Then let Minsc die in a battle and make way for Ajantis…

Gnu · Post by **Gnu** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:58 am

BLASPHEMY! EDWIN IS THE ONE!
HOW COULD YOU YOU %/¤(%&#¤!!!!

As for Minsc, he is the second best.

GRR!

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 1:24 pm

This reminds me, I haven't yet confronted the notorious Red Wiz in my ongoing game. Excuse me for a moment, I'll do that now
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Done, Edwin killed - once again. No challenge, Edwin so soooo soft. Muhahahahahahhaaa....

Well, Minsc is OK, at least Boo is fun. But there's no room for him - Ajantis is more versatile. By Helm!

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 6:10 pm

Originally posted by Moleman

This reminds me, I haven't yet confronted the notorious Red Wiz in my ongoing game. Excuse me for a moment, I'll do that now
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Done, Edwin killed - once again. No challenge, Edwin so soooo soft. Muhahahahahahhaaa....

Well, Minsc is OK, at least Boo is fun. But there's no room for him - Ajantis is more versatile. By Helm!

Who's Ajantis?

I've only been completely through BG1 once and there were several NPCs I never saw.

ltldrgn1 · Post by **ltldrgn1** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 9:44 pm

IIRC, (been so long since I've played the original), Ajantis is a paladin found in the area (can't remember the name of the area) with all of the ankheg's as well as the pit that you find the boy in. I could try to find my notes to get more specific if you wish.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 9:54 pm

Originally posted by ltldrgn1
IIRC, (been so long since I've played the original), Ajantis is a paladin found in the area (can't remember the name of the area) with all of the ankheg's as well as the pit that you find the boy in. I could try to find my notes to get more specific if you wish.

Okay...I vaguely remember running into him. The most likely reason I didn't remember him is that I don't tend to use Paladins.

ltldrgn1 · Post by **ltldrgn1** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 10:00 pm

Forgot to mention, you end up killing him in BGII in Windspear. You don't have a choice either.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 10:37 pm

Originally posted by ltldrgn1
Forgot to mention, you end up killing him in BGII in Windspear. You don't have a choice either.

I get to kill a Paladin? Awesome!

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:33 pm

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn

Okay...I vaguely remember running into him. The most likely reason I didn't remember him is that I don't tend to use Paladins.

Don't use paladins? How do you then lay on hands?!?!?!?!

I find him a good substitute for priests, as he can do some healing and give Protections of Evil. And he's handy in combat.

I'm traveling light in my present game - only my own character; a multi fighter-thief-mage, and Ajantis in my party. I don't have the cohones to totally solo, yet...

Moleman · Post by **Moleman** » Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:38 pm

Originally posted by Sailor Saturn

Who's Ajantis?

Ajantis is a totallly screwball paladin who serves Order of the Most Radient Heart. He keeps babbling about Helm all the time, which is quite annoying, but I keep him still.

BTW from Ajantis' bio you can find 1st references of Keldorn, a mighty NPC paladin in BG2....

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 12:25 am

Originally posted by Moleman
Don't use paladins? How do you then lay on hands?!?!?!?!

I find him a good substitute for priests, as he can do some healing and give Protections of Evil. And he's handy in combat.

I'm traveling light in my present game - only my own character; a multi fighter-thief-mage, and Ajantis in my party. I don't have the cohones to totally solo, yet...

I don't need a Paladin's lay on hands or protection from evil. I have Viconia with all her Clerical spells.

I haven't gone solo in BG1 yet, but I have gone solo through IWD.

I just started a game this morning. I've currently got me, a True Neutral Human Fighter(to become a Kensai/Mage in BG2), and Imoen(not to be dualed to mage). I killed Montaron and Xzar when I came across them. Now I'm on my way to Friendly Arm Inn. I plan on picking up Viconia, Minsc, and Dynaheir. Not sure if I'll grab anyone else.

Sailor Saturn · Post by **Sailor Saturn** » Tue Mar 05, 2002 12:27 am

Originally posted by Moleman
Ajantis is a totallly screwball paladin who serves Order of the Most Radient Heart. He keeps babbling about Helm all the time, which is quite annoying, but I keep him still.

BTW from Ajantis' bio you can find 1st references of Keldorn, a mighty NPC paladin in BG2....

Paladins are annoying. I met Keldorn in BG2, but he didnt' get to join my party either.

I also dumped Anomen soon after he became Sir Anomen because he became more annoying than a Paladin.