I Just Wanna Have Some Kicks I Just Wanna Get Some Chicks

frogus23 · Post by **frogus23** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 5:04 pm

Gwally recently said:[QUOTE=Gwalchmai]I think Dark Raven should stop worrying about girlfriends altogether, whether in monogamous or polygamous relationships. Instead he should worry about more important things like schoolwork, family, and his good friendships that he needs to cultivate now for the rest of his life. At 17, my opinion is that girlfriends come and go, and the less he frets about them now, the more enjoyable those relationships will be. Wait for additional maturity before really getting serious; say another 8 to 10 years.

Note, my feelings come from both being a father now, and having a youth spent in wild self-flagellation over girls and relationships, which I now regret as time miss-spent.

[/QUOTE]Chanak backed him up to an extent -but anyway

What's the point of reading War & Peace when you're too old to be affected?
Why go to school right in the time you should be having fun?
Why prepare for a career at the time you're most unsure?
Why go after girls when they're just gonna break your young heart?

Here's the question - How are teenage years well spent?

fable · Post by **fable** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:07 pm

Good question. And I would answer:

They are best spent in any way that you can later derive maximum benefit from 'em. Whether that means reading, or traveling, or partying, or working, it isn't the activity that matters. It's what you do with it, later, that counts. How it contributes to whomever you are, and become.

Luis Antonio · Post by **Luis Antonio** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:22 pm

Frogus, for the first four questions, its all things that you gotta do if you live. I've been killed by my ex fiancée, I prepared to be an eletric technician and finished out being an economist, school is bad but is very good indeed if you think about ways to bring things near you and if you are not less smart or much smarter than your classmates, and man, war is war, if it knocks at your door you gotta answer.

Teenage years are well spent if you dont have more or less problems than you can handle, IMO. Its all a matter of balance, but if your teen age is not as good as you wish, your elder days will for sure be better, just take care of yourself.

And dont do as some fools that give up living (in all ways, not only suicide) and keep on going, aye?

*note- how elder I am, being 23? lol *

frogus23 · Post by **frogus23** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:09 am

[QUOTE=fable]Good question. And I would answer:

They are best spent in any way that you can later derive maximum benefit from 'em. Whether that means reading, or traveling, or partying, or working, it isn't the activity that matters. It's what you do with it, later, that counts. How it contributes to whomever you are, and become.[/QUOTE]So what you're saying is 'teenage years well spent are years, when you're a teenager, that you spend well'?

What did you spend your days as a youth in ancient Babylon doing?

fable · Post by **fable** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:16 am

[QUOTE=frogus23]So what you're saying is 'teenage years well spent are years, when you're a teenager, that you spend well'?

I would say that it's not so much how you spend those years, but how you learn from them, that matters. Of course, extremes should be avoiided: all party-hearty, or all work and no play, doesn't do anybody any good.

What did you spend your days as a youth in ancient Babylon doing?

Being physically and verbally abused by my family and classmates, constantly out of it thanks to asthma medications that let me live, and dearly hoping there was some pathway out of hell. Eventually, I made one, and used it.

Paranitis · Post by **Paranitis** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:20 am

Man..my teenage years sucked..didn't get much better since then..I am 22 now btw.

Had 4 or 5 relationships that in hindsight were meaningless.

Had 3 or 4 jobs that in hindsight were completely worthless.

Tried joining the army twice, first was denied by failing a personality test.
Second time I was told I could have ANY job I wanted based on an intelligence test I took, but I was denied having almost every job because I got out of school early by testing my way out. I guess being smarter than everyone you know and needing to get out of the repeatitiveness of highschool is bad for the army or something.

SINCE I stopped being a teenager though:

Found out I was squinting for my whole life because I needed glasses (which also can lead to why I wasn't that great at paying attention during school).

Found out I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome and Social Anxiety Disorder (which shows why I couldn't take being in crowds and that when I got nervous I had to run to the bathroom constantly).

BUT I started playing D&D..which lead me to an interest in reading (Dragonlance novels so far).

I am still waiting for SOMETHING really good to happen in my life..I am philosophically an optomist, but I am a practicing pessimist.

Gwalchmai · Post by **Gwalchmai** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:19 am

LMAO @Frogus: I have often thought that the hormone-raging years of youth are the absolute worst time to try to be truly educated, make a career choice, and find a life-long mate!

Galuf the Dwarf · Post by **Galuf the Dwarf** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:54 am

The testament of a young socialite.

Sure, I'm 20, but at times it definitely feels like my teenage years were almost so long ago now.

I definitely could have spent them better. Still, where as fable experiened hell from home, I found it at school. My peers left me VERY insecure, and I was forced to chastise myself to stay out of trouble. I hardly went out anywhere, and spent hours a day either doing homework or playing video games. But still, I got grades that often made my more popular peers a bit jealous. Only in the past year have I been truly recovering from such a state of painful isolation. I have found the outside world a bit more inviting, and now I find myself a little more reluctant to be home.

In short, my younger years could have been spent a little better, but I at least gave myself a bedrock for opportunity.

Oh, and the only time I ever had a girlfriend was when I was 17 (first one lasted 4 weeks, the second about 5 months), mainly because of the decline of applicable women. So many are tied down in my area, and I am to both college and my job. Also, the ones that are available don't seem to be very compatible with me.

ObsidianReturns · Post by **ObsidianReturns** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:56 am

If your particularly bright, the army may not be the place for you.

I thank the lord everyday I'm just smart enough to keep my mouth shut.
Most of time. Two charges of insubordination are pending....
They deserved it.

Regardless, teen years are great, IMO it's as a teen that you decide where you are taking your life, its like picking a class.
The bad part is, if you don't like your rolls, your stuck with them.
Time to admit I'm never gonna have strength 18:00. Just not gonna happen.

arno_v · Post by **arno_v** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 3:04 pm

I am also a teenager (17), I really don't know if I'm wasting my time right now. I try not to work hard at school, I try to work just hard enough to pass my exam. I spent almost al my other time at sports. Rest of the time I just enjoy myself with my computer or with friends.

Some people I know say I waste my time doing sports instead of wasting my braincells in a bar every saterday. I know the life they are leading can be fun, but on the other hand does it make you feel happy when you look back at your youth and you see that the only fun part was being drunk. I enjoy the time a spent sporting. It gives me more satisfaction than anything else.

Maybe the best way of spending your youth is just to have fun and finish school so you can have a nice job when you're a grown-up. Having fun can be different for everybody I gues, some like to play computer games, others like to party and so on. Just what you enjoy...

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:30 am

frogus23 wrote:Why go to school right in the time you should be having fun?

Who says you can't go to school and have fun? (Not necessarily at the same time.)

Why prepare for a career at the time you're most unsure?

Some people do have an idea of what they want to do when they're teenagers - so why not prepare for it? People who don't just tend to do what interests them, and prepare later when they do work out what they want to do - and what interests them will probably have a bearing on that, so I guess everyone is preparing in a way.

Why go after girls when they're just gonna break your young heart?

Because you don't have a choice?

Damn hormones.

I think teenage years are the time when you can make all your mistakes, and then when you emerge into the world as a proper grown-up, you're more prepared for life. Just try and learn from your experiences in a positive way, however miserable they may be.

frogus23 · Post by **frogus23** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:21 am

[QUOTE=Georgi]I think teenage years are the time when you can make all your mistakes[/QUOTE]I'm doing well then

CM · Post by CM » Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:08 am

Well i am 22 and i think i spent my teenage years pretty well. I didnt "experiment" or do "crazy stuff" nor did i break the law or anything like that. I spent my time hanging out with friends and parties almost a daily basis but never crossed a certain line.

Personally i believe one spends their teenage years well, if they can remember them fondly and laugh at the stupidity involved and say they learnt from their mistakes.

fable · Post by **fable** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:32 am

[QUOTE=frogus23]I'm doing well then

[/QUOTE]

LOL!

It's amazing how many different mistakes one can make in life. I'm in my fifties, and I've yet to exhaust one-tenth of 'em. Too bad I didn't keep tabs when I started out; might've made a good book.

Georgi · Post by **Georgi** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:21 am

[QUOTE=frogus23]I'm doing well then[/QUOTE]

LOL

Personally I have been much happier and things seem to have been getting better since the end of my teenage years. I was incredibly shy then, and I am a lot less shy now - I think I would enjoy my teenage years more now, but then if I hadn't gone through all those experiences then, I wouldn't be the person I am now, would I?

frogus23 · Post by **frogus23** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:48 am

[QUOTE=CM]Well i am 22 and i think i spent my teenage years pretty well. I didnt "experiment" or do "crazy stuff" nor did i break the law or anything like that. I spent my time hanging out with friends and parties almost a daily basis but never crossed a certain line.

Personally i believe one spends their teenage years well, if they can remember them fondly and laugh at the stupidity involved and say they learnt from their mistakes.[/QUOTE]I am sticking to the view that your teenhood is the time to find out where that certain line lies...

C Elegans · Post by **C Elegans** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:06 am

When you are young, the most important thing is to get yourself a decent frame of reference. This may sound boring, but it is not if done in a smart manner.

The young mind is usually more plastic and impressionable than the old mind. As people get older, they tend to interpret the world according to their already existing frame of reference. Confirmation bias, selection bias, cognitive dissonace and other social psychology terms, describe and demonstrate very well how man is captured in his own pre-knowledge and prejudice. Therefore, it is of utter importance to widen your frame of reference as much as possible when you are young.

Travel to other cultures, socialise with people who are very different from you, do things out of the ordinary and expected. Also take in the wisdom and knowledge from previous generations - read literature and philosophy, learn science and art. Develop your social skills, it's important to get yourself used to communicate with people outside your own little sheltered corner of the world. Have many relationships of all sorts, you can only learn about humans by being with humans.

Study if you want to, but it is actually not the most important unless you live in a society where you must be very young when you enter the job market (as Giles and I discussed in my education thread). Undeveloped social skills and lack of understanding of the world is much more difficult to compensate for later, than the content of univeristy courses.